Can we have a story about Pagulayan without the "Diminutive" qualifier?!?
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The writers aren't listening!!!
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryID=118327
Pagulayan silences critics
By RONNIE NATHANIELSZ
World Pool Champion Alex ?The Lion? Pagulayan has effectively silenced the critics who circulated a text message after he won the prestigious World Pool Masters Championship at the Riviera Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas by winning an epic race-to-100 showdown against touted American sensation Shane Van Boening also in Las Vegas .
Inside Pool Magazine correspondent Samm Diep reported ?Same story, different game? as 2004 champ Pagulayan who came back to defeat 2001 World Pool Champion Mika ?The Iceman? Immonen in the Masters finals 8-6 pulled off an incredible comeback on the final day of a grueling match that lasted a total of over 23 hours to pocket another $20,000 in the ActionReport.com (TAR) pit.
Pagulayan trailed the smooth-stroking Van Boening behind an excellent break from the start and at one point was down by 23 racks going into the final day. But the diminutive Filipino roared back to grab the lead for the first time 93-92 before a 7-2 windup gave him a 100-94 triumph.
Diep noted that ?neither player had missed a ball for hours, giving the packed room a rivalry they?ll be talking about for years.? Ultimately it became apparent that the momentum shifted even as Van Boening attempted to regain his lead but some fatal errors eventually cost him the match.
In a post match interview monitored by Viva Sports, Pagulayan said ?I am more happy than when I won the World Pool Masters because I was behind by 22 games and the people behind me kept asking themselves can Alex pull it off one more time and said to myself, if I get a chance I am going to do whatever I can (to win.)?
When asked about the comeback Pagulayan explained ?I?m the kind of player who is a slow starter and the more I play, the longer I play the better I get especially when I?m down.?
Pagulayan said ?I am the kind of guy who thinks while I?m playing. I want to play a race-to-100 straight-up to tell you the truth. I don?t like to play three days just because I am a very, very slow starter. The first night I was down 13 games, the second night I was down 23 games, today I was down 13 games and I don?t know how I did it.?
The victory by Pagulayan reminded pool fans of the epic battle between Efren "Bata" Reyes and Earl "The Pearl" Strickland in a small but plush Hong Kong bar in 1996 when Reyes played some magical shots to come back from 23 racks down to eventually win the race-to-120 also over three days 120-117 and pocket the winner-take-all prize of $100,000 put up by the late multi-millionaire Robert " Bob" Moore.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryID=118327
Pagulayan silences critics
By RONNIE NATHANIELSZ
World Pool Champion Alex ?The Lion? Pagulayan has effectively silenced the critics who circulated a text message after he won the prestigious World Pool Masters Championship at the Riviera Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas by winning an epic race-to-100 showdown against touted American sensation Shane Van Boening also in Las Vegas .
Inside Pool Magazine correspondent Samm Diep reported ?Same story, different game? as 2004 champ Pagulayan who came back to defeat 2001 World Pool Champion Mika ?The Iceman? Immonen in the Masters finals 8-6 pulled off an incredible comeback on the final day of a grueling match that lasted a total of over 23 hours to pocket another $20,000 in the ActionReport.com (TAR) pit.
Pagulayan trailed the smooth-stroking Van Boening behind an excellent break from the start and at one point was down by 23 racks going into the final day. But the diminutive Filipino roared back to grab the lead for the first time 93-92 before a 7-2 windup gave him a 100-94 triumph.
Diep noted that ?neither player had missed a ball for hours, giving the packed room a rivalry they?ll be talking about for years.? Ultimately it became apparent that the momentum shifted even as Van Boening attempted to regain his lead but some fatal errors eventually cost him the match.
In a post match interview monitored by Viva Sports, Pagulayan said ?I am more happy than when I won the World Pool Masters because I was behind by 22 games and the people behind me kept asking themselves can Alex pull it off one more time and said to myself, if I get a chance I am going to do whatever I can (to win.)?
When asked about the comeback Pagulayan explained ?I?m the kind of player who is a slow starter and the more I play, the longer I play the better I get especially when I?m down.?
Pagulayan said ?I am the kind of guy who thinks while I?m playing. I want to play a race-to-100 straight-up to tell you the truth. I don?t like to play three days just because I am a very, very slow starter. The first night I was down 13 games, the second night I was down 23 games, today I was down 13 games and I don?t know how I did it.?
The victory by Pagulayan reminded pool fans of the epic battle between Efren "Bata" Reyes and Earl "The Pearl" Strickland in a small but plush Hong Kong bar in 1996 when Reyes played some magical shots to come back from 23 racks down to eventually win the race-to-120 also over three days 120-117 and pocket the winner-take-all prize of $100,000 put up by the late multi-millionaire Robert " Bob" Moore.
Samm Diep here. Long time listener, infrequent caller.
Actually.....
Just for the record: This writer is listening. I personally never use(d) the word "diminutive" in my written nor live account of the recent Pagulayan match-up. In fact, I cringe myself when I hear announcers using it about him. The actual write-up can be found at InsidePoolMag.com.
I just felt I should chime in since this last post could sound like I used the word "diminutive." The word makes me think of more than just small in size so I refuse to use it.
My $.02,
/s
Actually.....
Just for the record: This writer is listening. I personally never use(d) the word "diminutive" in my written nor live account of the recent Pagulayan match-up. In fact, I cringe myself when I hear announcers using it about him. The actual write-up can be found at InsidePoolMag.com.
I just felt I should chime in since this last post could sound like I used the word "diminutive." The word makes me think of more than just small in size so I refuse to use it.
My $.02,
/s
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I see nothing wrong with such descriptive terminology. Accurate descriptions are not demeaning.
If we fail to describe people accurately, we will soon be subjected to endless discussions on the stylishness of the Emperor's new clothes (for a while there, I was fairly certain that KT could have gotten away with wearing nothing, and still had a legion of admirers).
If we fail to describe people accurately, we will soon be subjected to endless discussions on the stylishness of the Emperor's new clothes (for a while there, I was fairly certain that KT could have gotten away with wearing nothing, and still had a legion of admirers).
Williebetmore said:
"Accurate" compared to who's standard. Maybe in the Filipines his stature would not not be considered "diminutive".. Whose standard we going by? Like some kids today I heard talking say "He's OLD, he's forty something". In Hollywood you might be considered a "fattie" but in Minnesota or Hawaii people might call you "slim".
Descriptions usually define a person by someone else's standard. I dont like it myself.
Williebetmore said:
Fair enough, but if you must attach an adjective about his stature to the story, then there are a whole plethora, a veritable potpourri, a smorgasbord, if you will, of lonely synonyms of diminutive that could be used. Let's have some creativity in our writing!!!
yobagua said:
Yo-man,
Accurate compared to the standard of the author (and his culture).
When Alex is described as diminutive, it is fairly accurate for this country and culture. His pool skills are definitely gargantuan by any cultures standards (.....except perhaps in the Philipppppinnnnesssss......).
From 1 sam to another
You might be right about more than thought about that word. I usually describe him to people as a rather short, extremely funny, extremely talented pool player. Who always has a smile, and a way to make everyone around smile before he's thru. With the exception of someone who chose to gamble against him, {even then, you may see them smiling too}....
sammspocket said:
You might be right about more than thought about that word. I usually describe him to people as a rather short, extremely funny, extremely talented pool player. Who always has a smile, and a way to make everyone around smile before he's thru. With the exception of someone who chose to gamble against him, {even then, you may see them smiling too}....
So, it seems you are quoting Mr. Nathaneilsz's writing. Perhaps you should contact his editor and point out that you find such a description offensive. Complaining about it here is pointless. None of us would ever call Alex "diminutive." Perhaps minuscule, short, knee-high, or sawed-off, but certainly not diminutive.beetle said:
And don't forget: "Squirt", "Shrimp", or "Runt".Bob Jewett said:
Doc
Well, "squirt" has a different meaning at pool, and I think the other two are unnecessarily pejorative.gulfportdoc said:And don't forget: "Squirt", "Shrimp", or "Runt".
Doc
For the benefit of those who have forsworn the use of "diminutive," some on-line thesauri suggest these alternatives:
dwarf
homunculus
lilliputian
midget
peewee
pygmy
stunted
abbreviated
gnomic
deciduous
undersized
wee
mignon
dinky
miniature
miniscule
petite (or probably petit)
scant
puny
picayune (for JoeyA!)
With all of these alternatives available, I think the OP's request not to use "diminutive" is entirely reasonable.
Ah, well... The object is not to belittle, but to be helpful. How about "pint-sized"?Bob Jewett said:
Doc
satman said:
I'll say, aka "Cherry Bomb", and here is why....
They should just call him what he is; Monster.
Besides, he aint that small.
I jacked the above photo from OMGWTF's latest Blog (She always gets the good shots)
Notice the look of shear terror in Tony's eyes. And Alex's size 4 shoes by his belt.
Whatever people call Alex one thing is undisputed, he has a giant heart.
Besides, he aint that small.
I jacked the above photo from OMGWTF's latest Blog (She always gets the good shots)
Notice the look of shear terror in Tony's eyes. And Alex's size 4 shoes by his belt.
Whatever people call Alex one thing is undisputed, he has a giant heart.
JCIN said:
Yeah, I think Tony was very close to having to tap-out or pass out!
Seriousley, I read an interview of Alex once and he said when he was growing up that he would never back down in a fight and he really shows that on the pool table too. He's a great ambassador for pool.