Bill Incordona vs John Hager $10000

[Jack Kompan]

Typest I am not

Sorry folks. Yes it was most certainly 120 to 117.

Earsl's late match unraveling is easy to uncerstand. The Color of Money was staged at Ridgeway's bar in Hong Kong, a very small place. After Efren's posse, the local staff, Manili camera crew and Earl, there was room for only 35 invited guests.

CofM was not a commercial venture, it was an Ego trip sponsored by owner and professional gambler Robert Moore. The atmosphere was up close and personal. You could touch the table, smell the sweat and whispers were like thunderclaps.

When the match started the small crowd evenly split, showed even sportsmanship and simply wanted to see what we all believed would be the greatest nine-ball match ever held up to that time. As tne match ran on the worm turned.

Without going into details, every bad conduct story you have ever heard about Earl either originated or was duplicated in Hong Kong. By night three Earl was the most disliked pool player you can imagine. Efren was the house favorite to a man. 25 hecklers in Madison Square Garden can be ignored. The same crowd in a phone booth can tear a spirit down.

By the end of Efren's come back and the end of the match Earl must have felt like he hadn't a friend in the world. He certainly had none in Ridgeway's.

Here is a little known fact. Prior to the match, at the players meeting, Rober Moore let the players decide on the length of the match. Efren said 100 would be enough. Being younger, in better shape and a nonsmoker, Earl felt he would have the advantage in a marathon. He insisted on the goal line being set at 120.

Had Earl lost that argument he would have trounced Efren in what would have been one of his more celebrated victories ever. Who was it that first said "beware of what you wish for, you just might get it?"

I'm sure there are more typos. Hope everyone can handle it...jack

 

[JAM]

Speaking of Earl

I'm sure the "regular" readers of this forum have seen this video clip before, but check it out once more and see what kind of audience the American pro players have to endure when on European soil.

During the 2006 Mosconi Cup, which took place at Rotterdam, Netherlands, December 7-10, 2006, the audience was loud, cheering, screaming, blowing horns, and pounding drums like barbarians when rooting for Team Europe. The noise was so intense that Referee Michaela Tabb warned spectators they could be thrown out of the arena if they persisted

Here's a world championship match between Earl Strickland and Nick Van den Berg performing before a packed house of European barbarians: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyLcGY4twOE

JAM

 

[freddy the beard]

Cardone and Ike

I left Red Shoes at about 11pm last night. Billy was four games down and playing horribly. I couldnt watch anymore. The day started with Billy 3 games ahead. He won the first game and that made him up 4. Ike won the next 8 games in a row! They see-sawed after that, up until 11, when I left. I never seen Billy play that bad. Ever. Ike out shot him -- Billy missed many balls, out-broke him, out-banked him -- by a large margin, ran more balls when he got a shot, out-lagged and out-moved him. I'll get the final tally later, but I'm sure my $500 is by now in Ike's pocket. Billy made many mistakes, and when he got a shot he couldnt run any balls.

the Beard

 

[cuetechasaurus]

I'm sure the "regular" readers of this forum have seen this video clip before, but check it out once more and see what kind of audience the American pro players have to endure when on European soil.

During the 2006 Mosconi Cup, which took place at Rotterdam, Netherlands, December 7-10, 2006, the audience was loud, cheering, screaming, blowing horns, and pounding drums like barbarians when rooting for Team Europe. The noise was so intense that Referee Michaela Tabb warned spectators they could be thrown out of the arena if they persisted

Here's a world championship match between Earl Strickland and Nick Van den Berg performing before a packed house of European barbarians: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyLcGY4twOE

JAM

LOL @ "European Barbarians" ROFL I'm sure they are just having fun. ROFL LMAO

 

[StevenPWaldon]

JAM, how can you criticize the Euros for rooting for their own? Isn't that what you're known best for yourself?

I'm sure the "regular" readers of this forum have seen this video clip before, but check it out once more and see what kind of audience the American pro players have to endure when on European soil.

During the 2006 Mosconi Cup, which took place at Rotterdam, Netherlands, December 7-10, 2006, the audience was loud, cheering, screaming, blowing horns, and pounding drums like barbarians when rooting for Team Europe. The noise was so intense that Referee Michaela Tabb warned spectators they could be thrown out of the arena if they persisted

Here's a world championship match between Earl Strickland and Nick Van den Berg performing before a packed house of European barbarians: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyLcGY4twOE

JAM

 

[Black-Balled]

JAM, how can you criticize the Euros for rooting for their own? Isn't that what you're known best for yourself?

You can't honestly think that analogy fits. A mob vs. a respectful, loyal individual? I think you farted with your keyboard.

 

[cuetechasaurus]

Sorry folks. Yes it was most certainly 120 to 117.

Earsl's late match unraveling is easy to uncerstand. The Color of Money was staged at Ridgeway's bar in Hong Kong, a very small place. After Efren's posse, the local staff, Manili camera crew and Earl, there was room for only 35 invited guests.

CofM was not a commercial venture, it was an Ego trip sponsored by owner and professional gambler Robert Moore. The atmosphere was up close and personal. You could touch the table, smell the sweat and whispers were like thunderclaps.

When the match started the small crowd evenly split, showed even sportsmanship and simply wanted to see what we all believed would be the greatest nine-ball match ever held up to that time. As tne match ran on the worm turned.

Without going into details, every bad conduct story you have ever heard about Earl either originated or was duplicated in Hong Kong. By night three Earl was the most disliked pool player you can imagine. Efren was the house favorite to a man. 25 hecklers in Madison Square Garden can be ignored. The same crowd in a phone booth can tear a spirit down.

By the end of Efren's come back and the end of the match Earl must have felt like he hadn't a friend in the world. He certainly had none in Ridgeway's.

Here is a little known fact. Prior to the match, at the players meeting, Rober Moore let the players decide on the length of the match. Efren said 100 would be enough. Being younger, in better shape and a nonsmoker, Earl felt he would have the advantage in a marathon. He insisted on the goal line being set at 120.

Had Earl lost that argument he would have trounced Efren in what would have been one of his more celebrated victories ever. Who was it that first said "beware of what you wish for, you just might get it?"

I'm sure there are more typos. Hope everyone can handle it...jack

Not too long after TCOM's conclusion, Robert Moore committed suicide. Do you have any info on what might have caused that? I was shocked when I found that out.

 

[JAM]

JAM, how can you criticize the Euros for rooting for their own? Isn't that what you're known best for yourself?

I think it is GREAT to root for the home team. That's what makes world competitions great, people wanting to see their countrymen do well.

However, for the audience members to be rooting for Team Europe by SCREAMING, beating on drums like Native Americans, blowing air horns like it's New Year's Eve during a competition like the Mosconi Cup, yes, StevenPWaldon, they look very much like barbarians in my eyes.

I think there is a big difference between rooting for the home team and making so much noise in the audience that it is difficult for the competitors to hear themselves think, much less perform in the pit.

JAM

 

[ironman]

You can't honestly think that analogy fits. A mob vs. a respectful, loyal individual? I think you farted with your keyboard.

LMAO!!!!!!!!

 

[ironman]

I left Red Shoes at about 11pm last night. Billy was four games down and playing horribly. I couldnt watch anymore. The day started with Billy 3 games ahead. He won the first game and that made him up 4. Ike won the next 8 games in a row! They see-sawed after that, up until 11, when I left. I never seen Billy play that bad. Ever. Ike out shot him -- Billy missed many balls, out-broke him, out-banked him -- by a large margin, ran more balls when he got a shot, out-lagged and out-moved him. I'll get the final tally later, but I'm sure my $500 is by now in Ike's pocket. Billy made many mistakes, and when he got a shot he couldnt run any balls.

the Beard

Wow, What a strange turn. In the past few weeks Billy had been shooting his way out of many spots. Even Wade had comented that Billy was shooting at balls he hadn't made in years and years. Oh well, it is a funny game and one mistake by either can turn amatch totally around.

I guess we just wait for the outcome. Good luck Freddy. I know $500 is no fortune, but, it doesn't grow on trees either.

 

[1 Pocket Ghost]

One Pocket Ghost, Admire that damn Chicago style game - call me if you and I can get together out West.

I just want a chance to get my money back.....

One Pocket Ghost,

You know you can always trust my action. Take 9-7 and breaks for $100..

_Ron

Ron,
C'mon now, I'm just a Ghost, with limited powers - to give you 9-7 and the breaks, I'd have to be the Devil !

 

[StevenPWaldon]

I guess everyone's human. Seems like a pretty big swing. Hope Billy can come back from being down.

Wow, What a strange turn. In the past few weeks Billy had been shooting his way out of many spots. Even Wade had comented that Billy was shooting at balls he hadn't made in years and years. Oh well, it is a funny game and one mistake by either can turn amatch totally around.

I guess we just wait for the outcome. Good luck Freddy. I know $500 is no fortune, but, it doesn't grow on trees either.

 

[ironman]

I guess everyone's human. Seems like a pretty big swing. Hope Billy can come back from being down.

When it comes to pool and gambling, there are no absolutes. Anything can and has happened. I've missed balls over the years that appeared harder to miss than to make.

 

[freddy the beard]

It's over

When it comes to pool and gambling, there are no absolutes. Anything can and has happened. I've missed balls over the years that appeared harder to miss than to make.

It's over. I got a call that said Billy lost the seven ahead. It would have taken a miracle for him to come back from the state he was in.

the Beard

 

[ironman]

It's over. I got a call that said Billy lost the seven ahead. It would have taken a miracle for him to come back from the state he was in.

the Beard

I'm surprised he only played one set to be honest, but sometimes it is just over. Well, nobody wins em all and it ain't like Ike can't play.

Maybe some of these guys will come to Dallas.

Thanks a lot for the update.

 

[Flex]

I'm sure the "regular" readers of this forum have seen this video clip before, but check it out once more and see what kind of audience the American pro players have to endure when on European soil.

During the 2006 Mosconi Cup, which took place at Rotterdam, Netherlands, December 7-10, 2006, the audience was loud, cheering, screaming, blowing horns, and pounding drums like barbarians when rooting for Team Europe. The noise was so intense that Referee Michaela Tabb warned spectators they could be thrown out of the arena if they persisted

Here's a world championship match between Earl Strickland and Nick Van den Berg performing before a packed house of European barbarians: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyLcGY4twOE

JAM

Sure was a noisy scene; no doubt about it.

Maybe we need a bit of that sort of enthusiasm on this side of the pond if pool is to become popular again. Tougher for the players? Of course, but a cheering crowd is a wonderful spectacle to behold.

Flex

 

[playonepocket]

I left Red Shoes at about 4 a.m.'ish this morning.

The match ended at about a quarter to three.

I watched the match both days. By the end of it, it seemed that Billy was letting his frustration get the best of him. He wasn't concentrating like he was on the first day.

Ike started to play better on day two, was moving really well, and squeezing Billy fairly hard.

There was a couple up there with a cam corder rolling on a tripod for most of the match. I don't know who they were or what their intentions with the photage were. But it's out there somewhere.

 

[Takumi4G63]

Here is a little known fact. Prior to the match, at the players meeting, Rober Moore let the players decide on the length of the match. Efren said 100 would be enough. Being younger, in better shape and a nonsmoker, Earl felt he would have the advantage in a marathon. He insisted on the goal line being set at 120.

Had Earl lost that argument he would have trounced Efren in what would have been one of his more celebrated victories ever. Who was it that first said "beware of what you wish for, you just might get it?"

Well any pool player should know that when you're talking about "had the match been such-and-such length" it's very speculative. You surely don't know that Earl would have trounced Efren to 100, because both players were aiming for 120. The length of the match will affect the mental aspect of the game and possibly how aggressive a player plays. The same goes for "if they had played an ahead set". Just a different mentality.

 

[freddy the beard]

Documentary

I left Red Shoes at about 4 a.m.'ish this morning.

The match ended at about a quarter to three.

I watched the match both days. By the end of it, it seemed that Billy was letting his frustration get the best of him. He wasn't concentrating like he was on the first day.

Ike started to play better on day two, was moving really well, and squeezing Billy fairly hard.

There was a couple up there with a cam corder rolling on a tripod for most of the match. I don't know who they were or what their intentions with the photage were. But it's out there somewhere.

That was a local girl, Angel Levine, who is shooting a long pool documentary.

the Beard

 

[freddy the beard]

BCA Olympics in Louisville in November

Greg Sullivan of Diamond Billiards and the Derby City Classic, called me yesterday and asked me if I would help him to put some big money matches together to be played at the Louisville tourney in Nov. While the tourney is not Greg's but Mark Griffin's, Greg would like Mark's tourney to develop into another DCC event with 24 hour action. The first target match is to put Billy Incardona and Ike Runnels together to play for high stakes again in Derby City in Nov. Greg wants me to convince Ike's backers to take their cheese down to Louisville. Greg has also offered to take a several K piece of the action. They may video and put the match or matches on the internet. The BCA Olympics is going to feature all the games, banks, 1pkt, 14.1, and 8,9 and 10 ball on the bar and big table. I'll see you all there.

the Beard