cue for returning pool shooter

brokenarrowjbe

brokenarrowjbe

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Hello, My name is John. I stopped playing pool about 20 years ago. I was using a Joss. Since I was living in Maryland at the time, I assume it was one from the east coast Joss. At the time I liked it better than Viking, Muecci, and a few others. I remember Hueblers being hot, but I did not really take to them. I am thinking about getting into league play and have found a 2007 perchuer PRO3 for 175.00. Add says it is straight. Any feedback on similarity's to feel to an older Joss? Or should I look at other cue's? Not in any hurry. Several local pool halls but none have the selection I remember from the MD pool halls for cues and supplies. Online seems chancy since I will have to buy sight unshot so to speak. PS I was better than the average league shooter, but not a B player either. Not looking to go so high I would die if someone grabbed it and ran. Thanks, John
 
brokenarrowjbe said:
Hello, My name is John. I stopped playing pool about 20 years ago. I was using a Joss. Since I was living in Maryland at the time, I assume it was one from the east coast Joss. At the time I liked it better than Viking, Muecci, and a few others. I remember Hueblers being hot, but I did not really take to them. I am thinking about getting into league play and have found a 2007 perchuer PRO3 for 175.00. Add says it is straight. Any feedback on similarity's to feel to an older Joss? Or should I look at other cue's? Not in any hurry. Several local pool halls but none have the selection I remember from the MD pool halls for cues and supplies. Online seems chancy since I will have to buy sight unshot so to speak. PS I was better than the average league shooter, but not a B player either. Not looking to go so high I would die if someone grabbed it and ran. Thanks, John
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Welcome to AZ John. I am not exactly sure of the hit of an older Joss, but my local room I frequent is an authorized Pechauer dealer, so a lot of people use them. IMO they are a great cue and shoot very well. pretty solid hit and not a whippy feel to them. their worst feature is resale value, but if you are buying a used one that is a good thing.

If you haven't played much in 20 years, I wouldn't think you would know the difference between the two, but I could be wrong. So many cues play different that I would recommend trying out as many as you can if you have the opportunity at any local pool halls. Best of luck.
 
only played in the church basement on Sunday night . . . .

The ad ALWAYS says it's straight ! and it was only played with by a little old lady , from Pasadena . . . ;)

You didn't specify WHERE on the internet you saw it . Most of the dealers in our wanted/for sale section are pretty reliable guys , but just in case , there are escrow services here that you can use to make sure you're satisfied before the funds are released !

Also , if you really liked your Joss , there are many Josses for under $500 listed.

Welcome back to the game!

:welcome:




personal private disclaimer for Scott: "many"= more than 3 in this context . . . . . . .:cool:
 
Individual seller, told him we could meet at a local pool hall so I could see the cue and take a couple of test shots. John
 
Hey John. Welcome back. I did almost the exact same thing, 'cept I quit for 25 years and shot with a JossWest before. With the newer faster cloth and livelier rails and balls you will probably want a lighter cue than you played with back in the day. I used to use a Meucci style Pro Taper (in the JW) and I still like a long taper, but I now like a stiffer cue. Deflection is reduced with a stiffer shaft IMHO. Squirt is another subject and you actually would be well served with a Predator or an OB1. I found love with a sneaky from Paul Dayton but I spent $450.

After buying and selling 15 cues in 2 years, and most of them being wrong for me for some reason, I humbly suggest you find a retailer with a few of the better brands in stock. You might like McDermott or Joss, Perchauer or Lucasi. I had a Lucasi that I liked but I didn't want a cue made in China. Some of the Filipinos are big Mezz fans. I've never tried one. The bottom line is that there is nothing like trying a cue before you buy ! Some better dealers will even let you hit balls with tan chalk. Good luck...Tom
 
brokenarrowjbe said:
Hello, My name is John. I stopped playing pool about 20 years ago. I was using a Joss. Since I was living in Maryland at the time, I assume it was one from the east coast Joss. At the time I liked it better than Viking, Muecci, and a few others. I remember Hueblers being hot, but I did not really take to them. I am thinking about getting into league play and have found a 2007 perchuer PRO3 for 175.00. Add says it is straight. Any feedback on similarity's to feel to an older Joss? Or should I look at other cue's? Not in any hurry. Several local pool halls but none have the selection I remember from the MD pool halls for cues and supplies. Online seems chancy since I will have to buy sight unshot so to speak. PS I was better than the average league shooter, but not a B player either. Not looking to go so high I would die if someone grabbed it and ran. Thanks, John
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I play with a Pechauer Pro 3 cue and I would say for $175 its worth a look. It sells for $360 new on the internet. It's a solid hitting cue,more to the stiff hit then to soft. Hit is very subjective but this is a firm hitting cue.
 
OK, I went and shot with the cue today. It felt great. I am way out of practice. For 175, I am going to give it a shot. It turns out it has some extra inlays/points on the shaft and the place where the guy bought it was the place we met to test it. They were very adamant it was "worth way more" than 175, that it had some custom work done. Sounded like a hustle to me, but it looked nice, it is straight, and I have to start somewhere. It did seem a little "stiff" on the strike. My question is the new tips seem way harder than I used back in the late 80's, very early 90's. Would a medium moori be similar to what I am describing? Not sure if I made that understandable. John
 
Tom...Not to nitpick, but deflection and squirt are exactly the same thing. We instructors use the terms to describe the difference between what the stick does (deflection) and what the CB does (squirt).

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

tpdtom said:
Deflection is reduced with a stiffer shaft IMHO. Squirt is another subject and you actually would be well served with a Predator or an OB1.
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John...You probably played with LePro/1-piece tips (or something like them) when you played 20 years ago. Those tips are still around, and still a good tip. You might like the hit of those tips better than the layered tips. They are cheap, and you could have a LePro put on your cue, and if you don't like it, it only cost you a few bucks, and you can try something else. As with the "hit" of the cue being so subjective, so is the "feel" of a tip. Good luck with the Pechauer.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

brokenarrowjbe said:
My question is the new tips seem way harder than I used back in the late 80's, very early 90's. Would a medium moori be similar to what I am describing? Not sure if I made that understandable. John
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brokenarrowjbe said:
OK, I went and shot with the cue today. It felt great. I am way out of practice. For 175, I am going to give it a shot. It turns out it has some extra inlays/points on the shaft and the place where the guy bought it was the place we met to test it. They were very adamant it was "worth way more" than 175, that it had some custom work done. Sounded like a hustle to me, but it looked nice, it is straight, and I have to start somewhere. It did seem a little "stiff" on the strike. My question is the new tips seem way harder than I used back in the late 80's, very early 90's. Would a medium moori be similar to what I am describing? Not sure if I made that understandable. John
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Inlays and points in the shaft? Sorry pard, I don't like it already,,,,,I think Scott is right, Lepro is about what you used to use I bet,,,,,or maybe it was Moori, but the Lepro's are still pretty much the same, and the Moori's are not. Good luck with your comeback pard, and concentrate on a straight stroke, it's the shortest route you can take.
 
I'll stick my 2 pennies in. Pechauer is selling a lot of their Pro series cues with matching inlayed shafts. They call them Crown Jewels. My good friend has one. It hits very well. It gets used by 2 or 3 other members of our 9 ball team as well as the owner. It has held up fabulously. If the shaft matches the points in the cue you have a Crown Jewel. The Jewels cost considerably more than the standard cue.

The tips are hard Triangles from the factory. As another poster mentioned a LePro or an Elkmaster would not cost much to have installed. I have just bought a JP-04 with 2 shafts. One has a Triangle and another has an Everest layered tip on it. I like the Everest the best. I would humbly suggest you give one a try. They are not to expensive and really do work well.

Anyway good luck with the cue. No matter what the model, a Pro for that money in good straight condition is easily worth what you paid for it. You did good my friend. Now go out and knock the balls around some and enjoy the new toy.

Mark Shuman
 
phread59 said:
I'll stick my 2 pennies in. Pechauer is selling a lot of their Pro series cues with matching inlayed shafts. They call them Crown Jewels. My good friend has one. It hits very well. It gets used by 2 or 3 other members of our 9 ball team as well as the owner. It has held up fabulously. If the shaft matches the points in the cue you have a Crown Jewel. The Jewels cost considerably more than the standard cue.

The tips are hard Triangles from the factory. As another poster mentioned a LePro or an Elkmaster would not cost much to have installed. I have just bought a JP-04 with 2 shafts. One has a Triangle and another has an Everest layered tip on it. I like the Everest the best. I would humbly suggest you give one a try. They are not to expensive and really do work well.

Anyway good luck with the cue. No matter what the model, a Pro for that money in good straight condition is easily worth what you paid for it. You did good my friend. Now go out and knock the balls around some and enjoy the new toy.

Mark Shuman
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A Pro 3 has no points.Its a plain jane. Sounds like someone matched up a crown jewel shaft to a plain jane butt.Anyway if it works that is the most important part.Would like to see a pic and see if it is a pro 3.
 
Black-Balled said:
You should elaborate...but I ASSume it is coz you don't know what you are talking about!
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yeah, you'd be wrong! I'm absolutely sure I don't like inlays in the shaft!

Maybe a better response if you needed to tell me what I think would be to ask why I feel that way first!
 
brokenarrowjbe said:
OK, I went and shot with the cue today. It felt great. I am way out of practice. For 175, I am going to give it a shot. It turns out it has some extra inlays/points on the shaft and the place where the guy bought it was the place we met to test it. They were very adamant it was "worth way more" than 175, that it had some custom work done. Sounded like a hustle to me, but it looked nice, it is straight, and I have to start somewhere. It did seem a little "stiff" on the strike. My question is the new tips seem way harder than I used back in the late 80's, very early 90's. Would a medium moori be similar to what I am describing? Not sure if I made that understandable. John
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The tip might be old too. The layered tips like Moori's tend to be harder, especially once they are broken in. A Moori medium is still a hard tip. The advantage of a layered tip is they tend to hold their shape well and last for a long time. As Scott said, you might just want to have a Le Pro put on it and try it that way.

Pechauer's are good production cues in my book - a good, competent playing cue. It will certainly do the trick to get you back in stroke.

Today's tables tend to be faster and tighter. The trend in cues is going toward longer and lighter. Tips tend to be very hard but still grip well. Current players have adjusted to the equipment and I think we prefer it.

Chris
 
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