I think the most impressive parts of this is that it has been such a short time since he started playing with the OB-1 shaft and he just started using that butt that day 
Says a lot.
Eric.
Says a lot.Eric.
Congrats John Schmidt & OB Cues - 403!!!!
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I believe it to be easier to run balls on an 8' table, Dave. Especially when the pockets are, GULP, "5 and 1/2 inches" wide. Not knocking Mosconi, I think he was probably the second best player in history and mispronouncing his name has made me a ton of money over the years. If Efren had played a lot of straight pool when he was young the record, on like equipment, could be 800 balls by now. You have to agree, no one ever played position close to Efren.
I am sure your point is legit if you were to try and play straight pool on a 7' bar box and congestion has to play a part on 8'ers at times too but I think those huge pockets more than make up for it.
I am sure your point is legit if you were to try and play straight pool on a 7' bar box and congestion has to play a part on 8'ers at times too but I think those huge pockets more than make up for it.
I think the part about "no miss" is confused. He missed the 527th ball. Some might read the above as saying he just put down his stick, which seems (from 50 years later) not to be what happened.Roy Steffensen said:I hate it when I'm wrong....
Here's from Wikipedia:[edit] 526 High Run
Willie set the world record by running 526 consecutive balls without a miss during a straight pool exhibition on March 19, 1954. To this day the record has not been toppled and many speculate it may never be bested. A handwritten and notarized affidavit[6] with the signatures of more than 35 eyewitnesses exists as proof of this feat.
The record was set on a 4 foot x 8 foot Brunswick pool table with 5 1/2 inch pockets at the East High Billiard Club in Springfield, Ohio. However, today's standard for tables is much more difficult to play on than Mosconi's table, as today's standard tables are 9 foot x 4 1/2 foot with 4 1/2 inch pockets. ...
Also, by reports from people who were in that room at the time, including the next owner of the room, the pockets were not all that generous. I doubt that they were 5.5-inches.
And while some feel it is harder to maneuver on a 4x8, I doubt that Mosconi had any problem playing short position on the smaller table. I asked Caras specifically about playing on a smaller table, and he said that top players would only miss because they got tired on a small table.
Dang!
Dang, I thought I was the only one to go into a place and brag about Wally Mosconi teaching me everything he knew. Between that and aiming at points and diamonds when I was practicing I used to have folks lined up three deep with their money out when I wanted to gamble!
(Now they are lined up twelve deep! Something to do with the amazing stroke I have these days.)
Hu
hemicudas said:
Dang, I thought I was the only one to go into a place and brag about Wally Mosconi teaching me everything he knew. Between that and aiming at points and diamonds when I was practicing I used to have folks lined up three deep with their money out when I wanted to gamble!
(Now they are lined up twelve deep! Something to do with the amazing stroke I have these days.)
Hu
ShootingArts said:Dang, I thought I was the only one to go into a place and brag about Wally Mosconi teaching me everything he knew. Between that and aiming at points and diamonds when I was practicing I used to have folks lined up three deep with their money out when I wanted to gamble!
(Now they are lined up twelve deep! Something to do with the amazing stroke I have these days.)
Hu
I used Willie Mascara. So funny to see the double takes sitting at the bar and the quarters starting to line up. All yall's buddy, Tenneco, was one of the first to bite.
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Joe Rogan said:
I thought I'd seen one time someone had posted a for sale ad with a prototype OB-1 cue, butt and shaft. I tried searching and couldn't find it, but I could've sworn I'd seen it here before.
Anyhow, congrats to John...class act and credit to our game.
Don't get too cocky though...I'm coming for you. I only have to get 377 more balls than my current high run to tie you.
unbelievable run!! and even more unbelievable he only got a sponser now!!
i mean!! if u can run 200 you should get a free sponser with it, but 400 and nothing. thats stupid. im sure OB-1 will be hgappy with the new record and they probably already earned there investment back. just by seeing the posts about the butt... if he would have done it with a predator, everyone would be buying predators again
(ps nothing vs ob1 or predator, just wanted to make a point) Im glad for Ob1 and for john and i hope that i'll ever own a video of mascara's record broken.
greats from solly who didnt qualify for the national 14-1 finals this weekend
sad sad solly. i played my best straight ever, but the field was SO hard. i did win vs a top player 60-31, and lost vs the #10 due to a kick on a open table right after the breakshot at 51-56 behind in a presure comeback run of 20+ (my tournament high was 22). MAN!! i would have loved to come back, break my tournament high run and win vs a 58places higher placed player then me. thanks john, for making me feel better with you run
i mean!! if u can run 200 you should get a free sponser with it, but 400 and nothing. thats stupid. im sure OB-1 will be hgappy with the new record and they probably already earned there investment back. just by seeing the posts about the butt... if he would have done it with a predator, everyone would be buying predators again
(ps nothing vs ob1 or predator, just wanted to make a point) Im glad for Ob1 and for john and i hope that i'll ever own a video of mascara's record broken.greats from solly who didnt qualify for the national 14-1 finals this weekend
sad sad solly. i played my best straight ever, but the field was SO hard. i did win vs a top player 60-31, and lost vs the #10 due to a kick on a open table right after the breakshot at 51-56 behind in a presure comeback run of 20+ (my tournament high was 22). MAN!! i would have loved to come back, break my tournament high run and win vs a 58places higher placed player then me. thanks john, for making me feel better with you run
I recall it's been discussed somewhere in SP section, which is tougher - 8 footer or 10 footer? More congestion on smaller table, but on 10 footer every shot is longer, break shots included, position play is harder. So? I assume bigger table is more tough.
Congrats to John Schmidt! That achievement makes me even more sad that I won't have a chance of speaking to you personally in Manila
Congrats to John Schmidt! That achievement makes me even more sad that I won't have a chance of speaking to you personally in Manila
Vahmurka said:I recall it's been discussed somewhere in SP section, which is tougher - 8 footer or 10 footer? More congestion on smaller table, but on 10 footer every shot is longer, break shots included, position play is harder. So? I assume bigger table is more tough.
Congrats to John Schmidt! That achievement makes me even more sad that I won't have a chance of speaking to you personally in Manila
Yes, this topic has been discussed at length in the SP section. I believe that the big difference is with the angle to the pocket in relation the rack position. It is much different than playing on a 9 foot table, and due to the extra space, the angle gets steeper. I have never played 14.1 on a 5 X10, but from what I have heard - those crazy high powered Johnny Ervolino big angle break shots wouldn't have had a prayer on a 10 footer.
Roy Steffensen said:I would think so. But don't forget that german Thomas Engert has 491 balls on a 9 foottable
GO EUROPE
Roy,
Just to let you know that all of that number of balls pocketed didn't help Schmidt when he gambled with Alex playing straight pool some years ago.
Alex whupped John's butt and the irony of it was that Alex don't even play straight pool like Schmidt does. Alex didn't even like the game and yet he rolled over Schmidt who's always touting his whatever number of balls made!!
Bottom line, "show me the cheese, baby!!"
bayawak aka tirador
"No spot for you Roy... You very good player!!"
BVal said:
Bval,
I am an equal opportunity pool player. I give credit where credit is due.I liked Alcano and even put up a small wager, I lost, but I congratulated Shane after their match because I saw that he deserved to win that match. I can appreciate talent when I see it. Shane shot great under pressure and prevailed over a world champion.
So get over it.. I didn't express it so bad. I just said that bottom line, you got to deliver. You just don't want to look good in the gym, right?
Put your money where you mouth is what I am trying to say.
bayawak aka tirador
"You got the 8 for life!!"
BVal said:
Bval,
I am an equal opportunity pool player. I give credit where credit is due.I liked Alcano and even put up a small wager, I lost, but I congratulated Shane after their match because I saw that he deserved to win that match. I can appreciate talent when I see it. Shane shot great under pressure and prevailed over a world champion.
So get over it.. I didn't express it so bad. I just said that bottom line, you got to deliver. You just don't want to look good in the gym, right?
Put your money where your mouth is what I am trying to say.
bayawak aka tirador
"You got the 8 for life!!"
BVal said:
Bval,
I am an equal opportunity pool player. I give credit where credit is due.I liked Alcano and even put up a small wager, I lost, but I congratulated Shane after their match because I saw that he deserved to win that match. I can appreciate talent when I see it. Shane shot great under pressure and prevailed over a world champion.
So get over it.. I didn't express it so bad. I just said that bottom line, you got to deliver. You just don't want to look good in the gym, right?
Put your money where your mouth is what I am trying to say.
bayawak aka tirador
"You got the 8 for life!!"
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Bayawak said:
what was the wager during the match between John and Alex??? and if i can make it to the Derby, and John himself agree's with the game then i will put him in the box myself for a rematch of the game you mentioned if your willing to "put your money where your mouth is" and put up the other side for Alex... im not trying to get into a woofing contest with you but i am interested in seeing a rematch of this game, so as long as its 1000 or 1500 and John and Alex agree to play, then i will "put my money where my mouth is", and even though Alex won the first time its a close game in my opinion, but i like John's end.