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I really like the Blue Book of Cues. However I am finding I need more info. Let me just start with the joint. Pointed brass pin with SS general era, brass pin with SS. Ect..
 
I really like the Blue Book of Cues. However I am finding I need more info. Let me just start with the joint. Pointed brass pin with SS general era, brass pin with SS. Ect..

Which maker?

What cue?

Your questions are a bit broad and the answers more complex than I think you might be aware.

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The Blue Book is good for a few things, like logos, and some real basic info on
cuemakers, but from a technical standpoint it's pretty worthless.
The values are out of whack, some of them were taken from the first BB, and guys
could put in whatever they wanted to regardless of what the cues actually sell for.
The level system based on the number of points and inlays is lame and makes no sense.

I'm sure that any specific questions you have would be answered correctly in the
main forum, there are quite a few knowledgeable collectors here, but it's hard to
answer general questions based on the joint & pin material.
I will say that I haven't seen too many high end cues with a stainless steel joint and a brass pin.
 
Tips for cue collecting

It might seem strange but I will offer you the same advice Sam Kinison offered many times. When folks answered in the affirmative when he asked if anybody in attendance was engaged and planning to take the plunge. He would scream at the top of his lungs

" DONT DO IT!!!!!" I think many would agree with that sentiment in both hobbies.How some ever and if you are determined, I will be glad to get you off to a running start with a great package deal.

I don't wish to hijack your thread but if anyone can explain the logic behind the phrase "scream at the top of his lungs" I would appreciate it. I Know what it implies but I'm damned if I know why.



Good luck in your endeavor and the leather response gets my vote too!
 
I really like the Blue Book of Cues. However I am finding I need more info. Let me just start with the joint. Pointed brass pin with SS general era, brass pin with SS. Ect..

70's

"Pointed" points to Adam.

FYI, the book values are pretty much there for decoration.

And, a lot of people turn and run at the first sight of "level" blah, blah, blah.
 
Put your money into a collection of Lucasi cues and thank me in 10 years.
Just ask Cuesblues.
 
Put your money into a collection of Lucasi cues and thank me in 10 years.
Just ask Cuesblues.
Don't know if you serious or not but i would disagree based on one reason: scarcity(or lack thereof). One of the main tenets of collecting is an item's rarity/scarcity. Lucasi does make GREAT cues but they've also made them by the boatload. I used to buy/sell/trade Ping Anser Scottsdale putters. They were/are collectible for one reason: there aren't very many of them. Do they putt any better than standard Phoenix-stamped model? No. The rarity is the collectible factor. Cues are no different.
 
Don't know if you serious or not but i would disagree based on one reason: scarcity(or lack thereof). One of the main tenets of collecting is an item's rarity/scarcity. Lucasi does make GREAT cues but they've also made them by the boatload. I used to buy/sell/trade Ping Anser Scottsdale putters. They were/are collectible for one reason: there aren't very many of them. Do they putt any better than standard Phoenix-stamped model? No. The rarity is the collectible factor. Cues are no different.



I think he just meant that he would end up liking how they all played lol


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Here are 3 really great pieces of advice

Bob Runde is older than me.he is still making great cues

buy one

Jerry rauenzahn is winding down,he is my age,this could be his last year

Buy one of his last"Brunswick 360 tributes",
you will be glad you did

if it is too much order another cue

Bob Owen is almost my age,he makes some of the best cues
,you can get one pretty soon and resonably priced

you will be glad if you call and buy one of each

you can get all 3 for less than the price of a szamboti and some day they may be more expensive than
you think possible


good advice
 
If you want to invest, speak with a reputable financial advisor. If you want to collect, get the cues that strike a nerve with you. Either you like the design, history, backstory, colors, etc. If it sparks emotion, buy it. Don't worry what it's worth or what it may be worth in the future. People too often conflate investing and collecting. IMO, they should be kept separate. If you consider your collection an investment, then you may as well sell everything you have & buy a bunch of lottery tickets.

I have a very, very early Thomas Wayne cue in my collection. Regardless of value, it's never leaving my possession. It sparks emotion in me on multiple levels. For me alone it's fascinating, inspiring, vengeful, comical, and historical all in the same. It means something to me. And that's why it's a collectible, not an investment. I don't expect anybody to understand nor do I care. It's my collection, not theirs.
 
70's

"Pointed" points to Adam.

FYI, the book values are pretty much there for decoration.

And, a lot of people turn and run at the first sight of "level" blah, blah, blah.

Points to Adam?

Be careful with that.

I have a number of cues with pointed pins that are not Adam.

For example I have a 1967 Viking Titlist conversion with pointed brass pin and stainless collar.

There are many other examples.
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The Blue Book is good for a few things, like logos, and some real basic info on
cuemakers, but from a technical standpoint it's pretty worthless.
The values are out of whack, some of them were taken from the first BB, and guys
could put in whatever they wanted to regardless of what the cues actually sell for.
The level system based on the number of points and inlays is lame and makes no sense.

I'm sure that any specific questions you have would be answered correctly in the
main forum, there are quite a few knowledgeable collectors here, but it's hard to
answer general questions based on the joint & pin material.
I will say that I haven't seen too many high end cues with a stainless steel joint and a brass pin.

I agree.

As for the stainless joint/brass pin combo....not many "high end" indeed. But there are a few.

Below the "high end" there are many.

This is a 1975 McDermott, very fancy, with WICO vinyl veneer points. Piloted with stainless collar and brass pin. Not high end exactly, but to me a seriously collectible cue.

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Luscher. Double butterfly. Ebony into rosewood into maple with double veneers. Around 1953.

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Gus Adams Titlist conversion, about 1950-1955. Pointed brass pin. (Probably large image. Let me know if you can't see it.)

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If you want to invest, speak with a reputable financial advisor. If you want to collect, get the cues that strike a nerve with you. Either you like the design, history, backstory, colors, etc. If it sparks emotion, buy it. Don't worry what it's worth or what it may be worth in the future. People too often conflate investing and collecting. IMO, they should be kept separate. If you consider your collection an investment, then you may as well sell everything you have & buy a bunch of lottery tickets.

I have a very, very early Thomas Wayne cue in my collection. Regardless of value, it's never leaving my possession. It sparks emotion in me on multiple levels. For me alone it's fascinating, inspiring, vengeful, comical, and historical all in the same. It means something to me. And that's why it's a collectible, not an investment. I don't expect anybody to understand nor do I care. It's my collection, not theirs.

My thoughts exactly.

What is collectible or exciting to one person might be boring to another. When collecting (anything) becomes driven by value alone, you are probably getting into dangerous territory.
 
My thoughts exactly.

What is collectible or exciting to one person might be boring to another. When collecting (anything) becomes driven by value alone, you are probably getting into dangerous territory.

Great things to collect are stocks, bonds, commodities, etc. :wink: They just aren't as pretty as pool cues.

But even they are just gambling...and you can easily lose your ass.

I say collect what you like, and like what you collect. Anything beyond that is a bonus.

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Points to Adam?

Be careful with that.

I have a number of cues with pointed pins that are not Adam.

For example I have a 1967 Viking Titlist conversion with pointed brass pin and stainless collar.

There are many other examples.
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I wasn't suggesting it's for sure an Adam.

Considering what he offered for info and the responses before mine, I think it's a pretty good lead.
 
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