Custom Pool Room

[DogsPlayingPool]

......DP, argh!.......

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

Great project and very cool thread!

I have a question that popped into my head looking at those pictures of the sewer line. I wonder if you could explain a little more about the engineering of the support for the whole structure. Is there anything under the concrete blocks that we see in the pictures, like slabs or posts, or is the whole thing supported by what we see in the picture (sets of 2 blocks on their sides on top of a square piece?

I know nothing and am the least handy person I know. I'm in awe of your abilities so I'm not questioning anything, just curious about how stable it is - not in terms of being a well built structure or anything like that (obviously it is) - but just in terms of any settling issues with a new structure and the tables staying level. Probably just the normal stuff?

Thanks so much for the continual progress reports.

BTW, I really look forward to seeing your work on the table restorations!

 

[cuemister]

He's answered all of these questions before in detail. You need to his read early posts.:smile:

Great project and very cool thread!

I have a question that popped into my head looking at those pictures of the sewer line. I wonder if you could explain a little more about the engineering of the support for the whole structure. Is there anything under the concrete blocks that we see in the pictures, like slabs or posts, or is the whole thing supported by what we see in the picture (sets of 2 blocks on their sides on top of a square piece?

I know nothing and am the least handy person I know. I'm in awe of your abilities so I'm not questioning anything, just curious about how stable it is - not in terms of being a well built structure or anything like that (obviously it is) - but just in terms of any settling issues with a new structure and the tables staying level. Probably just the normal stuff?

Thanks so much for the continual progress reports.

BTW, I really look forward to seeing your work on the table restorations!

 

[goldcrown4]

Have you started any staining/finishing work yet? I'm sure I wiped out a few brain cells this past weekend, putting oil and poly on the oval legs and stretcher of my Anniversary table. With all that wood work, you'll need to really air it out, or walk in with a chemical war-fare mask.

 

[rrich1]

Funny you ask, the other day I went to Home Depot with 30 small pieces of rags, my paint can opener an 8' foot piece of oak and a sharpie.
I set up a little staining area in the isle. I first marked and labeled the wood with each stain color I was considering and went to town. An employee walks up and asks if I needed help, I politely said no. He then says to me sarcastically “you know the colors are printed on the front of the cans.” I turn to look up at him, because I’m sitting on a bucket, and say “You’re not very experienced with stain are you?” I think this may have offended him, I then showed him the actual stain on the wood comparing them to the pictures on the can, some were close, in others there was a big difference. I ‘m not about to take a chance with this size of project and just go by a picture on the can.
Any hoo, the color I’m considering is English Chestnut or Red Oak, they have the tone I think will really match the wall color.

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funny. i just redid a gold crown cue rack and used the english chestnut stain. ill be making a thread about it in the next day or so. :thumbup:

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

He's answered all of these questions before in detail. You need to his read early posts.:smile:

So you don't know the answer either, huh?

I have read the whole thread and if I had seen this info I wouldn't have asked. But welcome to the forum and oh yeah, thanks for the advice.

 

[dsoriano]

Thanks for the question, refer to post #35 and 65 there are other post where I mention the foundation too

Great project and very cool thread!

I have a question that popped into my head looking at those pictures of the sewer line. I wonder if you could explain a little more about the engineering of the support for the whole structure. Is there anything under the concrete blocks that we see in the pictures, like slabs or posts, or is the whole thing supported by what we see in the picture (sets of 2 blocks on their sides on top of a square piece?

I know nothing and am the least handy person I know. I'm in awe of your abilities so I'm not questioning anything, just curious about how stable it is - not in terms of being a well built structure or anything like that (obviously it is) - but just in terms of any settling issues with a new structure and the tables staying level. Probably just the normal stuff?

Thanks so much for the continual progress reports.

BTW, I really look forward to seeing your work on the table restorations!

 

[dsoriano]

Bar cabinet doors

Well Friday I decided to tackle the cabinet doors. In an earlier posy I mentioned that I had found alot of free oak doors on Craigslist, well I decided to make them instead. I didn't want to spend a whole lot of time sanding and stripping, I figured I can build the doors in a couple of hours as oppose to spending days sanding. I decided to use the pilot hole method and insert the panels from the rear. This isn't the cleanest design look from the inside but it the simplest and quickest and the doors look great once sanded and stained.




I built four doors with panels and the center door I left it open which I'll be adding an expanded metal screen to it later for the wine rack.

 

[dsoriano]

Crown Molding

I also began adding the Crown Molding. My plans were to install crown all around the room, but at $2.09 a linear ft, this stuff is EXPENSIVE!!:sorry: So i decided to trim only the Bar units and the build-outs along with the Cue Rack. Doing it this way won't take much away from the view of the ceiling. It took me a little longer since I won't be able to cover up any imperfections using paint or caulk when I'm done. Thats the down side to trimming with oak.

 

[Sarnia Shorty]

FINALLY!

It seems like I have been waiting forever for the next update.

Keep up the great work, I love following this thread.

 

[KMRUNOUT]

Your hands are tied a lot if you don't want the box speakers.

There are in-wall and in-ceiling speakers that will give good sound, yours might be alright, but they look like PA speakers, which generally reproduce a pretty narrow range of tones well.

The biggest thing is that your room isn't terribly large and isn't going to be subject to tons of noise. When I experience speakers on a grid, especially from above, I have vague feelings of disorientation.

The sony with the laptop is a fine source. I would suggest that you look into an external DAC (look at the HRT Music Streamer II--$150). This will give a much cleaner signal than most any laptop internal soundcard).

As for running six speakers, you'll want to know if that is a multichannel (each speaker plays something different) or if it is multi-zone stereo (3-sets of L/R pairs, all L's playing the same, all R's playing the same). The second will work out much better than the first because the sound will not change as much as you move from one area to another. Multichannel is really only made for things where you are sitting still.

I'll admit that I am a bit snobbish when it comes from audio. I actually get uncomfortable in many places when they are playing music with levels that are way off. Take any advice of mine with that in mind.

One more thing, have you heard of Magnepan speakers? Can sometimes be had for very decent prices (I paid $200 for my pair). They are 6' tall, 2' wide and 1" (yes, one-inch) thick. No box at the bottom, 1" top to bottom. They can be covered in any color cloth. If you wanted to hang them on the wall, they would work well, but you'd need to space them off ~4" with a frame full of fiberglass insulation. They also make a smaller speaker.

Love the project, you are going to have a bunch of fun.

dld

DLD,

I must say that suggesting hanging Magnepan speakers on the wall, while at the same time claiming to be an "audio snob" (along with your Pioneer and Teac recommendations) is hysterically funny! No disrespect, but that really sounds utterly silly. Magnepans are electrostatic speakers right? The probelms with this situation FAR outweight the problems (most of which are not problems) with the original system he suggested.

I have worked in the custom A/V field for a long time now, and know a great deal about the various options here. If the OP wishes, PM me and I would be happy to have a conversation with you about the best, cheapest way to get a very good reliable system that sounds great, is easy to use, and simple to implement.

KMRUNOUT

 

[mr8ball]

Just amazing! I am so glad I ran across this thread. Some of the best work I have ever seen. Thanks for sharing

 

[dsoriano]

Wine Rack

Well yesterday after I updated this thread I made some calls on expanded metal. I found half sheets ranging between $38-$55. Ouch! I spoke to a shop right down the street form where I work and decided to go down and see what they had. He shows me this stack of 1/2" 13 ga expanded metal pieces already painted in enamel black. I'm thinking this is exactly what I need! He says these are scrap pieces, hows $10 sound? I said it sounded pretty good! So when I got home I cut the size I needed with a cutting wheel and brad stapled it to the door frame.




I also passed by Harbor Freight Tools and picked up a hole saw kit to cut the wine rack holders. After cutting them I had my son give them a good sanding, first with 80 then 150. I cut these a 1/16 long to fit tight in the cabinet then glued and brad nailed them from the other side of the cabinet for a clean look. My wife really liked it.

 

[Brozif]

Just when I think you can't amaze me any more with your skill, you show me just how wrong I am.

Do you do interior/exterior renovations for a living? I would give anything to have skills like these!

The finished product is going to be truly awesome! You will have to take some video of it when it's done and then post your video of the grand opening party.

Someone else mentioned having a live stream. That is a great idea. I would love to see it being used. It might be the only way for me to feel like I was actually there!

Amazing, Inspiring, Impressive and just plain awesome! What else can I say?

 

[mr8ball]

WOW keep up the good work.

 

[dsoriano]

Realkingcobra

Great news! I've been in touch with Glen. He says when the Room is done he'll come down and help me set up the tables. The best part is, he says He'll sit back and have a cup of coffee while I use his tools and he shows me how to set up rails and calibrate the table! How freggin awesome is that!? Reminds me of that wise saying: catch a man a fish...feed him for a day, but teach a man to fish....... Ahhh thats what I'm talking about.
After he teaches me everytingh he knows (and believe me, Im gonna pick his Brain) I'm gonna change my user name to the "realprincecobra" :grin:

 

[mr2_serious]

Great news! I've been in touch with Glen. He says when the Room is done he'll come down and help me set up the tables. The best part is, he says He'll sit back and have a cup of coffee while I use his tools and he shows me how to set up rails and calibrate the table! How freggin awesome is that!? Reminds me of that wise saying: catch a man a fish...feed him for a day, but teach a man to fish....... Ahhh thats what I'm talking about.
After he teaches me everytingh he knows (and believe me, Im gonna pick his Brain) I'm gonna change my user name to the "realprincecobra" :grin:

That is FCKin' badass... lucky you :thumbup:

 

[alpine9430]

Great news! I've been in touch with Glen. He says when the Room is done he'll come down and help me set up the tables. The best part is, he says He'll sit back and have a cup of coffee while I use his tools and he shows me how to set up rails and calibrate the table! How freggin awesome is that!? Reminds me of that wise saying: catch a man a fish...feed him for a day, but teach a man to fish....... Ahhh thats what I'm talking about.
After he teaches me everytingh he knows (and believe me, Im gonna pick his Brain) I'm gonna change my user name to the "realprincecobra" :grin:

RPC
I like that!

 

[DGHustles]

this is by far the best thread I have ever seen on AZ. Badass sir!

 

[Cdryden]

Great news! I've been in touch with Glen. He says when the Room is done he'll come down and help me set up the tables. The best part is, he says He'll sit back and have a cup of coffee while I use his tools and he shows me how to set up rails and calibrate the table! How freggin awesome is that!? Reminds me of that wise saying: catch a man a fish...feed him for a day, but teach a man to fish....... Ahhh thats what I'm talking about.
After he teaches me everytingh he knows (and believe me, Im gonna pick his Brain) I'm gonna change my user name to the "realprincecobra" :grin:

HOW DARE YOU POST TEXT ONLY! We want pictures! J/K Great job on your room, I've been showing the pics to my wife and now she expects me to be able to do that!!! Thanks alot :nono: