What is the difference in playabilty or durability when dealing with capped ferrules versus ferrules drilled all the way through? It seems most custom makers use capped ferrules, is this correct?
Capped Ferrules vs non capped
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My Lanz cue had a Capped Ivory ferrule,my Sickles SP is also capped. My Varney has a non capped ferrule.
Also, every production cue I've owned had a capped ferrule.
As for playability, there is a distinctly different sound of hit with the varney to say the sickles, but not much difference from capped ferrule to capped ferrule, on my custom cues at least.
Production cues are a whole OTHER story
Also, every production cue I've owned had a capped ferrule.
As for playability, there is a distinctly different sound of hit with the varney to say the sickles, but not much difference from capped ferrule to capped ferrule, on my custom cues at least.
Production cues are a whole OTHER story
it seems like most use capped ferrules and i think most do it for strength.maybe some like the hit better,but i have always liked the hit of cues where the tenon goes through to the tip.
i am sure this will insight much debate,but i like the fell muche better of a teneon through ferrule over a capped ferrule.
also the materila i use is plenty strong to use it wihtout a cap.it is even strong enough for break cues.i think LBM is strong enough also for playing cues.
if you look at some of the well know "great playing" cues lots are uncapped.
Southwest and Sugartree and Searing to name a few.i haven't had a Searing since the late 90's,but i used to get some Searing players form AQ4U and they were uncapped.i used to get them for like $650,man i wish i kept them all.
i am sure this will insight much debate,but i like the fell muche better of a teneon through ferrule over a capped ferrule.
also the materila i use is plenty strong to use it wihtout a cap.it is even strong enough for break cues.i think LBM is strong enough also for playing cues.
if you look at some of the well know "great playing" cues lots are uncapped.
Southwest and Sugartree and Searing to name a few.i haven't had a Searing since the late 90's,but i used to get some Searing players form AQ4U and they were uncapped.i used to get them for like $650,man i wish i kept them all.
Would you be concerned with using Ivorine 4 non-capped?masonh said:
I wouldn't.hoosier_cues said:
It's pretty strong.
My breaker has a 3/4 long uncapped melamine. It has not moved an iota.
I recommend using Gorilla glue on uncapped ferrules though ( for the tip ).
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hoosier_cues said:
In my opinion the only reason to use a capped ferrule is that they are fast to install. The threads hold the ferrule in place so it can be machined immediately without waiting for the epoxy to cure.
I personally do not like the way they hit.
BTW - there is a void between the end of the tenon and the back of the cap. I know it is supposedly filled with glue but I still don't like it and consider using capped ferrules a "short cut" to building a good cue.
Good Cuemaking,
When I do a capped ferrule I make the tenon long and trim it down until it just threads on all the way. Thus no gap and I like the way threaded and sleeved ferrules play, it just depends on my mood.Arnot Wadsworth said:
I don't know if being threaded makes them easier to install.masonh said:
I can make them capped or uncapped.
I have my own config on melamine tubes. It's just a little different.
I thead the tube. The pic shows my sizer ( it's a little shorter and has a shorter shoulder ). I should really make one with Delrin.
5/16 18 with a short shoulder and cap ( threaded ) is fine too. Ivor-X and melamine come that way from suppliers.
I don't like pressfit ferrules. I'm just not comfortable with it.
But, with glue rings and properly done they should last a long time too.
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Yes, they just thread the top.n10spool said:
I have the video but I can't post the whole thing here.
I think it's on youtube too.
I just did a house cue with an uncapped pvc ferrule. It seems to hit OK. Can't really tell the difference. The only cue I have to compare it with is one that needs repair , so that is not a fair comparison.
Caped or uncapped just come to personal preference. Some good hitters might be sensative enough to tell the difference. But I am not.
Neil
Caped or uncapped just come to personal preference. Some good hitters might be sensative enough to tell the difference. But I am not.
Neil
Press Fit??
A specificty designed interference fit... Specific meaning holding an exact size or caculated "interference" between the two mating pieces that are to be pressed one into the other..usually to provide holding with out adhesives. Too much interference will cause undue stress when pressing in or on the piece, too little might not securely hold the piece during temperture changes (different expansion and cortraction rates of different materials).masonh said:
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