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Pockets that small make no sense for any game on a pool table. At that point you're taking away inherent qualities of pocket billiards in general not just Bonus Ball.. The 4.5 inch standard makes the most sense.
Sorry Bob, you are incorrect. Watched Mika, Rodney and Raj practice for over an hour at the LV Cue Club. Virtually every other shot, one of them had to stop and ask what the rule was on the next shot. Just like in the consumer electronics business, the number one reason for a piece of equipment not working correctly, was the owner / operator not reading the instruction manual. The joke used to be about the number of flashing clocks on VCR's. Don't read. Don't know.
Lyn
like i said in the other threads, Rodney knows the rules as well as anyone and during the commentary last night(which he is good at) he still got things backwards, the 3 pocket thing is easy to mix up. this is a inherent flaw in the game.
I'm dyslexic i can't tell right from left, been that way my whole life, true story. So for me getting right and left mixed up is normal. I think the rules in BB even if you know them 100% will still cause confusion. even with people who can tell right from left
if you look at all other cue sports straight rail billiards has the simplest rules, and snooker the most complex. most games have very simple rules 1P is simple as can be, its a complex game with simple rules. BB has comples rules and is a complex game, there are lots of moves n that game, Shannon over looked a good move-easy shot 2 times, i dont know why. too many moving parts. i hope it works out, but i believe the rules will need to be simplified, to achieve success.
I heard Earl took an illegal drop after hitting someone else's stick with a purple ball. He was penalized 2 points after someone watching the stream called in and notified the league of the infraction. Unfortunately, because of the 2 hour lag, the game was over and Earl will be allowed to stay in the league.
One set of rules
I doubt very much that Bonus Ball has different rules such as you have mentioned for 8 ball.
If they do that's a problem.
I hope your not trying to convince me that the players didn't have time to read and understand the rules (6 + months) .
Why is it so difficult for the players to read the rules?
Don
Bob Jewett is right about this, players not reading the rules beforehand. As most pool aficionados know, there's many different rules to the same game. Take 8-ball, for instance: call pocket, call shot, 8-ball neutral, 8-ball not neutral, 8 on the break wins, 8 on the break loses.
One year at the World Pool Championship, Rodney Morris was studying a shot, and he gently let his cue stick touch the table as he was measuring a straight line, to see more clearly how the object ball would go.
The referee immediately came up and told Rodney he broke the rule by using his cue on the table as a measuring device. It was counted as a foul, and he forfeighted his shot.
It was written in the rules, but the Americans, according to Charlie Williams, never received a copy that year. You would think that Charlie Williams in his role as President of the UPA, the men's pro organization at that time, would have gotten the rules to his beloved UPA members before such a prestigious event.
Rodney is still one of my all-time favorite American players. He's Mr. Cool!
I doubt very much that Bonus Ball has different rules such as you have mentioned for 8 ball.
If they do that's a problem.
I hope your not trying to convince me that the players didn't have time to read and understand the rules (6 + months) .
Why is it so difficult for the players to read the rules?
Don
cant read what aint written , they have made lots of changes the past year to the rules<---seriously
haha. I bet tiger wishes there was a tv glitch that day.
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But wouldn't you think that for their very first airing of Bonus Ball they would have at least had a set of rules in writing?
Even if the rules were bad and needed some tweeking they should all been aware of them.
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But wouldn't you think that for their very first airing of Bonus Ball they would have at least had a set of rules in writing?
Even if the rules were bad and needed some tweeking they should all been aware of them.
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The rules are in writing and I believe there is a very visible link to the them on the WPBL homepage. These are the finalized rules and have been in place for quite some time. I know because I printed them out and I have carried around a copy in my cue case so I could try the game out with my buddies.
Here is a link to the rule book.
http://www.wpbltv.com/pages/rules/complete-rulebook
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Glitches and frozen frames, I thought our pool hall was having bandwidth problems, I hope they get the problems worked out. It resembled snooker with alot of one pocket style shots. I'm not writing it off they still have alot of work to do, wait and see how the rest of the free weekend goes. 10k veiwers I'd have to say there is definitely an interest. I don't really see the need to sit back and judge them for having problems to make myself seem self important, that being said i did think the color of the cloth and carpet made it look like a black and white picture when the players were off screen. I didn't get to watch as closely as I wanted because I was running a tournament at the time but I saw some pretty sporty shots and some tough misses and leaves. Which tells me Its not an easy game to play, there are alot of little sublteties that will be explored in the upcoming weeks.Why would I give up on it now, Its simply too new to be judged yet, I think it will take a full season to see how problems are handled and bugs are worked out. Go gettem guys!!!
Glitches and frozen frames, I thought our pool hall was having bandwidth problems, I hope they get the problems worked out. It resembled snooker with alot of one pocket style shots. I'm not writing it off they still have alot of work to do, wait and see how the rest of the free weekend goes. 10k veiwers I'd have to say there is definitely an interest. I don't really see the need to sit back and judge them for having problems to make myself seem self important, that being said i did think the color of the cloth and carpet made it look like a black and white picture when the players were off screen. I didn't get to watch as closely as I wanted because I was running a tournament at the time but I saw some pretty sporty shots and some tough misses and leaves. Which tells me Its not an easy game to play, there are alot of little sublteties that will be explored in the upcoming weeks.Why would I give up on it now, Its simply too new to be judged yet, I think it will take a full season to see how problems are handled and bugs are worked out. Go gettem guys!!!
Thanks Eric, I needed that humor today. Yes, they finally did figure it out. They read the manual
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OK, I spent time at their home fixing it for them
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very well said Roger. now here is someone who has an opinion worth understanding.
Sure do.
At a Joss tournament up in, I thikn it was, Bristol, CT, Karen Corr was playing Keith McCready. She was playing strong, and Keith was sweating bullets. The two of them were neck and neck, racing to 9. When the score was 7-7, Karen was getting ready to run out the last two balls, the 8 and the 9, but she missed. Instead of letting Keith shoot them out, she gathered the balls for the next rack. It was an automatic loss of a game.
Same thing happened to Keith in a Planet Pool tournament a few months previous. He gathered the balls after a miss to rack 'em for his opponent, and his opponent called him on a foul for doing it. It was against the rules. Keith lost a game because of it. Should have known better and read the damn rules.
Brandon, it would be nice to hear some of the thoughts from the players themselves instead of a bunch of chattering railbirds on this forum. What say you? :smile:
they are written, i was joking,
but they have added and ommited things and its just a confusing game, i played it there at BB arena for a few hours-last year on the first tables they put in.. its hard, its not like other games where the rules are simple as 1,2,3 hey thats 9 ball, or solids/stripes and a black last-8ball. or thats my hole, thats your hole-one pocket , all those games have such simple rules you can focus on pool not rules.
i really like what BB is doing a arena , actually paying the players,
i dot like the conflicting dates, complex rules,
i think it will all work out, in time. last nights mess will be forgotten if it works out, if not in 30 years they will still be talking about it on the rail somehere hating away like always in pool
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Jam, All I can say is, you are really out of the loop, regarding the rules of eight ball...For one thing, they have become much more consistant, as the larger leagues have progressed...And for another, they have now become almost 'set in stone' when it comes to the professional tournament presentation of the game ! (or hi-$$$$ matches among pros)
Also, even if you are playing "Half-Drunk Elmer" in a $$$ match after league play, you will both know enough about the rules, to at least 'talk over'.. how you want to play !... This has come about, because 8-ball has always been, the MOST commonly played game, and has been around FOREVER !!!..
Bonus Ball, is twice as confusing (rule wise) and even if the game EVER reaches ANY level of popularity, (highly doubtful)...it will be well into the next century, before the general public BEGINS to understand the game. We don't have that long, to try and save pool, from complete abandonment..To compare the two games is..er, um, well, (I won't say stupid) but I will say..............
.....GROSSLY MIS-INFORMED ! :embarrassed2:
SJD---Retired, but not retarded !
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