Counterfeit Kamui Tips- Learn the difference.

In your post to me.
I do not sell to tip fitters or cue makers in Canada and I have contract agreements with all of my distributors to not sell across the boarder
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Then, in another post.
Do you think I import the tips paying with peanuts? come on. Take a look at our weak dollar... How much profit do you think I make after sponsorships and marketing? I only sell the tips to installers and cue makers.
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So, which is it? You don't sell to tip fitters or cue makers in Canada but everyone else is ok?
See, this is one of the reasons that made me decide not to trust nor deal with you on your terms. You're just too wishy washy for my liking.

After our first discussion re Kamui tips on AZ, I had many dealers PMing me offering better deals than you told me that Joel would give me.
I have news for you if you think for one minute that your plan is working.
And if your dealers can't send to Canada, why is it that I can buy Kamui tips from Atlas?


Most have said we are the most expensive tip on the market... We are not. Take a look again.
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Take a look at what? If you are going to make a statement like that, please back it up with proof.


There are several tips more expensive than Kamui out there. For example:

Onyx LTD 24.95

Moori21.95
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Where are you getting your info from. Mooris can be had for $9 any day of the week.
Onyx? Where are you getting that price from, EBay perhaps?
There are prices that you pay and prices that repairmen pay.
Don't try and confuse the two 12oz.

Kamui is the most expensive tip on the market, if they aren't, lets see some proof John.

John, it was you that suggested that I sell Kamui tips to my customers for $50 to offset the increased cost over other tips.
Don't try and deny that statement. I still have the PM that you sent me.

KoinKid, threads get derailed here all the time. The only time you hang out at AZ is to hock your wares and other than that, I have seen you contribute very little to nothing on Az so why should you care about which way a thread is turning.
Oh, I forgot, you are a Kamui dealer so you have suck a little bum.
 
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Blue Hog ridr said:
In your post to me.


Then, in another post.


So, which is it? You don't sell to tip fitters or cue makers in Canada but everyone else is ok?

After our first discussion re Kamui tips on AZ, I had many dealers PMing me offering better deals than you told me that Joel would give me.
I have news for you if you think for one minute that your plan is working.
And if your dealers can't send to Canada, why is it that I can buy Kamui tips from Atlas?




Take a look at what? If you are going to make a statement like that, please back it up with proof.




Where are you getting your info from. Mooris can be had for $9 any day of the week.
Onyx? Where are you getting that price from, EBay perhaps?
There are prices that you pay and prices that repairmen pay.
Don't try and confuse the two 12oz.

Kamui is the most expensive tip on the market, if they aren't, lets see some proof John.

John, it was you that suggested that I sell Kamui tips to my customers for $50 to offset the increased cost over other tips.

KoinKid, threads get derailed here all the time. The only time you hang out at AZ is to hock your wares and other than that, I have seen you contribute very little to nothing on Az so why should you care about which way a thread is turning.
Oh, I forgot, you are a Kamui dealer so you have suck a little bum.
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Kinda hard to argue with this. Well put bro.

Joe
 
Kamuitipsdotcom said:
Roadie,
I have held prices from increasing for 8 months hoping the economy would come back around.

In 2009 when I locked in the deal the yen and the dollar were equal.
Which means 19.75 is 1975 yen. Today, 1975Yen is $25.75.

This all means when I buy, My dollar is weak to the yen... not worth as much. This means that the factory, the employees, will not survive.

NO MORE OFF TOPIC.. THIS THREAD IS FOR COUNTERFEIT DISCUSSION.
If you want to talk to me about pricing and what ever call me. or PM or email.

THANK YOU!
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Can we put you on record then for saying if the dollar gets stronger relative to 2009 that the prices should go down?

The other point is, I think all the discussion should be welcomed. Public forums aren't one way streets where you can advertise and get exaclty what you want, yet don't get negative feedback. There are benefits and drawbacks, as it should be. You should expect this if posting publicly IMO.
 
risky biz said:
Originally Posted by risky biz:
Do you and "Roadie" really, really believe that government policy doesn't have economic effects? "Roadie" is issuing recommended reading but I really kinda think he should take his own advice.



You're mixing intra-economic and inter-economic together. Japan has a central bank separate from the US central bank. Your intra-economy comments are largely irrelevant.



It isn't a question of good or bad. It's a question of exchange rates. US Government policy is the primary cause of our historically weak dollar. That, in itself, doesn't mean that the policy is good or bad but it is a succinct explanation of why foreign goods have upward pressure on their pricing.



You need to make up your mind whether government policy has a primary economic effect or doesn't have a primary economic effect. You can't have it both ways in the same post.



All he's doing is explaining why you might have to pay more for his product at his chosen profit margin. If you don't like the price don't buy the product.

The last sentence is totally, 100% incorrect.

Additionally, you should take some serious account of the fact that Adam Smith wrote 'Wealth of Nations' before central banks ever dreamed of being as monetarily interventionist as they now are and fiscal policy (government spending) wasn't one of the primary economic spigots that it is now. Even in the 40's and 50's, when Hazlitt was writing, massive government policy intervention in the economy was limited to wartime periods.

You're spouting off a bunch of economic anecdotes that might, in and of themselves, be true, but which have nothing to do with the simple truth that the Kamui guy is telling you.
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I will defer to your obvious expertise and concede that the US government is responsible for the rising cost of Kamui tips.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
In your post to me.


Then, in another post.


So, which is it? You don't sell to tip fitters or cue makers in Canada but everyone else is ok?
See, this is one of the reasons that made me decide not to trust nor deal with you on your terms. You're just too wishy washy for my liking.

After our first discussion re Kamui tips on AZ, I had many dealers PMing me offering better deals than you told me that Joel would give me.
I have news for you if you think for one minute that your plan is working.
And if your dealers can't send to Canada, why is it that I can buy Kamui tips from Atlas?




Take a look at what? If you are going to make a statement like that, please back it up with proof.




Where are you getting your info from. Mooris can be had for $9 any day of the week.
Onyx? Where are you getting that price from, EBay perhaps?
There are prices that you pay and prices that repairmen pay.
Don't try and confuse the two 12oz.

Kamui is the most expensive tip on the market, if they aren't, lets see some proof John.

John, it was you that suggested that I sell Kamui tips to my customers for $50 to offset the increased cost over other tips.
Don't try and deny that statement. I still have the PM that you sent me.

KoinKid, threads get derailed here all the time. The only time you hang out at AZ is to hock your wares and other than that, I have seen you contribute very little to nothing on Az so why should you care about which way a thread is turning.
Oh, I forgot, you are a Kamui dealer so you have suck a little bum.
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You are an excellent word contortionist.
Let me try and straighten your words.
I sell my tips that I import to tip installers and cue makers in the USA.
I do not sell to tip installers and cue makers in Canada. I only supply the 3 distributors in Canada.

It looks like you are not a loyal Canadian... You will not support your local economy.. Which is fine we can use the help!

O and BTW... Try and buy from ATLAS and have it shipped to Canada.. Will not happen.

I am glad you get the lowest prices anywhere else.. Great for you.

At the time we talked the USD was weaker than the CAD. And still is. BUT Canada imposes ridiculous duty fees. That is the cost of doing business I guess.

My job when you approached me was to refer you to your Canadian distributor. I did my job and you did not like it.

YES I did "SUGGEST" you charge more... SUGGEST. How you run your business with your customers is your business.

As for contributions... Should I burn all my time on AZ? I spend enough time working hard to grow a reputable brand that makes a high quality product. Please forgive me for not saluting the new AZ COP.

ATTENTION ALL, We have a new COP in town judging who contributes or not!

I am done with this... This is what I get for working hard for you?

It is the "what's in it for me" mentality.

What have you done for billiards?
 
government cause

With 2 series of quantitative easing by the fed which is equal to printing excess dollars you devalue the dollar which makes it weaker versus other currencies thus the government does cause price increaes in the price of imported goods.
 
quadrary said:
With 2 series of quantitative easing by the fed which is equal to printing excess dollars you devalue the dollar which makes it weaker versus other currencies thus the government does cause price increaes in the price of imported goods.
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Almost everyone knows that. : ) Even some people who already read 'Roadies" recommended book list.
 
risky biz said:
I never said that but you can pretend that I did if you like.
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Did I quote you? No, I did not. My comment was in reference to the idea that we should blame the government for the rise in prices of tips. This point was the reason for the offshoot in the conversation. Cleary economics is your stronger suit. Thank you for the lesson.
 
quadrary said:
With 2 series of quantitative easing by the fed which is equal to printing excess dollars you devalue the dollar which makes it weaker versus other currencies thus the government does cause price increaes in the price of imported goods.
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Thank you. It is correct that the cost of goods can go up for importers based on the weaker exchange rate. However that does not translate necessarily to higher retail prices. The importer must decide whether to raise prices to protect their margins along with each link in the chain all the way to the consumer. Anyone along that link can decide to forgo some percentage of profit in order to stay competitive in price.

If the exchange rate is affected solely due to government intervention then I agree that the government could be "blamed" as the reason for implementing a price increase.
 
Tips

I'm playing with a black SS Kamui tip for 3 months, and what i can remember, it had only the word "glue" in one side and the logo in white in the other side.Is this the real one?
 
I ordered a new Black soft in June from Seyberts and I swear it looked just like the counterfeit one in the pic.
 
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