Brunswick GCI and AR-6100 Questions. Calling Experts!

atthecat

atthecat

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I figured some GCI experts out there could answer a few questions for me. I just bought a 1963 GCI but the label says Model AR-6100. Are all GCIs essentially AR-6100s??? What does AR-6100 stand for. The back side of my slate is an orange/rust color. I haven't seen that color on my Anniversary or GCII. Anyone know what that's about?
Here's my label:
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atthecat said:
I figured some GCI experts out there could answer a few questions for me. I just bought a 1963 GCI but the label says Model AR-6100. Are all GCIs essentially AR-6100s??? What does AR-6100 stand for. The back side of my slate is an orange/rust color. I haven't seen that color on my Anniversary or GCII. Anyone know what that's about?
Here's my label:
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I have a GCII and that's what mine says. No rusty slate on my table either.
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Brunswick Gold Crown model AR-6100 pool tables

Washington State University had an auction for ten of these in 2006 and listed them as the tile states.

Their flier from their site:

http://facops.wsu.edu/pdf/pooltablebidform.pdf

Also from Brunswick site: http://www.brunswickbilliards.com/our_rich_history/important_events/index.html

1961
In development since 1958, it’s the debut year of the AR6100 series Gold Crown™ table. Destined to become the finest table ever made, it set new standards for the industry. Refinements and upgrades over the next 30 plus years bring the table to the ultimate Gold Crown™ IV, unmatched in reputation, preferred by professionals, used in tournaments and exhibitions worldwide
 
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These tables are phonies. Any of you who have these tables should dismantle them immediately and send them to me.

Realkingcobra, I may need your number.
 
atthecat said:
I figured some GCI experts out there could answer a few questions for me. I just bought a 1963 GCI but the label says Model AR-6100. Are all GCIs essentially AR-6100s??? What does AR-6100 stand for. The back side of my slate is an orange/rust color. I haven't seen that color on my Anniversary or GCII. Anyone know what that's about?
Here's my label:
gc1label.jpg
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The orange/rust color you're referring to is not real slate, it's called Brunstone, a composite made by Brunswick in an attempt to find an alternative to using real slate.

Glen
 
Real King Cobra

I am looking for one of these tables. How do you know which models (GC I, GC II) had these "substitute" slates?
 
JG-in-KY said:
I am looking for one of these tables. How do you know which models (GC I, GC II) had these "substitute" slates?
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Almost all the GC1's & 2's came with either Brunstone or Bluestone. Brunswick didn't switch back to slate until the GC3's came out. Even the early GC3's didn't have real slate.

Glen
 
Slate?

Here is a picture of a piece of slate from a Gold Crown 1 (AR-6100) Table was made in 1973 or 1974. Not sure if it is real slate or Brunstone. All Grey in color. The slate seemed similar to the slate of my Gold Crown III. It was just as heavy!!!!

How can I attach a sweet word document of a comparison of all Gold Crown models? The document is 800kb. AZ limit is 100kb.

In this picture, the slate is wet with condensation. The slate came from an outside temp of -5 to an indoor temp of 68.

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Thanks everyone for clearing some things up for me. I'll post slate photos later.
Monte
 
Yeah my GC 2 I believe has the same sticker and the "slate" is a darker grey color.
 
realkingcobra said:
Almost all the GC1's & 2's came with either Brunstone or Bluestone. Brunswick didn't switch back to slate until the GC3's came out. Even the early GC3's didn't have real slate.

Glen[/QUOT


Does it play different than real slate?
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Here are a couple of pictures of my slate. You can see it has a slight rust tint to it.
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I don't know anything about a substitute slate.

My slates on my Gold CrownIII and Cold Crown I are the same.

Russ......
 
atthecat said:
Here are a couple of pictures of my slate. You can see it has a slight rust tint to it.
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That's Brunstone, not slate. And I see your table has adjustable leg levelers with it, unless it was modified, or a late model GC1, actually being a GC2...GC1's didn't come with adjustable leg levelers. Because a GC1 or 2 today has real slate on it, don't mean it was original guys, as it could have been replace before you ever bought it. One of the main reasons the Brunstone or Bluestone would have been replaced would have been because it sagged from side to side so bad, that it couldn't be leveled out. Brunstone/Bluestone is very brittle, and if you try shimming it up for being swayback, it'll crack on you...right down the middle, as it's not as flexable as real slate is. Another give away of the GC1 and 2 slates, is that they were sloped in the pockets, so if you have pockets that are cut straight down, they're not original to the table...if it's a GC1 or 2;)

Glen
 
Mantool said:
Here is a picture of a piece of slate from a Gold Crown 1 (AR-6100) Table was made in 1973 or 1974. Not sure if it is real slate or Brunstone. All Grey in color. The slate seemed similar to the slate of my Gold Crown III. It was just as heavy!!!!

How can I attach a sweet word document of a comparison of all Gold Crown models? The document is 800kb. AZ limit is 100kb.

In this picture, the slate is wet with condensation. The slate came from an outside temp of -5 to an indoor temp of 68.

Camerapics003-1.jpg
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I believe that's Bluestone, look on the playing surface and see if you see the grinding marks from being finished, if there's no circular grind mark...it's not slate.

Glen
 
Thanks RKC for your expert help. I found a bunch of dates on the table from Sept 4, 1963. The guy I bought it from said it was all original. The rails and aprons are in amazing shape that I assume every thing else is original. Even the drop pockets have the 1963 date on them. With the dates and being that the casters are aluminum I figured GCI. There are dates on the legs too, 9/49/63. Does this make sense???
 
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