Butting heads with an idiot!

to Meucci Man...

I had an issue with a Meucci shaft after the move back to Byhalia. I ordered a Dot shaft and the Collar was not bored center. It was at least 10 to 15 thousandths off, as you could easily see a crescent shaped gap on one side where the Phenolic ring was supposed to meet the wood about a third of the way around the joint/wood.

If Quality is your first priority, then things like that don't get out the door on a regular basis.
Maybe that was right after they moved back...it was a nightmare getting through on the phone due to "renovations."

I traded the unplayed shaft in for a case instead.
They did make good on an equitable order when I finally got to deal with them.

For the original Post:
If it sells to someone for $2K, then apparently it is worth that at some point in time, whether we agree with it or not.

Good luck with future endeavors.
Jeremy
 
MeucciMan79 said:
Hey 2 for Meucci one against it! lol JK Everyone has there opinion. Saturn automotive almost went under because they was having fires behind the dashes of there cars the first year or two of building cars. But they fixed the issue. If everyone had of boycotted them rather than giving them a chance to fix the problem, well you know what would have happened.
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Did I run across an old thread by accident or am I in a time warp? I thought Saturn went out of production 2 or 3 years ago?
 
MeucciMan79 said:
I am sorry but it burns my ass to here this kid talk about his $2000 Lucasi. Personally I have never seen a Lucasi priced new for over $500 if my memory serves me right! Then he tries telling me that Lucasi is the only production cue made in the united states! Really? Last I heard Lucasi was made in China! Believe it or not I convinced the knuckle head in to buying a Meucci. I love Repping Meucci, I hate dealing with someone who is completely ignorant to billiards and billiards equipment yet they think they are a god to the sport when there game is so weak that they can't even get on a bar league team
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Why do you care?
 
Did they correct the issue? Sounds to me like they corrected their manufacturing, but left a bunch of garbage out in the marketplace--which is actually the issue.

Until every one of the 'bad era' meucci's is bought back from the original owner, or replaced with a 'good' (?) meucci, the problem has not been fixed.

A girl I knew was looking for a cue which featured a lot of purple and found a Meucci. I actually told her that it would be a good cue. She babied that cue, but within months it looked like it had been dropped in a lake for a week and left in a hot oven to dry. She only paid ~$400 for it....



I bought a Meucci around 03 and have never had problems...not trying to jack your post but is this "the bad era"?
I had a friend put it on his lathe..it had .05 difference in being completely straight!

AS for the Lucasi victim...I almost victim to this myself till a good friend of mine let me pick up a couple of his custom cues and all I can say is IM SOLD!! :D I would say that if the guy is such a hot shot maybe play for a little more than just bragging rights?
 
macguy said:
Why do you care?
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Well in reality I don't, but considering I have been around the billiards scene for a day or two and with that said he insulted my intelligence. I don't see why he couldn't just be happy with what he has and not try to pump it up to impress me, he did this in a large billiards room around a bunch of smart people, the sight of them rolling there eyes was priceless
 
BumpnRun said:
Did I run across an old thread by accident or am I in a time warp? I thought Saturn went out of production 2 or 3 years ago?
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Saturn may have went out, not to sure, but they didn't go out in the beginning when they was working out the bugs! :thumbup:
 
DoubleD said:
Did they correct the issue? Sounds to me like they corrected their manufacturing, but left a bunch of garbage out in the marketplace--which is actually the issue.

Until every one of the 'bad era' meucci's is bought back from the original owner, or replaced with a 'good' (?) meucci, the problem has not been fixed.

A girl I knew was looking for a cue which featured a lot of purple and found a Meucci. I actually told her that it would be a good cue. She babied that cue, but within months it looked like it had been dropped in a lake for a week and left in a hot oven to dry. She only paid ~$400 for it....

dld
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I have known Bob for 32 years, I can not say that he did that exactly but I do know that people that called to complain about a new cue was told to send it in and it would be warrantied! As far as your female friends cue, not sure whats up with that, possibly a bad batch of clear? I bet if she had addressed the issue with Bob he would have taken care of it. I am not trying to take up for Meucci, I just know that they warranty there cues due to builders error but once again I agree there should not be that many builder errors!
 
DoubleD said:
Would...would Saturn have...gone out of business?

Because we all know that Saturn is going gangbusters, huh?

Saturn motor company est. January 7 1985, closed October 31, 2010.

dld
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Hey speaking of vehicles, that is a beautiful truck in your avtar, I am restoring a 1971 SS Nova at this time! :D
 
MeucciMan79 said:
Okay but that is not $2,000, me personally I would not give that for a cue made in China!
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Well buddy,

this is all about personal preference. Discussions about Meucci is something where i definitley won t post- would be senseless. They made some nice cues in the 80s-90s - but never was *my choice*.

What is a fact is, that Lucasi brings a lot of cue for your bucks. Lucasi and Predator for example have in my opinion the same quality standard. Here just the design is making the difference.

And about China-- from what i read, you know a bit about Meucci- so we better not talk about China cues nowadays :-)
 
Ratta said:
Well buddy,

this is all about personal preference. Discussions about Meucci is something where i definitley won t post- would be senseless. They made some nice cues in the 80s-90s - but never was *my choice*.

What is a fact is, that Lucasi brings a lot of cue for your bucks. Lucasi and Predator for example have in my opinion the same quality standard. Here just the design is making the difference.

And about China-- from what i read, you know a bit about Meucci- so we better not talk about China cues nowadays :-)
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Have to agree with you. One of my earlier cues was a Lucasi , had great success with it. It's design was equal to the task. I know some players that still play with them.
 
Ratta said:
Well buddy,

this is all about personal preference. Discussions about Meucci is something where i definitley won t post- would be senseless. They made some nice cues in the 80s-90s - but never was *my choice*.

What is a fact is, that Lucasi brings a lot of cue for your bucks. Lucasi and Predator for example have in my opinion the same quality standard. Here just the design is making the difference.

And about China-- from what i read, you know a bit about Meucci- so we better not talk about China cues nowadays :-)
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Falcon Eddie said:
Have to agree with you. One of my earlier cues was a Lucasi , had great success with it. It's design was equal to the task. I know some players that still play with them.
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Sorry I just can't look past the fact that it is made in China!
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rrich1 said:
if something is well made who cares where it came from? you are bashing lucasi when your beloved meuccis had a sh!tty run in production and made in America.
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Maybe he cares because he loves his country and wants to support American made products.

You may not understand, I see you are in Illinois, home of the Liberals...
 
I'll say this much on where things are made.

As some of you know I work in the gulf of Mexico. I build an maintain pneumatic,electrical an scada safety systems.

Sometimes we get things that are made here in USA that's not up to par, but this is very much not the norm. Parts made in china an Taiwan like fake Crosby shackles an stainless tubing along with valves made from over there are DANGEROUS. They can't make roofs stay on buildings in billion dollar airports in Asia, can't make drywall right.....it's always some half assed junk made by extremely unskilled laborers, so what are you supposed to expect out of their product.

I'm not saying Lucasi is better than Meucci or vice versa, I care not. I build my own dam cues.

But what I am saying that American made is still the way to go, we are safer, have better trained workers and use better materials.

If bob screwed the pooch an let his quality go to pot like many of the imports then he should just move the whole shebang to Asia.

If Lucasi is making a great product over there then that's commendable.

Back to your local show now,
-greyghost
 
20 years ago i bought 29 meucci at one time,maybe 17
every one was warped
new in package

they would offer no remedy

when were they any good?is my question

i would put jd cues down as 10 ,20,1000 times as good
 
I doubt that Measureman would take $2000 for his Lucasi.
Bruce must know something because he has unofficially retired the Lucasi, and he is a world famous production cue genius.
 
amen to that!

greyghost said:
I'll say this much on where things are made.

As some of you know I work in the gulf of Mexico. I build an maintain pneumatic,electrical an scada safety systems.

Sometimes we get things that are made here in USA that's not up to par, but this is very much not the norm. Parts made in china an Taiwan like fake Crosby shackles an stainless tubing along with valves made from over there are DANGEROUS. They can't make roofs stay on buildings in billion dollar airports in Asia, can't make drywall right.....it's always some half assed junk made by extremely unskilled laborers, so what are you supposed to expect out of their product.

I'm not saying Lucasi is better than Meucci or vice versa, I care not. I build my own dam cues.

But what I am saying that American made is still the way to go, we are safer, have better trained workers and use better materials.

If bob screwed the pooch an let his quality go to pot like many of the imports then he should just move the whole shebang to Asia.

If Lucasi is making a great product over there then that's commendable.

Back to your local show now,
-greyghost
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There is the occasional exception to the rule but for the most part things made in the mideast and far east have cut corners on quality all the way from the making of the raw materials to the finished product. I'm sure you can tell your own horror stories by the dozen about crappy metal from those areas. Start with crappy metal and anything made from it has to be crappy. Work people 90 or a 100 hours a week and their quality falls off over time. Not their fault, exhausted people mess up as I preached to my bosses when I ran turnarounds. Add little or no training to the equation and it is a recipe for most things coming from those areas. I often wonder if they use the same crap at home or just export it? If I have to bet my ass on something where safety is an issue it is gonna have "made in the USA" on it!

Not a big deal when you get a crappy cue, lesson learned. When you get a crappy piece of safety related equipment or machinery spinning at speed it can kill you. I still buy cheap crap for certain uses but I bear in mind what it is.

Hu
 
My experience in pool halls is people inflate the value of their cue in the hope some sucker will buy it from them and, since it has happened to me a few time, evidently I look like a sucker.
 
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