Black Pool Players Matter

I think HawaiianEye meant James "Texas Blood" Brown. I will dig out Freddy’s Encyclopaedia and post up a pic. There was also a little story relayed by Freddy about him


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That is correct! Still alive, living in Oakland. One of the best Bank Pool players of his era. He was the first guy to give me 5-4 in short rack Banks and beat me (maybe he came a few games ahead after playing for hours). He once hustled King Kong, one of the top Hispanic bar table players, on the small table and ended up beating him and his backers for 15K! James could play all games! He played an epic match with Jimmy Fusco in the finals of the Dayton tourney one year (Banks division). Jimmy finally beat him and afterward he looked at me and said, "Damn, that guy can play!"
 
"Strawberry" from DC gave tough action to many who came through the DMV. An old school "mover" type of guy in One Pocket!
 
I saw an interview with an older black guy who is now in a wheelchair in California, he said "You ever heard of Cole Dickson? The interviewer said "Yes", the older guy said "He ain't NEVER beat me" LOL sent him back broke every chance I got" LOL
 
I saw an interview with an older black guy who is now in a wheelchair in California, he said "You ever heard of Cole Dickson? The interviewer said "Yes", the older guy said "He ain't NEVER beat me" LOL sent him back broke every chance I got" LOL
Can you find that interview on YouTube? Or someplace else? I’ve heard of that interview but I’ve never seen it.
 
I interpret the assertion that Cisero was the only champion as meaning the only world champion, which I believe is accurate.

Another fantastic player of color not yet given his due in this thread is Cliff Joyner, a legendary one-pocket player I always enjoyed watching.
SJM,

I am asking you this, because so often you share information and anecdotes that the average guy doesn't know...especially about older 14.1 players. Do you know Cicero Murphy's high run? I was once told that "pro" players viewed a run of 300 as sort-of an accomplishment. Is Cicero Murphy a 100-ball runner, 200, 300?

I don't really have a sense of how great he was?

kollegedave
 
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I interpret the assertion that Cisero was the only champion as meaning the only world champion, which I believe is accurate.

Another fantastic player of color not yet given his due in this thread is Cliff Joyner, a legendary one-pocket player I always enjoyed watching.
I was lucky to spend a summer watching Cliff Joyner during his prime. He did things I had never seen any other player do. His "feats of strength" might be more common today, as I think the standard of play has risen (partly because of him).

He had an unbelievable ability to get position on balls up-table near the short rail, pocket them straight in his hole (without banking them) and then play position on other balls up there. This is one of the reasons he could give such crazy spots. I watched him give good players 14-6 and he would just rain 14-ball runs.

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That is correct! Still alive, living in Oakland. One of the best Bank Pool players of his era. He was the first guy to give me 5-4 in short rack Banks and beat me (maybe he came a few games ahead after playing for hours). He once hustled King Kong, one of the top Hispanic bar table players, on the small table and ended up beating him and his backers for 15K! James could play all games! He played an epic match with Jimmy Fusco in the finals of the Dayton tourney one year (Banks division). Jimmy finally beat him and afterward he looked at me and said, "Damn, that guy can play!"
Jay, 'Blood' hung around Chicago in 70,71. The only player that talked 'faster' then James was, 'Alphonso' from the Southside of Chi-town.

He did play all games well, even tried a little 3C with me, no need to speak on how that worked out for him! He made money while there, Louie Roberts was around at the same time, they never played each other. Blood loved to chase the 'Ladies' in the Windy City.

Jay, a funny story you can appreciate about, 'Blood and Ronnie Allen' years later. I was Manager of Hollywood Billiards from 87-90 for Arnie, Seymore and George Aronek.

Smitty, the very good snooker player and I became very good friends.

Every day during the week about 10 am, Smitty would come in and have a cup of coffee, leave in 15-20 mins.

After about 2 weeks of this behavior, I asked, "Where do you go every day from here"? Smitty said, "To the golf course, I gamble High with the Orientals." And He said, "I heard you play also!" Smitty invited me to play with his group and I became a regular.

After playing a couple of months, I was making Big$ playing a few days a week.

Somehow or other, Blood and Ronnie found out I had a 'Honey Hole'!

So, one morning I'm walking to the putting green and who do I see practicing but, Blood!

I exclaim, "What are you doing here?" NO sooner does he start to answer, Who comes bopping out from the clubhouse but Ronnie! Witha 'six-pack' under each arm. I yelp, "WTF" is this an ambush?"

They wanted to muscle in on my action, it was a firm NO! But I said, "You guys can play me!"

They had a $1,000.00 between them, So, we're going to play $500 a side. I gave Blood 2 a side and Ronnie 4!

Ronnie wins the flip to tee off first. Now listen, it was an unusually cloudy day in LA, So, Ronnie pulls out the Driver, and is taking a couple of practice swings, The 'Gleam/Shine' coming from Ronnie club made me snap to attention!

I said, "Woe Ronnie, what's up with that driver?" Well, Ronnie had 'Greased' up All his clubs with Vaseline! For non-golfer's, the ball goes straighter! Ronnie, under protest wiped them down and I preceded to relieve them of their, 'Elusive Spandulicks'!
 
I once met a collector in Chicago who had a painting of the original black professional League . I think it was in New York, It had a likeness of each of the players in a montage and their names underneath I asked him if I could take a picture of it and he said absolutely not. What a shame, I am going to see if he is still alive. It's too bad he wouldn't let me at least have their names, for the future.
 
SJM,

I am asking you this, because so often you share information and anecdotes that the average guy doesn't know...especially about older 14.1 players. Do you know Cicero Murphy's high run? I was once told that "pro" players viewed a run of 300 as sort-of an accomplishment. Is Cicero Murphy a 100-ball runner, 200, 300?

I don't really have a sense of how great he was?

kollegedave
No idea what his high run was, but he was a WORLD 14.1 CHAMPION in the days when you had to get through Irving Crane, Luther Lassiter, Jimmy Caras, Joe Balsis, Jimmy Moore and many other legends to win a world title., and I doubt he would have traded his world championship in for ten different 500 ball runs.

No question Cisero had the pedigree to run more than 300, but greatness is measured in titles, especially world titles. Cisero's BCA Hall of Fame induction was well deserved.
 
No idea what his high run was, but he was a WORLD 14.1 CHAMPION in the days when you had to get through Irving Crane, Luther Lassiter, Jimmy Caras, Joe Balsis, Jimmy Moore and many other legends to win a world title., and I doubt he would have traded his world championship in for ten different 500 ball runs.

No question Cisero had the pedigree to run more than 300, but greatness is measured in titles, especially world titles. Cisero's BCA Hall of Fame induction was well deserved.
Thank you for the insight.

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