For being triple smart and all, you sure are a glutton for punishment....
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For being triple smart and all, you sure are a glutton for punishment....
Uncle Watchez is the teacher bro, recognize.
The 20 people ? Maybe you should trade your watchez in for calculators the first poll that excluded (how it was handled ) showed 47% in disagreement ,, and Mark had over 700 emails ,, which I suspect where not all telling him how great the event was
The fact that it took so long to offer a response only let things fester no damage control was taken so of course on a open discussion forum your going to get people expressing their views ,, just because you don't like how it was handled doesn't make you a hater ,
I don't like many things my kids do , I don't hate them
His response and admitted mistakes still lacks in substance but at least it's something
The event all in all was a great success aside from a few glitches
I'm assuming watchez is your real name since you would never hide behind the screen name
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The above statement in RED does it for me!
we have his word that:
#1: "Corrective Measures" are being taken
#2: Acknowledgement that "We did make an Error"
If Mark says it was an error in some way, shape form or fashion! Why are there still some who insist it was 100% correct thing to do and implemented correctly. Just holding on tight with reckless abandon despite the insiders acknowledgment of an "Error" ???
not to say that the decision to have a FILLER/replacement match was an error. just that the way this was implemented had some errors.
KD
RBC
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I think Mark mentioned that there "was" an error, and did not go into what "it" was. You may find that what you think "it" was is different than what Mark if referring to.
I'm just amazed at how many people jump to so many conclusions and cast such crazy theory as though it is fact. Especially when Mark, in pretty much every post he's made in the last several years, asks people to call him. He welcomes anyone to call and ask if they have something they don't understand. All they have to do is ask and he will tell them. I spoke to Mark at the event, so I know what his position is on the things I asked about.
But instead of anyone reaching out to Mark with their questions, they come on here and spread speculation. It turns into a feeding frenzy all based on conjecture and speculation.
I know Mark and I know he doesn't fit all the wild and crazy accusations that people have made.
Royce
takeitdown
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Hindsight can be 20/20. We made a decision. We will explain why we made the decision. We stand by the decision. In the process, we did make an error and corrective measures are in motion. We will own up to that – but I don’t expect it to make any difference to the haters. It is beyond my comprehension to understand what drives these people. Do we make mistakes – yes. I guess we should do nothing and the possibility of future mistakes would be eliminated.
I almost didn't see this in your letter. What error did you make? What corrective actions will you take to right the man who was damaged by your mistake? I think these are the 2 answers people are looking for. Not your belittling of us who disagree with what happened.
I almost didn't see this in your letter. What error did you make? What corrective actions will you take to right the man who was damaged by your mistake? I think these are the 2 answers people are looking for. Not your belittling of us who disagree with what happened.
takeitdown
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Hey great minds think alike KD. I guess true logic has no place here. All this really doesn't matter too much anyway. I mean if I ran a business I would have done it differently, but I am not dependent on pool to eat so it really doesn't matter what the important people decide.
I am not speculating about the error! He indicated the error was significant enough for "corrective measures ".
It is the Restoration process he is undertaking.
1st public opinion
2nd policies and procedures
3rd mending business relationships
I care only that the American pool community image is untarnished by the events and if he says "corrective actions" are necessary then the exact details of the "error" is irrelevant.
Kd
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I had a great time and enjoyed every minute. There were pro matches on the big screens and on every room TV every second of the event. Having been there from before the first table was loaded in to after they were almost out and being right at the tournament desk I am still impressed with the magnitude of this event and what it takes to pull it off.
Right in the middle of a huge amateur event the pros were playing and made accessible to the fans. I heard from a lot of amateurs how getting to spend time with a pro was the highlight of their trip.
Will there be hiccups from time to time? Of course there will be when you have this much going on. But imagine that none of this existed and those of us that have been fortunate enough to experience these events will know how much of a loss it is to not have them.
Right in the middle of a huge amateur event the pros were playing and made accessible to the fans. I heard from a lot of amateurs how getting to spend time with a pro was the highlight of their trip.
Will there be hiccups from time to time? Of course there will be when you have this much going on. But imagine that none of this existed and those of us that have been fortunate enough to experience these events will know how much of a loss it is to not have them.
The frenzy is a product of the lack of immediate response. Everyone is so damn impatient and cynical that if a "public" person doesn't issue a response immediately, "they must have something to hide" or they're busy "coming up with their story." The idea that people step back and consider things before speaking is anathema these days.
Erm, you've been speculating constantly for days. IMO when Mark writes about people on this board speculating and making false assumptions, he is talking about you and 2 or 3 other members. How about you stop responding to these threads, you're doing pool a disservice.
God post Mike, to error is human, which we all know first hand, but it's the procedural process one takes to correct or lessen the error is what counts most. It's all about how things end, and less about all the other stuff.
Say hello to your dad for me, thx.
Bill Incardona
Im sure no rule was originally written because most people dont quit in the middle of a major tournament when they are doing well, especially in a different format that isnt double or single elimination from the start. Double or Single elimination, its not hard or controversial in the handling of it. Ralf just happened to quit at the most awkward time in this format.
Its just something that doesnt happen and therefore not forseen.
The way I see it Mark & CSI are a private business, and really have ZERO obligation to defend their actions to anyone. It is their Pool, their Party, and they are free to do as they wish.
The Keyboard Commandos who want to take sides in their drama, be they Pro Mark 0r Anti Mark. Are free to do so, but I am sure they will not have much influence over Mark.
Also Mark is under no obligation to answer to anyone for his actions. I totally understand him not want to make replies to ANONYMOUS people who many are unknown totally except by a Forum ID NAME, or Handle.
Mark’s post show he has class, and if you want to express your opinion directly to Mark via phone, letter, or e-mail sign with a real name, and real contact information. I am sure you have a good chance of hearing back from Mark.
But like I said the event in question, where the incident happen was under Mark’s & CSI’s Umbrella. It was their Event, Game, or Party. So they could do as they wished when the incident happened to deal with said incident.
I am sure no matter how Mark handles incidents like this in the future, not everyone will be happy with Mark, but that not a bad thing. But like I said Mark was paying the bills, running the event, doing all the before, and after event leg work. So it was his baby to do with as he choose.
BTW I gave Mark GREEN for his post.
The Keyboard Commandos who want to take sides in their drama, be they Pro Mark 0r Anti Mark. Are free to do so, but I am sure they will not have much influence over Mark.
Also Mark is under no obligation to answer to anyone for his actions. I totally understand him not want to make replies to ANONYMOUS people who many are unknown totally except by a Forum ID NAME, or Handle.
Mark’s post show he has class, and if you want to express your opinion directly to Mark via phone, letter, or e-mail sign with a real name, and real contact information. I am sure you have a good chance of hearing back from Mark.
But like I said the event in question, where the incident happen was under Mark’s & CSI’s Umbrella. It was their Event, Game, or Party. So they could do as they wished when the incident happened to deal with said incident.
I am sure no matter how Mark handles incidents like this in the future, not everyone will be happy with Mark, but that not a bad thing. But like I said Mark was paying the bills, running the event, doing all the before, and after event leg work. So it was his baby to do with as he choose.
BTW I gave Mark GREEN for his post.
The only "error" that comes to mind is paying Ralf. He bails on me he does not get a red cent. "Corrective Measures" might include not extending another invite to Souquet to a CSI event.
Lou Figueroa
but that's just me
I totally agree John!
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