Calcutta
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Sweet that means I still haven't heard of a house taking a calcutta cut. Looks like I'm still winning the unknown bet with AlphaDog
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Stop the countSweet that means I still haven't heard of a house taking a calcutta cut. Looks like I'm still winning the unknown bet with AlphaDog
If I recall in Arizona they had side pots, you could pay to be in side pot. If you were in Tournament. Only people playing allied in.
Last person in side pot still in Tournament won 100% of side pot.
Believe the Calcutta is not legal under Arizona ARS Section.
Last person in side pot still in Tournament won 100% of side pot.
Believe the Calcutta is not legal under Arizona ARS Section.
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I have heard of rooms getting greedy and taking a cut out of the calcutta. More commonly I have heard of the room taking the tournament director's fee out of the calcutta. With some running over a hundred thousand taking a bite out of it is certainly tempting. However, in my state it is illegal for even a penny to be taken from the calcutta! No fees for running it, no juice for people that didn't buy into it.
A little off topic but I prefer the cash option which I think is the same as Coco's side pot. If you are in the tournament you can enter the cash option. Everybody pays the same fee to enter and typically the cash option is a little more top heavy than the regular tournament payout.
Winning the calcutta or cash option is often the difference between not much more than breaking even and a sweet payout. Might be an indication that the main tournament entry fee needs to be raised and have a bigger payout. Of course chasing outside sponsors is always a good idea too!
Hu
A little off topic but I prefer the cash option which I think is the same as Coco's side pot. If you are in the tournament you can enter the cash option. Everybody pays the same fee to enter and typically the cash option is a little more top heavy than the regular tournament payout.
Winning the calcutta or cash option is often the difference between not much more than breaking even and a sweet payout. Might be an indication that the main tournament entry fee needs to be raised and have a bigger payout. Of course chasing outside sponsors is always a good idea too!
Hu
That just sounds like entering the tournament twice, without the division of the prize pool for the top few.
Speaking as a player that's never a favourite, but can do some damage if the stars align. I think I would always prefer getting into the calcutta with small money. I also do enjoy the calcutta atmosphere, and think it does engage rail birds. The hustle and bustle of guys brainstorming who's buying who, and the pooling of money so everyone can get a piece of the top shots. Even the occassional boost in ego when people start betting it up when your name is on the block. I'm always disappointed when there's no calcutta.
A Calcutta certainly adds to the interest/participation in a weekly tournament or any tournament, as does some sort of break and run competition.
Our weekly handicapped 9-ball tournament participation numbers increased significantly when we added our player auction 5+ years ago, and has remained strong ever since.
We do allow non-tournament players to participate in the auction, although it doesn’t happen often. The house gets no cut, but gets $5 per player out of the greens fees.
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Hu...I lived in MT for many years. The annual "coin-op" state championships were always run by the Valley charterholders (which also controlled all the other gambling as well...jukebox, pinball, poker machines, etc). There were 300+ players every year, and it was always held at a hotel convention center. When they would hold the calcutta, they would rake 30% for themselves...and here's the worst of it, use that money to buy up the top players! This was 15-25 yrs ago, but it wouldn't surprise me that they're still doing it!
Scott Lee
Some do, some don't. Sometimes the house takes a cut and/or the auctioneer gets a jelly-roll for running it. Varies from place to place.
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There you go! It's not unusual for the House/TD to take a 10% cut for running a big Calcutta. Rarely do you see them being done gratis.
I most certainly wouldn't have an issue with the person doing the work taking a small piece of the pie. Based on the small numbers I'm used to, 10% seems more than adequate. The 30% mentioned earlier is robbery imo.
That said, my experience has been 100% the opposite of yours. However it goes without saying that your exposure to tournament of note worthy size is light years ahead of mine.
Calcutta for small money is sweet.
Ive collected nicely for minimum bid a few times.
I come to play pool. While the south Louisiana calcuttas are famous for being huge, they also drag on forever. Typically the schedule says, Calcutta starts at XX:XX tournament starts immediately afterwards. Then there are hours and hours of calcutta! Six or eight hours of calcutta isn't unheard of. Since there is no set time for the tournament to start, a person is pretty much stuck waiting through the calcutta. With standing room only I may leave most of my pool game on the calcutta floor. Too, if local gamblers with deep pockets get word of the calcutta the people winning it may not even be pool players or enthusiasts, just gamblers that recognize they are getting their money in at excellent odds. With entry fees being low hundreds and calcutta buys going into thousands often a player can't even buy half of themselves so the winning gambler wins a lot more than the winning player! A big tournament pays over a hundred thousand total. A bit over forty to win, over sixty thousand to win the calcutta. Sounds great, until you find out the player couldn't even afford to buy half of themselves and the calcutta buyer is strictly a gambler that didn't feel the need to even pass out a little jelly after covering all of the calcutta action he lost on out of winnings. Or maybe he figures the calcutta winnings offset losses at the casino or the crap table or the track, or ...
Wagering on my performance is one thing, gambling on somebody else's performance is something else. My pool match is being held up for hours while other people gamble. How would they feel if to play a tournament they first had to watch people at a casino play the endless rows of machines for hours? Side pots take minutes to run, you collect the entry and write down a name as you collect regular entries. That I have no problem with. It is the forced wait through calcuttas while delaying the tournament I dislike. I don't care one way or another if they run the calcutta the day or night before and have a set time for the tournament to start.
Hu
Wagering on my performance is one thing, gambling on somebody else's performance is something else. My pool match is being held up for hours while other people gamble. How would they feel if to play a tournament they first had to watch people at a casino play the endless rows of machines for hours? Side pots take minutes to run, you collect the entry and write down a name as you collect regular entries. That I have no problem with. It is the forced wait through calcuttas while delaying the tournament I dislike. I don't care one way or another if they run the calcutta the day or night before and have a set time for the tournament to start.
Hu
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At Reds the year Reyes won under an assumed name, it was not because no one knew him, people knew him by name and sight. I think it was for the Calcutta. Reyes was nowhere to be seen and when the Calcutta was done he sold to a countryman for $100.00.
His fake name came and went unnoticed like a lot of players. Meantime players like Sigel sold for like $3000.00. I remember guys in cowboy hats pàying rediclous amounts for players. The Calcutta pot that year was over $30,000.00.
His fake name came and went unnoticed like a lot of players. Meantime players like Sigel sold for like $3000.00. I remember guys in cowboy hats pàying rediclous amounts for players. The Calcutta pot that year was over $30,000.00.