Cost of a shaft

acousticsguru

player/instructor
Silver Member
I've actually had the nerve to read through most if not all of this thread, not sure why… So my apology in advance if this has been discussed here and I missed it, but from a customer's perspective, one thing that's always bugged me is that almost no cue maker guarantees against warping, especially not of shafts. I'm not saying this isn't understandable, especially since I'm convinced most shafts warp because people sand them, or clean them with abrasive solutions etc., what I am saying is that would be one good reason to charge more - include a guarantee against warping. I for one would readily pay e.g. $50 extra for a lifetime guarantee, but of course, would then not want to hear any "it's not so crooked as you make it sound" nor "oh, but this one's got extra-detailed collar ring work" etc. kind of excuses. I realize the lack of realism in my rambling, I'm just saying, there are customer-oriented motives for paying more that don't even get touched in this lengthy thread. Plenty spring to mind apart from said ring work (more work = more money - nobody disputes that). There are good reasons, after all, it's not as if a cue maker's reputation ranks highest among those (although, what do I know, maybe I'm just being an old pedantic nag). Paying extra for a shaft with a higher growth-ring count makes sense. Guaranteed seasoned old stock turned down slowly, the kind one rarely sees anymore these days. Etc. & etc. The bottom line, that is mine at least, is that there are people out there willing to pay for quality.

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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flowerpower2016

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
you guys are nuts

You can't be serious. You have been a pretty smart guy & have seen things pretty clearly. But this time I think you might want to open your eyes a little wider. This guy is not doing anything differently than Eddie Wheat or Jeff Eason did. Just like with those guys, it's not the price he charges or the quality of his work that alienates him from the rest. It's his approach. He is reverting to belittling other builders' work in order to promote his. If that's not bad enough, he does it openly in public and then argues & bashes those who disagree with his BS. That's why he's catching flak. And you are defending him?

Regardless, this thread was intended to help me put things into perspective in the way of having a general consensus of shaft costs. It was for my personal purpose. The bickering & self promotional BS wasn't asked for.

how can you say he reverted to belittling other builders work? he clearly was called out first, then he replied , then he got called out again and was bashed for basically not knowing physics, then he finally defended himself. oper your eyes buddy. i know this is late but people will still read it , just like it just did.
 

scdiveteam

Rick Geschrey
Silver Member
Hi,

An old post for sure but the premise is very relevant concerning manners and following forum rules.

In a free society anyone should be able to set a price schedule for their products our services at any basis price they choose. No other cue maker should have a problem with that. It is plain rude behavior to call someone out. When that happens you should consider the source and their motivations. Psychology 101. LOL

The market place will be the judge of the value as will be reflective in the sales or product output into the hands of people who purchase them.

Markets are always right and it is people who are wrong. Cue makers should charge what they feel is appropriate for their product. IMO, it is just bad form for another cue maker to comment or call someone out for their pricing.

Call me silly but people should mind their own business. If someone wants to charge 500.00 for a piece of 3.00 maple and gets it, they are my hero especially if their customers is happy.

Rick
 

GBCues

Damn, still .002 TIR!
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how can you say he reverted to belittling other builders work? he clearly was called out first, then he replied , then he got called out again and was bashed for basically not knowing physics, then he finally defended himself. oper your eyes buddy. i know this is late but people will still read it , just like it just did.

You realize you are responding to an 18-month old post, right?

Gary
 

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Dave38

theemperorhasnoclotheson
Silver Member
how can you say he reverted to belittling other builders work? he clearly was called out first, then he replied , then he got called out again and was bashed for basically not knowing physics, then he finally defended himself. oper your eyes buddy. i know this is late but people will still read it , just like it just did.

have you watched his youtube videos???? he is a self-promoting, and everything else is trash, basher. In His opinion, he's the best and everyone else is below him. In one of the videos, he 'takes' apart an OB shaft and says it's filled with balsa wood. Really??? If one was to believe his hype, and it where all true,... no one would be buying a south west, or a gina cue, nor a preditor, or a Sly, etc..... What I find interesting, is the fact his 'fan base' hasn't overwhelmed us with their glowing reviews of his cues or $300 shafts......only the 3 people in his videos, that in all honesty, look like they did it for drinking money.....No Offence to them meant......enough said.
Dave
 

Dave38

theemperorhasnoclotheson
Silver Member
Couple the above with the fact he has never explained properly, why his shafts are so special,....realistically, it's just a bunch of hot air.... just like his reason for his ringwork not lining up on his $$$$ cues....it wasn't important, I believe he said...
 
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