Blue Diamond Chalk

eyesjr said:
Ok, Here it is. A thread ONLY for either test results concerning Blue Diamond chalk, or for A players testimony. If You are a full time pool player, etc, hih roller, someone with CREDENTIALS, not a hack, not"Im the best in my pool league"

Everyone here is dying to know if it is superior, and just how much better is it, and here is the place to see. DO NOT CLUTTER THIS THREAD UNLESS YOU ARE A REAL PLAYER. Can you spot an average player the 6 out? Can you give 12-4 to an average local one-pocket player? I want to hear why this chalk is better.

I would also like to know why on the site, it has been worldwide for years upon years, but 'just now discovered in USA.'

Lets not have a 14 page thread with a bunch of hacks here, lets save this for those that know whats going on here. Thank you for your time, JKH

So, who the hell are you, George Bush? Oh wait, let me guess....... Bart Simpson.
 
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deadgearplyr said:
Those that know what's going on huh? You make me laugh. Just to save everyone else the aggravation and just to show you how wrong your line of thinking is shown in your post, I am a full time player in my pool hall. I have been using BD for 3-4 months now. I used what was available on the table which was Master and that was fine for me. I personally would've never though of using something as ridiculous as $4 / cube chalk but I read about it somewhere and just had to see for myself, so I ordered some. It took me about a week or two to really notice any difference in my game. I carry a chalker now and would have it no other way. I won't even touch anything else, and when I pick up a cube of master, I can tell, just by the way it feels going on. It's not a big difference, and it is a subtle difference, and moreover, it is a mental thing more than a physical thing. It is the kind of difference that matters to a person who is able to tell though, and not just on the table, but in life. I'm talking about the kind of player who is able to determine how many tips of english is needed to go one more or one less diamond on a one to three rail position shot. I'm talking about a player who has the sensitivity to lag a long rail kick off his opponent's ball into your opponent's jaws SUCCESSFULLY and with complete confidence. That is also the kind of player who isn't necessarily a top player. I know I'm not, but I'm close enough. How do you compare the hit of a Lambros, supposedly the 'best hitting cue on the planet' as opposed to a Searing or a Southwest? Could you take 10 different people and get the same answer? What about the best cue or even the most expensive cue? That is something that is so totally and ridiculously unimportant, it makes my left ass cheek itch.

IMO, if you can play, you don't need to know about chalk, let alone ask about it 'cause it isn't that big a deal. You can either buy some yourself and form your own opinion, or keep using what you've been using with the confidence that you can still do what you want with that cue ball. If you can't play, the chalk ain't gonna help you one bit. Nothing will, except time spent on the table, and believe me, I know about time spent on the table. Just call Magoo's in Tulsa, OK and ask for the house pro. He'll tell you the one person who spends the most time on the table and even whether or not he would be able to give a worthy opinion of Blue Diamond Chalk to such an experienced player.

You don't have to be an A player to know the difference between the two. It is like the difference between Aquafina or Evian, or like the difference between premium or regular unleaded. Is there a difference? Yes. Is it worth it? It depends on the type of person (not the player) you are. People who pay for premium do so because they can, not because they are a good driver and can sense the difference when they push the pedal. They also do so because they want that level of satisfaction. I myself am the same way. You will have to ask yourself the same question. You will also have to ask yourself who you think you are to exclude the opinions of part of the members of this forum. I personally think that's rude and disrespectful. I am only entertaining you for the sake of all the others who won't respond simply because they feel like it would be a waste of time. I don't feel like it is only in the level of skill that will determine if you will use this chalk or not. The best players in the pool hall probably don't even know what it is. I gave Buddy Hall a cube, and he tried it during his practice session and left it on the table. He does like the pre flag Master, cause he likes what he is familiar with. I believe it is the type of individual like Ralph Souquet who needs his own personal toilet seat covers when he travels, or Tyler Edey who faces his cues and shafts perfectly and the exact same way in his Longoni case. I also believe it is for anyone else who decides to spend the money on it because of the level of satisfaction is gives them knowing that they are getting a quality product. It's kinda like the difference between a Mercedes Benz and a Ford Taurus. I am a 'perfectionist' in everything I do, even in the way I write. You my friend, appear to be the type of person who forms his opinion based on what you read and as well as what other people say, so I assume you will keep on using Master like everyone else since you're too cheap to find out for yourself. That's just my own opinion though.

Why is anything else started in other parts of the world like in the Japan or in Europe? Passion? Ingenuity? Trends have been like that ever since I can remember. Germany and Italy make the most fantastic cars. Japan and Korea make pretty good ones too. What about electronics? I don't think this chalk thing is so different. Are we behind? maybe. We are Americans. We live in a spoiled rotten environment where everything is granted to us instantantously and at the push of a button. Kind of like your expectation for an answer to Blue Diamond from 'someone who would know better' as opposed to a lowly hack. We don't give a rats ass about the 'next level' cause we're too comfortable with the level we're on.

Since you asked, maybe you didn't know that, which means maybe you should take a closer look in the mirror and ask yourself, "Who am I to insult the brotherhood of pool as a whole and respectable members of this forum demanding opinions from only top players and no one else, acting as though I were a top player who was too good to get the opinion of a player lower than myself?"

People ask what is wrong with pool. This is it. Good pool players think they are too good for everyone else. Ask anyone who has been around top players. They think their $hit don't stink when in truth, they're attracting flies the whole time.

Just a suggestion, in this place, I wouldn't talk down to anyone who doesn't deserve it. This is a place for discussion that includes 'ALL MEMBERS' who choose to participate. Including the less skilled.

Tap, tap, tap!
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I would have given my opinion, but I am only 2nd in our league...Mike is first.
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I am not worthy!!!

I also use Bue Diamond but am not worthy enough to give my opinion to the OP.:cool:

Hopefully one day I will have achieved enough in the pool world to come back on and give a review of my favorite chalk (oops, did I give it away).

Until then ... au revoir!:thumbup:

MM
 
Catahula said:
I am with Craig on this...
I might suggest though, that when you do pull your head out of your ass you consider chalking with the residue that you find clinging to your head. Give us a"Pro's" review of that when you are done.
Have a real "Professional's" day.

LMAO!!! :rotflmao1: :rotflmao1:
 
eyesjr said:
Ok, Here it is. A thread ONLY for either test results concerning Blue Diamond chalk, or for A players testimony. If You are a full time pool player, etc, hih roller, someone with CREDENTIALS, not a hack, not"Im the best in my pool league"
I bought some. I use it. I like it. I'll buy more.

Fred <~~~ doesn't give a shit if I can spot the average player the 6-ball.
 
Duh

How about this - Let them substantiate their claims. THEY DONT. Top it off with I haven't seen any hi-speed players use it.
The paper on the cube looks cheap, the ads on the website have that dishonest marketing look, and yet it is expensive as heck.

HOW MUCH DOES CALCIUM CARBONATE REALLY COST???

And to answer your question as to why I dont, I refuse to pay ten times market value to gamble it. SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS ALL I AM ASKING FOR, then they get my money. When I PM'd the distributor, I was told WE DONT HAVE THIS CHALK IT SOLD OUT. Well, whatever. Yeah, everyones buyin it, But Everyone drank JIM JONES KOOL AID TOO. Now do you see my point of view?

I am well aware the chemical composition of traditional chalks, and there are things one could easily do to make it better. Master works for Efren. It worked for Earl.



QUOTE=VonRhett]How about this - spend $10 on a few pieces and decide for yourself??

"THAT WAS EASY"

-von[/QUOTE]
 
And none of the people that use it have said a word about this:
If it really is the ultimate friction chalk, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ITS ON THE CUEBALL AND SKIDS HALF THE BALLS YOU SHOOT. What happens when it gets on the Beloved nineball, and after a perfect rack you throw the nine thick on a cut? YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL ANGLES HERE......

That said, what happens when this space age @#$% CHALK imbeds in the Beautiful 760 on my Gabriels 9ft? All of a sudden, the REPLACE THE BALL shot drill changes - the additional friction will cause the cueball to roll instead of skip spinning backwards until ball contact.

Anyone else believe these points have Validity?
Have the players here played in a tournament environment where the chalk was endorsed, and SEEN REAL WORLD RESULTS, not just"yeah, i sneak my own chalk in...heehee" I mean, that is LIGHT and DAY difference in reality....
 
Az

Specs as in frictional data, a somewhat close to the truth chemical composition, whether it is a fine or rough grade of chalk, whatever a lab could come up with, HEY I JUST MADE THE BEST CHALK IN THE WORLD TOO.. SINCE YOU ARE SO SMART, ILL ONLY CHARGE YOU 800 DOLLARS A BOX. Hows that for specs. Smart Bummm.

DWBOD said:
Specs on chalk :confused: ????, it's about 22mm x 22mm, this thread is definitely headed South. :rolleyes:
 
eyesjr said:
How about this - Let them substantiate their claims. THEY DONT. Top it off with I haven't seen any hi-speed players use it.
The paper on the cube looks cheap, the ads on the website have that dishonest marketing look, and yet it is expensive as heck.

HOW MUCH DOES CALCIUM CARBONATE REALLY COST???

I am well aware the chemical composition of traditional chalks,
I know you're trying to come off as some sort of experienced guru and some smart guy and all, but a couple of things:

Clearly you haven't taken the course in congeniality.

Pool/Billiard chalk isn't calcium carbonate. I know you were just trying to show off your vast knowledge. Nice job. LOL!!!

Fred
 
I use EC (Educational Chalk) for several reasons. It's white (white is my favorite color) and it's easy to acquire. I'm also developing and application device to make it easier to chalk the cue (the pencil shape does present a few problems in this area)... but I can't say any more than that at this time.

YOLO
(just wanted to participate in the best thread of the new year)
 
Adios

Find Jackson Tennessee and come bet something. And bring your Own chalk, mine is inferior.
I currently make my living playing pool, And I would love to either learn from you as you bust me, or simply bust you. Really doesnt matter either way.

This is why AZ is near the bottom of my marked sites - A ??? gets asked, and 3 pages later, no CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE!!! Some like it, others say its just chalk.

My attitude, sir, is the by-product of this nitty site, where ???'s never get answered, people WOOF OVER THE INTERNET AND WONT DO NOTHIN, and all other sorts of things, and YES, My Attitude towards this is to the negative. BUT I TRIED TO START A GOOD THREAD, YALL JUST CANT LT THAT HAPPEN CAN YOU..

MAYBE ILL GET LUCKY AND BAN-HALEN WILL CANCEL ME.

manwon said:
Hello there fellow, I have used this Chalk and there certainly is nothing special about it. It's Chalk, nothing more and nothing less, now I don't know what level you play at, however, how can you call anyone a Hack, when you sir are obviously nothing but NIT. So if I were you I would go pull your head out of your ass:nanner: and learn some manners, because your attitude sucks.

On and by the way, why don't you buy a couple of pieces (if you can afford it;) ) and give all the Hacks on this forum a professional review, if you are capable of doing that, which I doubt!!!!!!!:yeah: :help: :rotflmao1: :rotflmao1:
 
NOt to steal from Von Rhett, but..

eyesjr said:
Find Jackson Tennessee and come bet something. And bring your Own chalk, mine is inferior.
I currently make my living playing pool, And I would love to either learn from you as you bust me, or simply bust you. Really doesnt matter either way.

This is why AZ is near the bottom of my marked sites - A ??? gets asked, and 3 pages later, no CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE!!! Some like it, others say its just chalk.

My attitude, sir, is the by-product of this nitty site, where ???'s never get answered, people WOOF OVER THE INTERNET AND WONT DO NOTHIN, and all other sorts of things, and YES, My Attitude towards this is to the negative. BUT I TRIED TO START A GOOD THREAD, YALL JUST CANT LT THAT HAPPEN CAN YOU..

MAYBE ILL GET LUCKY AND BAN-HALEN WILL CANCEL ME.

...you make your living playing pool, yet you can't invest a few $ to investigate the latest "innovation" in chalk?!?

I'll send you a box and you can give us all your opinion. How's that? I bought 8 cubes over the summer and I haven't even gone through two yet.

PM me you address and two are yours. If your game improves I expect a cut of your increased pool revenues for, oh let's say the next ten years and then we can re-negotiate. If it's all hype you can send back the unused portion for double the money back. Deal!

MM
 
eyesjr said:
SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS ALL I AM ASKING FOR, then they get my money.

eyesjr said:
I am well aware the chemical composition of traditional chalks, and there are things one could easily do to make it better. Master works for Efren. It worked for Earl.

eyesjr, perhaps you are unaware, but Longoni has formed a consortium of Nobel Prize-winning chemists and physicists to conduct thorough researches into the superiority of BD chalk. Before they were accepted to participate, each scientist had to travel to the Philippines and take Efren's money after spotting him the 8. Their research is nearing a conclusion and a full report is due shortly in the Annals of Analytical Chemistry. I'm sure you subscribe to this journal, so watch your mailbox!
 
He comes on here telling us to NOT post in his thread, insults us and then is left wondering why he hasn't gotten the conclusive evidence that he doesn't expect to get anyways???

WOW!!!

I'm still wondering what crawled up his ass and died......:confused:
 
eyesjr said:
Find Jackson Tennessee and come bet something. And bring your Own chalk, mine is inferior.
I currently make my living playing pool, And I would love to either learn from you as you bust me, or simply bust you. Really doesnt matter either way.

This is why AZ is near the bottom of my marked sites - A ??? gets asked, and 3 pages later, no CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE!!! Some like it, others say its just chalk.

My attitude, sir, is the by-product of this nitty site, where ???'s never get answered, people WOOF OVER THE INTERNET AND WONT DO NOTHIN, and all other sorts of things, and YES, My Attitude towards this is to the negative. BUT I TRIED TO START A GOOD THREAD, YALL JUST CANT LT THAT HAPPEN CAN YOU..

MAYBE ILL GET LUCKY AND BAN-HALEN WILL CANCEL ME.

OK Big Mister Pool Player, since you is so bad and know so much, I will send you a Bus Ticket non-refundable and you can come on up here to Washington state and Bust all the Nits you want right here in my Pool room. I will even include some extra money for some food so you don't starve in route, because I would not want that on my conscience!!!!!!:thumbup:

I sent you a private Pm which I will post, there was no negative talk or threats.

Hello from Manwon
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Hello Dude, I truly mean no disrespect but the thread you started about Blue Diamond Chalk was totally out of line. We all do the wrong thing sometimes, no one is perfect. But it might be a good idea for you to go back to that thread and make an apology for your comments.

It will get everyone off your back long term, because things have a way of following you from thread to thread. You can also have the moderator pull the entire thread and just post a public apology on the main forum for your comments. You can also just say what an asshole, and march on.

Take Care
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Last, dude people like you come and go, you may be a good player, but you will never be great simply because you have no class. There is much more to playing pool than putting balls in a hole, you Sir are a Loser, you are a perfect example of the kinda person who Fats was referring to in the Hustler.

The above offer is open, come on up to the Northwest and learn what it means to truly get busted!!!!;)

Oh and by the way, the above offer of a Bus tickets never expires, people in the great Northwest can always use something to laugh about, and Dude you are funny. I have one single question do you have any hair on your ass yet?:p Because you certainly come across like you still have Milk on your lips!!!!!!:D

Have a wonderful day
 
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eyesjr said:
Find Jackson Tennessee and come bet something. And bring your Own chalk, mine is inferior.
I currently make my living playing pool, And I would love to either learn from you as you bust me, or simply bust you. Really doesnt matter either way.

This is why AZ is near the bottom of my marked sites - A ??? gets asked, and 3 pages later, no CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE!!! Some like it, others say its just chalk.

My attitude, sir, is the by-product of this nitty site, where ???'s never get answered, people WOOF OVER THE INTERNET AND WONT DO NOTHIN, and all other sorts of things, and YES, My Attitude towards this is to the negative. BUT I TRIED TO START A GOOD THREAD, YALL JUST CANT LT THAT HAPPEN CAN YOU..

MAYBE ILL GET LUCKY AND BAN-HALEN WILL CANCEL ME.


It looks like someone forgot to take their meds. :eek:
 
MikeM said:
...you make your living playing pool, yet you can't invest a few $ to investigate the latest "innovation" in chalk?!?


True that. He makes his living playing pool (or maybe just woofing over the internet) but he cant afford chalk? Just buy some and then you wouldnt have to ask azers what they think (since were all nits). Simple as that.
 
I found a cube of BD in the ball return of a Gold Crown a couple of years ago. I only use it on holidays or " special shots " it seems to have extreme GRIPTION I mean it's gripping qualities are amazing :winknudge:
 
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