The preaching of the "why" and the do vs. don't isn't the point.
It doesn't matter if you hit the shaft or not.
The point is that wood shafts get dinged and the carbon fiber break in half.
Big difference.
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The preaching of the "why" and the do vs. don't isn't the point.
It doesn't matter if you hit the shaft or not.
The point is that wood shafts get dinged and the carbon fiber break in half.
Big difference.
I've broken "many" wood shafts in my younger and angry pool playing days. I'd bet that the Revo shaft is about the same in breakability. If you slam it on the table hard enough to break a wood shaft, it will break the Revo shaft, and vice versa.
Where the Revo shaft seems to excel, from the first hand accounts of members here who own one now for many months, is that it doesn't get the tiniest of nicks or dents on it during normal play.
Maybe they should supply a protective condom to keep it in , and of course they don't back warpage because it's rare that they don't ,
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Yes I am 100% sure about that.
You're sir are denser than the shaft
It's funny, from the moment this thread began, your key focus has been bashing a company, for whatever reason. I'm not pro or anti predator product per say, but your constant negative visceral comments lead me to believe you're a pretty unhappy person. Please for all of our sakes do not buy anything, as I'm almost certain you'll be unhappy. You should make everything yourself, because clearly you're a genius.
With that said, We're all on here because this is a game we love, and good or bad, I don't see any other cue companies supporting tournaments and pros the way Predator does. Not OB, Viking, Mezz, Joss, Meucci, Lucasi, none of them contribute half as much as Predator does. But I know you're a glass half empty kind of person, and well since you have no filter, I'll remove mine, II kind of hope you choke on it...
If that's out of line for you I understand, I don't know you, but I can read and I'm only commenting on your need to be negative constantly, so here is a dose of your own medicine. Drink up now.
It's funny, from the moment this thread began, your key focus has been bashing a company, for whatever reason. I'm not pro or anti predator product per say, but your constant negative visceral comments lead me to believe you're a pretty unhappy person. Please for all of our sakes do not buy anything, as I'm almost certain you'll be unhappy. You should make everything yourself, because clearly you're a genius.
With that said, We're all on here because this is a game we love, and good or bad, I don't see any other cue companies supporting tournaments and pros the way Predator does. Not OB, Viking, Mezz, Joss, Meucci, Lucasi, none of them contribute half as much as Predator does. But I know you're a glass half empty kind of person, and well since you have no filter, I'll remove mine, II kind of hope you choke on it...
If that's out of line for you I understand, I don't know you, but I can read and I'm only commenting on your need to be negative constantly, so here is a dose of your own medicine. Drink up now.
The point is, if someone wants to be a meathead with their cue, then let them. The warranty guarantees against warpage, not ham-handed orangutans beating on the table like a drum.
As to nit-picking about marketing, who-did-what-first, how does it look.... who freakin' cares - if you're not going to buy it anyway? I won't buy one because it's out of my price range, and frankly I like the look of the shaft but those butts are, well, not my favorite design.
Predator, like any other company on the planet that desires to be successful, markets their technology so they can make a profit and pay their staff. People that see the value in the product will buy it, and vise versa. Nobody seems to complain about other companies taking $35 of wood and charging $500-$2000 for it? Of course not, there's R&D and labor and marketing involved - same as in a Revo.
I'll asd too, that aside from my theory of the foam increasing the rigidity of the CF tube, which would contribute to the catastrophic failure, the shaft broke at the transition from the "parallel" section to the conical section, which acts as a stress riser at that transition. I see this a lot with endmills that have a larger shank than cutting area - the shank tapers toward the flutes, and when the tool breaks, it is amost always at that transition fro flutes to shank taper
"meathead" or not has nothing to do with the strength of the shaft.
Which is all I was commenting and specifically said it was my only point....golly......lol
One can make a hardened ateel cue shaft, and you'd be able to fracture it the same way. There more than strong enough in their intended direction of use.
As a matter of fact, they are produced in a facility, owned by Predator in Boston, MA,
Poolplayer2016
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I think a honeycomb design would be good...very light...very strong either tensile or lateral direction.
Close...it's in Massachusetts but not in Boston..not even the same area code as Boston
His friends stand around and laugh...The guy could have died of at least 2 different causes, the impact of the head and the twisting of the neck! I hope that guy watched the video and decided to get some new friends, and learned a lesson on how to treat a pool cue. I seriously hope he's allright, but come on, who wears a hat with a tanktop and shorts?
No shaft is unbreakable, or at least no shaft that would be playable at all. But carbon fiber as used in fishing rods (and the Revo) can be quite brittle. If you pair this with idiot pool players who slam their cues..well, the OP showed us what will happen.
I've gotten bent, a beaten up wood shaft that have been smacked 10-15 times at the probable speed at which that Revo broke (guessing) back to playable shape. And it will never break in the future because of those past beatings, but obviously can if someone hits it even harder.
On the other hand, I've seen some pretty spectacular failures of laminated shafts! Some split lenghtwise in the lamination, others split in the middle of the wooden piece. One 314 exploded in a rain of wooden splinters...Z-shafts...I've seen the break in every possible way. You have to baby those Z-shafts.
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Regardless of setbacks, it is clear to me that synthetic shafts are here to stay. They will be better and more affordable. We are in the early stages of development.
Synthetics will eventually provide us a more consistent shaft. It's just a matter of time. The development limit is the return on investment, but the potential is there. If I were investing in cue technology, this is the direction I would go.
Synthetics will eventually provide us a more consistent shaft. It's just a matter of time. The development limit is the return on investment, but the potential is there. If I were investing in cue technology, this is the direction I would go.
You do know the Joss Northeast 9 ball tour has been running for a couple of decade's don't you? Joss gives each pool room a cue for every single tournament. I don't know what you call it. But that's pretty strong.
Poolplayer2016
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Just got notified that my P3 REVO CN has arrived and is ready for pick up...will post pics later.