This is pretty much exactly like going into a for sale thread and saying:
"Your XYZ item is a POS!!! My god!! The HORROR!!! Who on earth would ever be stupid enough to ever consider buying that junk?!?!?!"
In other words not only is it showing your ass in public it shows that your need to show how smart you are outweighs all forms of common courtesy. If you seriously wanted to help an industry leader improve their listing all it would of taken is a simple PM. But we all know that wasn't it. It was all about you explaining how much more you know than the next guy.
It's a very good thing you donk with computers for a living because your understanding of how to deal with people sucks.
To steer at least back in the general direction of the topic I know and work with everyone in the CSI office. I'm there several times a week and it is a nice place to work. Laid back, comfortable and the staff are all good people. The main thread running through the whole place is pretty much every person there is a pool nut. If you want to work in the pool industry and have the skills needed for this position I would urge you to contact them. There is always something going on and it is great environment to work in with a lot of freedom to express your ideas and input.
I don't know anything about how to list a job or what everyone else does but I do the people who are offering this and they are good to go.
Justin:
Spot on. I have to agree that Jasen had no reason to "go off" other than to try and show how much better he is than everyone else.
And for someone who says:
1.
"You're not listing a salary range... Major turn-off for people in my industry, just saying. Typically the only companies that don't put salary ranges will want to under-pay."
Oh really? I'm in "your" industry as well, and that's not the reason why salaries aren't listed in such a public notice. The real reason is to open the door to NEGOTIATION. They are looking for someone that has "these desired" credentials, but are open to making some concessions here and there to folks that "mostly fit" the profile of this ideal candidate. If they listed a salary, that pretty much locks it up -- you either have these credentials or you don't.
2.
"w/e, constructive comments ignored by stone age company. Gotcha..."
If this is not an outright slam (and one that wasn't deserved), I don't know what is. Sounds like the poster has an axe to grind.
3.
"Was keeping it to myself anyways, I'm happily employed by a much larger company at a much higher position."
With the responses by this poster thus far, this boast is suspect. If this poster had such a "much higher position," where is his REQUIRED people skills for that "much higher position"? The "much larger company" is probably correct though -- from the obvious chip on the shoulder, it's probably a sweat shop environment. Now *that* is conjecture.
4.
"I don't have any respect for people whose ego is so large that they can't take constructive advice from someone."
The irony drips in buckets.
5.
"#2: _FAX_ a resume to the _IT_ manager... For those that don't know: IT = hardware, IS = software. FAX = old tech that noone uses... So we're looking for a 'visionary' web developer by having them FAX things to a hardware manager... makes perfect sense?"
Coming from someone who is SOLELY focused on "what's the newest/bestest/fastest/fartiest tech out there... oh my gosh, I have to have that" perspective, this makes sense. But from a knowledge of what's actually being used
in production in the marketplace, it doesn't. FAX is still very much used for sensitive information where the desire is to keep the transmission "out of band" from public transmission mediums like the Internet. Are CVs/resumes sensitive? Yes, they can be -- especially if they detail such things as certain security clearances with what levels and types of information that person was entrusted with (and *that* is sensitive info).
6.
"#3: DotNetNuke is a _FREE_ very old CMS (Content Management System). Further reinforcing that they are cheapskates _AND_ that they are nowhere near the bleeding edge of technology. But they certainly want visionaries when they crap all over a very logical suggestion to get themselves good applicants..."
This displays a complete lack of knowledge of how production systems in the real world work. Most of the production systems out there are based on OLD TECHNOLOGY. And yes, possibly even free/open-source technology that is on the wobbling edge of "about to be unsupported" status. Most companies can't move as fast as technology is changing. Especially small shops (like CSI) who don't have a large IT dept with droves of personnel working around the clock to roll-out new technologies to keep up with the Joneses. As an information security consultant who wears many hats (e.g. Cisco-certified, Oracle/Sun-certified, several others), I deal with this stuff every day. It's easy to sit back and slam a company in an audit report that I just did about "why they failed" the audit because they have unsupported or about-to-be-unsupported sh*t. Most companies know they're going to fail an audit before it even begins. Rather, these companies are more interested in folks (like myself) that can offer them value right there in the report on they can get from point A to point B -- meaning, the report leads into a Statement of Work for *me*.
7.
"A simple post was made... and I didn't show my ass until some grumpy old geezer opened his mouth... which I bet he wouldn't do somewhere other than behind the safety of a keyboard."
There's those people skills again -- a required component for that "much higher position."
8.
"It's a very good thing you know all of the business ventures of which I am involved. Also great how you can assume so much about my personality from a provoked response."
It doesn't take much to see an obvious lack of people skills. And, "provoked response"? For someone in a "much higher position," that was sure easy to elicit such an undeserved response like that, for someone that should've been used to dealing with all kinds of situations.
9.
"So your opinion is biased... and furthermore, I'd LOVE to work in the pool industry, just not enough to take crappy pay, step down a few levels, and put up with holier-than-thou management that knows all."
Wow, let's take that one in pieces, shall we? 1.) The irony behind "so your opinion is biased" is so thick, it can be cut with a knife; 2.) we are all captains of our own ship -- if you want to work in the pool industry, but have specific requirements, that can be worked out. That was the whole point of not listing a salary, because that stuff is NEGOTIABLE. 3.) the stuff about crappy pay, stepping down a few levels
(based on the lack of people skills thus far, that statement is certainly suspect), and "putting up with holier than thou management that knows all" -- those there are some really incredible ASSUMPTIONS that, just by the way they're stated, probably have more to do with pent-up anger than they do with CSI. How in the world does the poster know *anything* about the management of CSI to be able to categorize them as "holier than thou, and thinks they know it all"? Either there are some unspoken sour grapes there, or else it's that pent-up anger venting out. Oh, and again, where are those people skills required for such a "much higher position, that would have to drop down a few levels to take a job such as this"?
Speaking for myself, I'd love to work with/for CSI. But I'm most likely not a fit -- I'm a CCIE-level network, UNIX sysadmin, and information security consultant who has occasional programming experience (mostly with Perl, Ruby, and Python). But certainly not enough to wear a "web development" hat right out of the chute.
-Sean
P.S. to Holly and Mark: in my travels as a consultant, I'll keep my eyes and ears peeled for someone that I think would fit your posted job description. I run into a lot of open-source guys, so I'm sure I'll bump into a DNN guy sometime.
I appreciate that...although you might find my most recent comment a little unusual for me, but out of all the threads that I would have imagined someone taking on attack mode...this thread would not have been one. Most people on the forums are decent folk...occassionally as you know there is always that dude or dude-ette at the party that everyone breathes a sigh of relief when they walk out the door 
