Centennials or aramith or cyclops? What's the best pool ball sets?

We have been using the Aramith Tournament sets for the Pro events and they are preferred by the top Pros. They seem to prefer the Pro Cup cue ball too.

Ray
 
Although I respect the opinions posted here thus far, I think the primary issue here are aesthetics. I've been witness to weight, roundness and diameter measurements for several ball sets and I'm pretty sure others have done the same and posted results here. All of the brands mentioned are more accurate than anyone's game could notice. Although they all will wear, if this is for home use, you probably won't use them as much as a poolroom so they should have the same measurements for years and years.

That said, I found no technical differences between brands in my own personal experiences. I do think the colors for the Cyclops balls (specifically, the 7 and 15) are a little confusing. If your game isn't rotation, this isn't a problem. If it is, you'll have to learn to adjust to seeing a blue 7-ball. As well, the cue-ball appears to be slightly translucent which is not something I enjoy but again, I didn't miss because of it. It seemed to react normally.

If I owned my own table, I'd probably have multiple sets of balls. I like the idea of practicing with Cyclops if I know I'm going to be competing with them. The poolroom I go to has a set upon request, usually used for the exact same purpose. But, I don't think it would be my ball of choice. My first pick would be Aramith Tournament Edition. I think they're nice to look at and they're arguably the best balls on the market but I'm also certain I play enough that longevity would be an issue. I also think any poolroom looking to buy new balls should strongly consider Aramith Tournament Edition over everything else.

I can also vouch for the Aramith Tournament Edition as high quality, maybe the best of the bunch (edit: had these about 3 years). I also own Super Aramith Pro's and my buddy owns the Centennials. They are all great sets, but I'd go with the tourney's.
 
Unless Saluc or Simonis buys the Centennial brand from Brunswick, then the specifications and requirements for the Centennials are owned by Brunswick Centennial.

It is also possible that Brunswick licensed Saluc’s Aramith technology and specs to manufacture their current Centennial product.
 
I've watched world champion pros warm-up by slamming shots into the corners to see how the pockets' playing and slow rolling long cuts to see how they're throwing. You need to adjust to what you're going to play with. I prefer Centennials and red circles because that's what I usually play with. But you never know because of what they've been cleaned with, how humid it is, table rolls,etc. You need to test and adjust, regardless of the brand of balls.
 
I think people get hung up on "best". I worry about what balls I will be using when playing in a tournament or for cash. The DCC and a major local room here (St. Louis) uses mostly Cyclops, so I got a set of those. I think I prefer aramith, but I don't really want to put myself at a disadvantage when I get in the grease.

kollegedave
Derby uses them because Diamond is the importer. They suck but whatcha gonna do, not play? Just another adjustment.
 
Cyclop/Chinese Crap.
Also to all ball maker's...
Keep the traditional colors.
"TV Balls" are BS.
They don't look any better on TV.
 
Pool shoes are a good idea.

What kind of socks should I be wearing? I think I have the correct shoes, but my socks are making me miss to the left.

It was suggested that I wear 2 socks on my left foot because that side was low, but then my left shoe feels too tight...... :angry:;):thumbup:
 
What kind of socks should I be wearing? I think I have the correct shoes, but my socks are making me miss to the left.

It was suggested that I wear 2 socks on my left foot because that side was low, but then my left shoe feels too tight...... :angry:;):thumbup:

I had the same problem a few years ago and found out I was wearing two left socks;)
 
I am not a scientist so cannot comment on resin, weight or quality differences of the 3 sets of balls, but I prefer Centennials for one simple reason...The numbers are not located within the stripe, so when they are spotted with the number up, there is just a solid stripe visible for the shooter so no extra lines, curves, etc for the shooter to use as a target (this makes it equal to a solid ball with the number placed up in my opinion). I have always been unhappy that the placement of the numbers were changed embedded within the stripe.

I am also a big believer of using the cue ball that comes with the set so they all matched, so the blue circle w/the Centennials are my preferences, especially for 1-pocket.

Dave
 
I prefer Centennials[/B] for one simple reason...The numbers are not located within the stripe

Depends on what you define as the stripe! I've always thought that the white areas are two stripes that surround the solid color, rather than it being a single colored stripe on a white ball. Personally for just pure aiming I prefer the object balls to be as simple as possible so there are less visual distractions to draw the eye away from the aim point. (There used to be a company called Raschig who made a set of 9-ball balls with no numbers at all that are much prized today. Saluc purchased them and killed the design.)

Therefore on this basis the Super Pros are my favorite design. However some players like the extra visual components on the Centennials as giving a reference point to use when aiming, but on this basis other players can feel this is an unfair advantage, especially in 8-ball.

I am also a big believer of using the cue ball that comes with the set so they all matched, so the blue circle w/the Centennials are my preferences, especially for 1-pocket.

I'd agree with you on this except for the lamentable job that Saluc does with it's cue balls. They give almost no proper information about them to the public and have changed the material formulations several times whilst selling them under the same name. (This happened most recently with the Pro Cup "Measles" ball which started off using an almost pure-white formula and then changed to the same off-white used for most cue balls) The blue circle is supposed to be accurately matched to the other balls in the Centennial set but no actual figures are published by the manufacture to define what "accurate" means. The blue circle is also one of the worst at gaining and retaining chalk marks in my experience, nearly as bad as the Pro Cup. The red circle is the only current Saluc/Aramith cue ball that is easily cleanable in normal use because it has a deeper surface finish.

WPA international equipment rules define both object and cue balls as follows:

"..measure 2 ¼ (+.005) inches [5.715 cm (+ .127 mm)] in diameter and weigh 5 ½ to 6 oz [156 to 170 gms" (http://www.wpa-pool.com/web/WPA_Tournament_Table_Equipment_Specifications)

That weight specification is the primary problem, allowing for an entire half-an-ounce of difference in a set. This allows companies like Saluc to sell all their balls with nearly a 10% difference in mass from ball to ball in the same set, let alone the cue ball.

For a comparison US tennis allows only a variance of 0.12oz ounces in a Type 1 Fast tennis ball that weighs around 2oz (https://www.usta.com/2011_tennis_ball_specifications/) and millions more of those are produced at a far lower cost than billiard balls. They also define durability and deformation standards.

IMHO Saluc need to at the very least sell their Tournament set with a QC report in each box with the tolerance checks and guarantee no less than a 5% variance, including the cue ball. Then they need to sell individual cue balls the same way so it is easier to match a replacement to a set of existing object balls given that the cue balls wear much faster in normal use.
 
Depends on what you define as the stripe! I've always thought that the white areas are two stripes that surround the solid color, rather than it being a single colored stripe on a white ball. Personally for just pure aiming I prefer the object balls to be as simple as possible so there are less visual distractions to draw the eye away from the aim point. (There used to be a company called Raschig who made a set of 9-ball balls with no numbers at all that are much prized today. Saluc purchased them and killed the design.)

Therefore on this basis the Super Pros are my favorite design. However some players like the extra visual components on the Centennials as giving a reference point to use when aiming, but on this basis other players can feel this is an unfair advantage, especially in 8-ball.

Here is a picture of each sets of balls (Centennials and your favorite, Super Pros) to illustrate what I meant to say. The centennials striped balls provide no additional edges to sight when the numbers are placed up (just one solid strip). As you can see, your choice adds the lines and edges of the stripe to help aim. I think the pure way is to have a solid strip w/no additional edges to avoid any advantage to those playing 8-ball, one pocket or any other game where you spot balls an shoot from the kitchen... but that may be just me.

Dave
 

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Although I like the ball set, I find the Aramith duramith tournament ball set to play a just a bit heavy in comparison to the Cyclop or Aramith Pro. I also like Aramith Pro and Centennial ball sets.
 
We have been using the Aramith Tournament sets for the Pro events and they are preferred by the top Pros. They seem to prefer the Pro Cup cue ball too.

Ray

We've been using these at the Derby City Straight Pool Challenge for the last two or three years and the pros do like these Aramith Tournament balls. They don't have anything good to say about the balls they are using down on the main floor.
 
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