You already asked me that and I already answered it .
CTE automatically corrects stroke issues
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When did I ask that? And why can’t you just answer it now. Lol.
But I’ll tell you why you are wrong in your assumption. First looking at the contact point is a comfort thing. Second knowing where the contact point is helps to pick out the proper perception lines along with the proper sweep direction.
Ok, where in the two DVD can I find that?
And you are disagreeing with Hal and Stan.
It’s not in the dvd and I am not disagreeing with anyone but you. I gave a logical explanation for why a CTE user would look at the contact point from my personal experience. All you have is an assumption.
Yes, you are disagreeing with Hal and Stan. You really need to watch more videos.
Two dvd's and it was not even discussed. You gotta thank the knockers for bringing it up.
I am not disagreeing with either of them. I agree it’s not part of the teachings of CTE but knowing where the contact points are is a useful tool to use with CTE for the reasons I stated above.
Yes, you are .
That is until the next service pack.
If you use the contact point as reference or tool, it would make explaining the whole process a lot easier .
Then again, if you use the contact point as reference, the opposite of that contact point on the ob is where you line up the cue ball.
Why bother with ABC's and all these eye tricks and pivoting?
Again no I’m not.
You use the abc’s because that makes your aiming exact. Don’t know much about eye tricks and I no longer do a manual pivot.
I have just done a search and don't see the level of attacks that you and others are perpetrating against CTE and Stan.
However if you want the latest information on Ekkes' aiming methods you can find it here,
Infinite Billiards – SAMBA
www.infinite-billiards.com
Yeah if you can get whatever success you want from some other method then use that.
Which point on this sphere is the contact point?
We can do a little experiment, I won't ask you to bet because I know you won't anyway. You won't even do this experiment but I will outline it anyway.
I will setup a bunch of shots. Using a laser inside of box I will put it right on the spot which would be the ghost ball contact point as determined by lining it up through the pocket.
Using a second laser that is not on we will tape an part of a shaft to it which is directly over the center of the beam.
Your task is to position the laser/shaft pointing directly at the contact point from behind the cue ball. When you have it positioned we turn the laser on and note where it is illuminating the object ball.
Then we turn on the laser in the box and see if the two beams meet at the contact point. If yours is not exact we will put up a ghost ball at the place that your beam hits the ball and determine if it would still work to make the ball or not.
How accurate do you think you would be in this test.
Then we can run the test using CTE and see whether the line chosen is in line with the ghost ball.
I am going to guess that you would struggle to have a 50% success rate of identifying and holding the contact point accurately.
And a good cte user will have a success rate much higher than that in my opinion. I want to say that it will be 90% or better on average.
Contact point aiming is just feel. If you choose to use equal/overlap then it's enhanced feel. We can run it again where you use equal overlap and test against the ghost ball center.
I am positive that any proficient user of objective aiming methods will score much higher than you will using contact point estimation.
Don't worry though Joey, coming soon will be a whole bunch of new videos that illustrates these assertions in a friendly, well-edited format.
You have inspired me to invest in a much better way to promote center to edge aiming and all of your criticisms and assertions will be addressed. I just won't be naming you though. No need for the viewers to know your name as it is not material to the content.
When you are long gone this content will be introducing pool players to Center to Edge aiming and helping them to improve their aiming accuracy.
Again thank you for taking time to provide the motivation.
You stated that they are not using CTE. Ergo, they are lying. You are just not honest enough to say it because you know that you can't wiggle out when you do.
I have addressed every claim you have made and debunked them.
If you want to prove your claims I will be at California Billiards next week helping a player with his CTE questions.
You are welcome to join us as long as you behave and are not disruptive. I am a big believer in taking things to the table and working them out.
And actually Stan didn't say that CTE "automatically corrects stroke issues". He said CTE straightens out the shot. Which is itself kind of odd but he did a video demonstrating the effect.
Stan has been extremely clear that a straight stroke and solid fundamentals are a prerequisite to get the most benefit from cte aiming.
Maybe you should think about things people say more deeply.Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you hear.
Whats next ... cte will keep you from Playing bad pool when you're drunk.
Yeah, CTE helps to not play bad pool when you're drunk. Having multiple objective references makes the aiming work whether you are drunk or sober.
Well then explain it. You hilariously don't seem to understand how aiming works.
Nick Varner is one of the greatest to ever play this game. That being said, if anyone believes he never missed a ball due to a poor stroke then that person is dumb as a stump. No, actually they're even dumber than that.
John Barton:
I am one of those who said CTE automatically corrects stroke issues.
The reason is because if the player doesn't work diligently using some disciplined rehearsal method of stroke training, the CTE Aiming System will not work effectively. The player will be FORCED to correct the stroke issues by the mere presence of the system or he will give up and try to buy something else (wasting his money) that he feels is "now the magic method I've been looking for".
So, in order for it to work effectively, the player must correct stroke errors. Therefore the efficient use of CTE is the root cause behind the efforts for the stroke to be automatically corrected. I cannot say the same for other aiming methods...especially the one I dumped called "just see the shot and shoot it", which is patently absurd and totally unscientific.
I will go so far as to say that Poolology (which is a very good aiming method) automatically corrects stroke errors as well, because if the player has a fouled up stroke, the Poolology method won't be effective either. Therefore, in that case one can reasonably say that Poolology use, is the root cause behind the efforts for the stroke to be automatically corrected...since it is also a scientific way to aim and can be proven to be such.
The Ghosty Ball method, (based on visual superstition) cannot be proven to be scientific at all....it is merely a guessing game and a simple way for Pros to dodge tipping off how to REALLY aim to those who do not deserve to know.
As to why certain pathological losers cannot grasp the simplicity of all that, I am at a loss to say.
Kindest regards,
Lowenstein
I'll go with #4 "Pete Lowenstein" is lying, (and about more than just his name).
This is stupid, sorry.John Barton:
I am one of those who said CTE automatically corrects stroke issues.
The reason is because if the player doesn't work diligently using some disciplined rehearsal method of stroke training, the CTE Aiming System will not work effectively. The player will be FORCED to correct the stroke issues by the mere presence of the system or he will give up and try to buy something else (wasting his money) that he feels is "now the magic method I've been looking for".
So, in order for it to work effectively, the player must correct stroke errors. Therefore the efficient use of CTE is the root cause behind the efforts for the stroke to be automatically corrected. I cannot say the same for other aiming methods...especially the one I dumped called "just see the shot and shoot it", which is patently absurd and totally unscientific.
I will go so far as to say that Poolology (which is a very good aiming method) automatically corrects stroke errors as well, because if the player has a fouled up stroke, the Poolology method won't be effective either. Therefore, in that case one can reasonably say that Poolology use, is the root cause behind the efforts for the stroke to be automatically corrected...since it is also a scientific way to aim and can be proven to be such.
The Ghosty Ball method, (based on visual superstition) cannot be proven to be scientific at all....it is merely a guessing game and a simple way for Pros to dodge tipping off how to REALLY aim to those who do not deserve to know.
As to why certain pathological losers cannot grasp the simplicity of all that, I am at a loss to say.
Kindest regards,
Lowenstein
You say CTE straightens out your stroke because if you don't have a good stroke it won't work.
You say Poolology straightens out your stroke because if you don't have a good stroke it won't work.
You say ghost ball straightens out your stroke because if you don't have a good stroke it won't work.
Oh, you didn't say the last one? Why not? If you use a ghost ball trainer you have a spot to aim at and train yourself. If you don't have a straight stroke it won't work.