yea. whatever advantages are gained by conceding appear to be nominal, disadvantages could be many..
In MMA and Boxing a stoppage is different from conceding a rack (in my opinion).
Chess is not a sport (rotation pool is).
and the other stuff apples and oranges...
I think one of the reasons for not allowing concession is to take away a players ability to shark the other.What's wrong with conceding? It shows respect to your opponent and doesn't waste anyone's time delaying the inevitable. For comparison, chess players almost always resign when their opponent gets a dominant position. This is understood and accepted by all without any issues.
Please. Pool is barely a sport. Chess?? No. Not even close.Chess is a sport in a lot of countries. It is just English definition doesn't recognize it.
Concessions particularly with still numerous balls on the table is also a bit of an issue when you have a player auction / Calcutta and someone else may have purchased all or part of that player. It’s not really fair to that investor, but I certainly do feel that when you buy any or all of a player in the Calcutta, that’s the risk you take.Despite the numerous well considered posts, I find this thread to be more about the theoretical than the practical. Let's face it, BJ just barely crossed the line here. I met him this year for the first time at the US Open 9-ball and can vouch that he's a quality guy, not to mention a rock-solid pool player.
Some of us are OK with concessions and others are not, and that's OK. Whether concessions are to be permitted is something that needs to be covered in the player's meeting, with any penalties of pertinence identified.
I did see Earl quit a match once due to slow play by the opponent but when he starts one stroking shots don't assume he is "rattled". I've seen him come from behind to beat world class players when he went into his "rattled" act.I just watched the match. BJ got very frustrated early in the match, then just conceded Shaun each of the last 4 games with still a number of balls left on the table in each rack, including after what appeared to be intentionally launching the cue ball off the table for the 2nd break in a row - alternate breaks.
I agree with the OP - a disgraceful performance by BJ in regards to not handling his emotions, although he did at least appear to keep his mouth shut, unlike Earl does when he gets rattled.
This is certainly not the first time this has happened with BJ - he has a reputation of being a poor loser.
Chess is recognized as a sport.Please. Pool is barely a sport. Chess?? No. Not even close.
People need to stop calling all of their hobbies “sports”.Chess is recognized as a sport.
The International Olympic Committee has recognized chess as a sport. While this acknowledgement falls shy of recognition as an "Olympic Sport" which would merit inclusion in the Games, it is an acknowledgement of the sport-like properties inherent in chess.
****That is not my answer, only what I found on the interweb.
No shame in that. They aren't feeling it and time to quit. To continue playing after the start of that behavior is wrong for the game in many ways.
Agree 100%. I came to play pool and if I win so be it. Having balls swept off the table and being awarded a win is not fulfilling. It's worse than a 9 ball break. And all I learned from it is that you're a baby.Mike Zuglan's rule should be the standard....you concede...you lose the next game too.
If I paid my tournament entry just like everybody else....I want to shoot when its my turn.
Why should my arrogant opponent stop me from taking my turn?
I've seen Earl do this to over matched opponents...and its a disgrace.
I'm not talking about conceding a straight in 9 ball. I'm referring to sweeping away multiple balls.
I've seen BJ play on other streams and he always seemed respectful. This was ridiculous.
Hopefully he apologized to everyone that was affected. That was bullshit and childish.
Possibly, I am not the one who categorized chess a sport but where do you draw the line? My hobby/sport is auto racing, I have seen people I know leave the track in an ambulance and some who have died participating in their "hobby". I believe it was Hemmingway who said:People need to stop calling all of their hobbies “sports”.
Riding is a sport.Possibly, I am not the one who categorized chess a sport but where do you draw the line? My hobby/sport is auto racing, I have seen people I know leave the track in an ambulance and some who have died participating in their "hobby". I believe it was Hemmingway who said:
“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”
That's a great question! Everyone basically has to draw their own line, and its a fun exercise. When someone tells me what criteria they use to define a "sport", it's pretty easy to come up with an example that meets their criteria, but they DO NOT consider a sport. Here are a few examples off the top of my head:Possibly, I am not the one who categorized chess a sport but where do you draw the line? My hobby/sport is auto racing, I have seen people I know leave the track in an ambulance and some who have died participating in their "hobby". I believe it was Hemmingway who said:
“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”
Like anyone gives a flying fk what ioc says. The shit they call sports these days is a joke. I haven't watched any olympic nonsense in yrs.Chess is recognized as a sport.
The International Olympic Committee has recognized chess as a sport. While this acknowledgement falls shy of recognition as an "Olympic Sport" which would merit inclusion in the Games, it is an acknowledgement of the sport-like properties inherent in chess.
****That is not my answer, only what I found on the interweb.