The correction method determines the amount of correction, The amount of squirt is the same either way.Are you saying regardless of FHE or BHE you still get the same amount of squirt
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The correction method determines the amount of correction, The amount of squirt is the same either way.Are you saying regardless of FHE or BHE you still get the same amount of squirt
Is this from personal experience or what you think, heard or the 2D drawing is telling you.The correction method determines the amount of correction, The amount of squirt is the same either way.
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I've watched these and there's some good information and live examples. But I wouldn't call it the "FINAL WORD" on what you were teaching and trying to get across. Does that mean it shouldn't be watched? No, that's not what I'm saying. There are other videos out there that go into greater depth and are more accurate in the description.For those interested in the topics in this thread, the videos, illustrations, articles, and other info on the following resource pages might be of interest:
The correction method determines the amount of correction, The amount of squirt is the same either way.
It's simple common sense... so your unfamiliarity with it is understandable.Is this from personal experience or what you think, heard or the 2D drawing is telling you.
What I actually wrote was:You want to post videos defining FHE/BHE?
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pj <- how about videos defining "define"?
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It's beyond beginners, I have students with leisure income, retired, who've played 40 or 50 years or more, and card APA 6 or even higher, but continue to struggle with english over a distance.Define "beginner"...
I think anyone that has reached the point of learning the skill of applying and compensating horizontal English. Needs to be taught and/or experiment with it effects on the CB over varying distances. The tip adjustment method doesn't change what the CB does. Squirt is still squirt. Resulting swerve is still swerve.
C-A is through centerball, so no english, swerve or squirt is produced.Say, for example, we shoot through C-A or B-D instead, still getting the same amounts of english, swerve and squirt
"If all else is the same, the initial direction of CB travel is different due to tip's angle of approach".C-A is through centerball, so no english, swerve or squirt is produced.
Do you play pool?
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...we shoot through C-A or B-D instead, still getting the same amounts of english, swerve and squirt
C-A is through centerball, so no english, swerve or squirt is produced.
Do you play pool?
So you don't play pool or speak English - but you wanna do dueling videos."If all else is the same, the initial direction of CB travel is different due to tip's angle of approach".
Not dueling videos, collaborative videos, we choose some shots and we perform them.So you don't play pool or speak English - but you wanna do dueling videos.
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You seem to have a short memory. No interest in lessons or diagrams or videos with you.But your comments are self-refuting. You wrote:
"Not really a good example double o. The margin of error is so large you can hit this all kinds of ways and get there."
Meaning you think it's easy to shoot with BHE, so it is a good example. I've never claimed BHE disobeys physics and yields more english, less deflection, etc. rather, for most if not all players, it can make long-distance plays with english go well.
But as we saw on your recent posts in this thread, your strong preference is to lie and argue, not really learning anything. Additionally, you like to say horrible things about people with more integrity.
So what is your argument here? That the diagram I posted was too easy to make with BHE and I should make a harder shot with it? Why, that's what I've just proposed to PJ, so I'll propose the same to you, since you've made these since age 11, no problem:
Let's select some english position plays with varying degrees of difficulty, then we post two videos, you shooting them with FHE, I will shoot them with both FHE and BHE.
I know the limits and advantages of both methods will be objectively presented that way.
But we already know your answer:
"I'm not a diagram guy nor a video guy, just a lowly pool player."
You are behaving in a lowly way, yes. But I believe you can change.
Yet I also believe you play poorly, the real reason you won't make a video. So if it's a matter of poverty, I will pay for your table time to make the video.
How about it?
I remember that you don't answer questions. Two that are immediate:You seem to have a short memory. No interest in lessons or diagrams or videos with you.
I try to deal in logic and proven principles about the way pool balls work not fantasies which you revel in.
As far as BHE and/or FHE goes I don't use them and never will. Outside certain parameters they're pretty much worthless.
Anybody who knows what they're talking about can describe FHE/BHE clearly in a couple of sentences - no video needed. It ain't rocket surgery....surely videos from us both would show who is correct.
BHE/FHE are specific methods of squirt correction (among others), not just labels for "more or less" squirt correction.If you use neither BHE or FHE, how do you add english to your shots?
But PJ, you don't know what you're talking about. Dr. Dave agrees:Anybody who knows what they're talking about can describe FHE/BHE clearly in a couple of sentences - no video needed. It ain't rocket surgery.
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By "add english", I was asking what method Sparkle uses to aim and hit off the vertical axis of the CB, and whether he uses his front hand, back hand, or something else to do so, since he claims to use neither:BHE/FHE are specific methods of squirt correction (among others), not just labels for "more or less" squirt correction.
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Dr. Dave agrees:
There actually are several potential benefits of a swoop/swipe stroke for the people who can execute the technique accurately and consistently:
- A swoop stroke allows one to aim and hit closer to the center of the CB, to apply sidespin. This effect doesn’t allow one to put more spin on the CB than is possible with a straight stroke, nor does it change the effective miscue limit (or the maximum amount of spin possible), but it does allow one to hit the CB with less “apparent” tip offset.
- The sideways swiping motion (especially if it is fast in comparison to the forward speed of the cue) helps provide slightly more squirt (cue ball deflection) aim compensation than is provided by a pre-stroke BHE pivot. And if one uses a non-LD-shaft (especially with a long bridge length), this slightly extra squirt compensation might be helpful (assuming they haven’t already adjusted their aim and alignment to intuitively compensate for squirt, swerve, and throw, as most pros and top players do).
- A swoop stroke can allow the cue to be aligned closer to the direction one wants the CB to head (assuming the aim compensation provide by the swooping motion is appropriate for the amount of squirt, swerve, and throw anticipated for the given shot). This could make it easier for some people to visualize the line of the shot and one’s aim and cue alignment. Without a swoop, to compensate for squirt, the cue alignment at address would be off center and in general not in-line with the desired direction of CB motion. Most top players can aim and align the cue in this fashion intuitively, and it is comfortable. However, some people find the off-center and off-line pre-stroke cue alignment to be disconcerting.
- A swoop stroke allows one to apply BHE squirt correction during the stroke instead of before the stroke. BHE before the stroke can be awkward, uncomfortable and unnatural to some people. Some, while aiming and aligning a shot, don’t like seeing the cue pointing in a different direction than they want the CB to head. Also, some people don’t like to change their stance (which can occur with a pre-stroke BHE pivot) and cue alignment after being down on a shot.