CSI banned me from BCA state tournament due to a google review
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And I thought Tipping was City in China?
you ever work in restaurant/club? apparently not because you don't know jack shit. As usual. Most(ALL??) servers are paid a small wage with the bulk of their pay from TIPS. Just based on what you just spewed i'm sure you're a lousy tipper. And yes servers have good memories and better tippers, unlike you, get better service.
You’re partially right, but there are people who are waiters, and waitress. Who work hard at CUSTOMER SERVICE.
They know their establishment Menu, how everything is cooked, etc.
Most have time on the job, and make good TIPS because their job is a profession.
Then you have SERVERS, who for most part can write an order. But if you ask a question about a menu item, they don’t know, and don’t care.
Back long ago the guy who Shined my Dress Shoes was a Professional.
He work hard at making my shoe look great. He was at his Stand early, work late. Had a clientele who Tipped him because he did what he did great.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I agree, but...
All I know is if my water glass sits empty for the entire meal and I see the waiter/waitress playing on their phone and chatting with coworkers, they ain't getting jack from me. I don't ask much. Take my order, bring my food, be at least slightly pleasant, but please refill my drink within a reasonable time frame. I don't mean refill it in 30 seconds, but if it sets empty for 20 minutes that starts to bother me.
Now in the "old days"
like the 80s-2000s before cell phones most of the time you could at least get a water or soda refill while eating. Nowadays, some just stare at their phone.There are good staff and they get tips, often what I'd consider good tips. If they suck I ain't giving them jack. The people that do a good job get the tip that was going to go to the one that did a bad job. Also I realize that people can be going through stuff. They can be overwhelmed because a coworker called in or it's busy. I'm not talking circumstances like that, I'll tip, but when I see them staring at their phone and picking their ass crack that's a different story.
But what about when you asked him if he knows or cares about The Shining?
Could he explain that?
I agree, but...
All I know is if my water glass sits empty for the entire meal and I see the waiter/waitress playing on their phone and chatting with coworkers, they ain't getting jack from me. I don't ask much. Take my order, bring my food, be at least slightly pleasant, but please refill my drink within a reasonable time frame. I don't mean refill it in 30 seconds, but if it sets empty for 20 minutes that starts to bother me.
Now in the "old days"
There are good staff and they get tips, often what I'd consider good tips. If they suck I ain't giving them jack. The people that do a good job get the tip that was going to go to the one that did a bad job. Also I realize that people can be going through stuff. They can be overwhelmed because a coworker called in or it's busy. I'm not talking circumstances like that, I'll tip, but when I see them staring at their phone and picking their ass crack that's a different story.
IMHO a Tip is not an entitlement, it is some like a reward for out of the reward services, or a job well done. Sort of like working in a business, that pays a Bonus, you might get as Bonus if your employer has record sale for month, quarter, or year end.
Friend use to work for Amazon, he work in Center that processed returns. Everyone had a quota that was expected, if you did not do quota, your reward was being fired. Then if you reach other set quota, there were three levels of Bonuses you could quality for with production. Then one day this Senator From Vermont, BS Bernie, told Amazon they needed pay a living wage. Everyone in my buddies Center was given a raise to $15.00/Hour.
Many of the people who were earning all three Bonus at the Amazon Center my friend worked, got a big surprise. My friend said he lost about $400.00/month extra Bonus income. Thanks to Bernie Sanders bright idea.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
It's an excuse. If Amazon wanted to continue to pay your friend the extra $400, they could have set up a bonus system even with an hourly wage to encourage better performance. I get paid a set hourly amount, but if our company has a good quarter I get a bonus. It's based on input hours worked in a year. Work more hours, you get more money. There is a certain threshold that you have to work to qualify, I forget what it is, but if someone is on a long medical leave or something and doesn't have the required input hours they don't get the bonus.
Amazon not matching his wages before the change is just them being cheapskates. It's dumb on Amazon's part to not have an incentive system even if it saves them money in the short term it means only a complete idiot would go above and beyond for the same pay.
EDIT: Oh yeah, also wanted to add, $15 an hour is nowhere close to a living wage.
Bad service= bad tip. We went to fancy joint yrs ago and our waiter was a pure jackass. Our bill was like 3-400 and we left that tool 20bux. He actually followed us out to our car and asked why. My buddy told him he was a shitty waiter and to go the fk away. Pretty funny. A good tip is not automatic. If the service sux so does the tip. I've given spiffy tips on cheap breakfasts just because the waitress was good and my coffee stayed full.
Besides the Bonuses going away, Matt told me they lost some employee discounts, and healthcare cost increased. My joke about working at Amazon is they never Fire anyone, Slaves have be sold. One of the problem when companies go to being publicly traded, profit & dividends on stock become more important then the people who do most of the grunt work.
Well no crap, they are a business, not a charity.
Businesses are there for the purpose of making money. They, like everybody else including you and I who have ever had jobs or businesses, want to make as much as they can in exchange for their labor and ideas. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Charities, on the other hand, are for the purposes of helping out others without regard for your own profits. Nobody has a right to expect that anybody else should have to be a charity though if they don't want to. Now we do of course have a right to expect that any business operates legally and ethically, but we don't have a right to expect people to take less money than they could have made so that they can give the rest of it away to others for the hell of it. Yet here sits CocoboloCowboy expecting CSI to act like a charity and do just that.
The nice thing about charities though is that anybody, including you, can do one. You want to see league players make more money or get more value from a league than what they can get from CSI and the others? Then start one that does that for them. Done. Problem solved. Easy as that.
Wait, what's that you say again? Oh, so you don't want to do it because you don't want to be the one giving your labor away for less than it is worth, you just want everybody else to be giving their labor away for less than what it is worth. Got it. Funny how that always works.
No they can't. That $400 that was previously going to the guy who who had earned it by excelling at his job is now gone because it is now going to some crappy employee to be able to get that person's wage up to the $15 an hour that became required but that they weren't worth.
Like the bulk of what liberals do, it was just another form of socialism, just another way to redistribute money away from the deserving who had earned it through merit, and giving it as a handout to others who had done nothing to earn or deserve it, and they do it simply because they can't stand to see someone doing much better than someone else even when it is justified.
So what. People shouldn't be paid more than they are worth, and you are only worth what someone will voluntarily pay you without coercion being involved. You are also never worth more than X amount if they can fairly easily go find somebody else to do your job equally as well for X amount or less money. Apparently there was no shortage of people who could do the job well enough for less than $15 and hour, and since that was the case, Amazon should never voluntarily pay $15 an hour for that position nor should they ever be required to.
If your wage is not a living wage the only real justifiable reason for that is because you are a very young person who is just entering the job market and has very minimal skills (which you should very quickly gain though). At that age you don't yet even need a living wage though so it works out fine, and if for some reason you do then you just live with five other roommates in a house for a bit until you can increase your skills so you can get paid more just like young people have always done.
If your wage is not a living wage and you are not a young person any more it can really only be because you have either been incredibly irresponsible, and/or you are just lazy and didn't/don't want to make the effort to better yourself and your abilities so that you can earn a living wage.
If it is because you have been incredibly irresponsible, A) you need to fix that problem immediately, and B) that is your problem, not anybody else's, and now you are reaping exactly what you sowed. Go beg from whatever suckers you can convince to voluntarily support you if need be, but nobody should be forced to have to help support you (including through tax dollars or by raising minimum wages) when your poor choices were the problem.
If it is because you are lazy, either stop being lazy and start doing everything in your power (like lots of studying/training every evening if need be) to make yourself more highly employable so you can get paid that living wage that is within your potential, or you can starve to death as far as I am concerned, but again, nobody should be forced to have to support you when you and your laziness are the problem.
If you are above the age of 22 and can't earn more than $15 an hour in most of the country, you have seriously failed yourself and it is your fault, and your problem, and at no time should anybody be paying you or be forced to pay you $15 an hour or any other amount that is not justified both by your skills and the availability of similar skills in the market.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
Honestly, you're going to argue that paying people $15 an hour is going to cause Amazon to not be able to give a $400 bonus to some super worker? That's ludicrous. I wouldn't even get out of bed for $15 an hour, and they were paying people less than that. Amazon... ever guess how much money they make? Sure, it makes a good excuse to not pay a bonus, but that's on them. Super worker didn't get his money taken from regular worker, "socialism"
or Sanders, he got it taken because Amazon gets theirs and screw the peasants. They have more than enough to pay "super worker" $400 extra on every check, or whatever to make his new checks compare directly to the old ones.You say it's for young people, this might be somewhat true, you should always strive to better yourself and get a better job if/when you have the skills. Some people don't, and for a variety of reasons besides laziness. I'm guessing Amazon doesn't employee mainly high school students or college students. Hell, they might want to have ICE look into it.
I agree, socialism is bad, except when it isn't. Communism is bad in general, but socialism can be alright. It gives us fire departments, public schools, libraries, medical care for the old and weak in our society, national/state parks, etc. If you or anyone you know uses medicare or ever borrowed a book from the library you should feel deep shame, at least according to your outlook.
As far as money I work and I get mine. I was raised to be my own man, not make excuses, and get that bread. That doesn't mean I can't see obvious problems, like adult dominated jobs that pay $7.50 an hour. That isn't a living wage and minimum wage implies you can survive off that. Shame on any large company that pays that little, they don't deserve to be in this country. Sure, if you own a mom and pop store that's different, I'm not talking your businesses with 100 employees, but if you make just at $638 BILLION a year and don't pay your workers enough to live, shame on you.
I don't have anything against you and I do respect you and your opinions, but hearing this does lead me to wonder if you have a good method of getting the taste of boots out of your mouth?
Yah learn what your taught, and by whom.
Right and that is their mission making money off of Pool & P)layer who do their events. They are also one of the people in Pool who cry "SUPPORT POOL", but CSI is not my favorite Charity, like Mark Griffin's old BCAPL. Never did any of their event, as cost and expenses did not potential for return on those costs.
Like I said if IMHO being Banned by CSI is their right, but sure would not effect my life. Maybe you should wear the BAN like Badge of Honor.
I said that money was forced to be redistributed in a new way since Amazon now had to take that bonus money that went to the great employees who deserved it, and now it is having to be used to get the crappy employees up to the $15/hr that they never deserved but which has now become mandatory. I never said Amazon couldn't dip further into their pockets to come up with additional new monies in order to be able to keep paying those previous bonuses, but they shouldn't have to (because there should have never been that forced minimum wage increase), nor should they probably do it either (because that was exactly the whole purpose for why libs did it to begin with, to hurt the "big guys" like Amazon and help the "little guys" like the undeserving crappy employees, and when you give in to that kind of shakedown libs will just start doing it everywhere else as well as keep re-raising it to $18 then $22 then $30 etc.
Why should you pay people $15/hr if they are only worth say $8/hr and when there are thousands of other people perfectly capable of doing the job wanting to take that same job for $8/hr? That's the important question here that I have never seen anybody be able to answer, but I will be awaiting your response. You should pay people what they/the position are worth, nothing more, nothing less, and how much money you have, or how much money a "living wage" would be, is absolutely, totally, and completely immaterial. If a person can't make it on whatever income their skills can provide them then it is time to either make a massive, massive effort to improve your skills, or live with a bunch of roommates where it can be made to work out.
They have actually spent most of their existence losing money or breaking even. Even just three years ago they took a big loss. Yes, they have also had a few good years recently but why should that matter? What does how much money you have, have to do with how much you should pay for something? Should people that have a lot of money have to pay $100 a gallon for milk when they go to the grocery store, and should the people that have a decent amount of money have to pay $50 a gallon for that same gallon of milk, and should the poorer people only have to pay $2 for that gallon? Of course not. Things are worth whatever they are worth and it has nothing whatsoever to do with how much money the paying party has.
And so it is with jobs, they are only worth what they are worth, and how much the company has/makes is completely immaterial. Nobody should pay any employee more than the person/position are worth, and they definitely aren't worth more if there are a billion other people who would be willing to do the same job just as well for the same amount.
That isn't socialism, at least not of the type that we are all talking about when we use that word. In its common American usage Socialism is, at its core, taking from those who have more through various means, and redistributing it to those who have less (or otherwise trying to more equalize the quality of their lives in some other way), done because you don't like the disparity in how well one person or group does in comparison to others, and not done in a way that is according to merit. That kind of socialism is bad, always, and that minimum wage increase that libs forced on Amazon was, and was intended to be (that was its sole purpose in fact), socialist redistribution of monies.
If that is all the person and job is worth, and there are other people waiting in line to do that job just as well for the $7.50/hr, why should you pay more? Again, I still have yet to see anybody be able to answer this question with anything other than "because I would like to see them get it" which isn't a justification.
Living wage is immaterial to what you and a job are worth, and there probably shouldn't even be a minimum wage at all for the same obvious reasons, but there certainly shouldn't be some stupid $15 or more minimum for flipping burgers. It's not about what you "need"/want, it is about what you are worth.
Again, how much money you have should have zero to do with how much you should pay. A person and job are worth what they are worth and it has nothing to do with who the employer is or how much they do or don't have. And not that it matters in the least, but last year Amazon didn't even make one tenth of the 638 billion that you are claiming they made.
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Not a CSI fanboy by any means BUT they work on a franchise system and each CSI league operator can pretty much run it as he pleases, to a point. I've heard of really bad incidents where CSI hq had to step in to calm the situation down. Most(all?) people that sign up for a league never look at the structure or how the $$ gets whacked up, they just want to play. BTW, CSI BCA fees are only like $20/yr, the fee's you pay each week are set/controlled by the local oper.
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
Enough is enough. The price of speaking freely is the taking what you get dealt back. If you can't roll with 'em, don't step through the ropes.
Amaz. revenue in '24 was 638bill, net income was 59bill. That's twice what they made in '23. That's a lotta deliveries.