Dale Perry cue review

With regard to the comment about Dale's cues possibly being made in China, I can attest that they are not. His shop is right down the road from me and I've been there many times and seen his cues in various stages of production. A girl on my pool team got one of his cues from him directly as he plays in our 9-ball league. Beautiful cue and she's happy with it. For the money, pretty hard to beat a DP cue.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:


We are talk about a 120 BUCK PRODUCTION CUE, not a 2500 BUCK FULL CUSTOM, MADE BY ONE MAN CUE!
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To be fair, many expensive production cues are not made by one man, there are often assistants and/or partners. In the case of DP cues, he has an assistant.


Southwest is a good example. How many work there? How many models do they have? I can only think of principally four or five different cues that they make that I have seen. And they are certainly expensive and considered "custom".



Dale Perry is local to me. I am starting to think I should stop by and see that all the noise is about. People sure do get riled up about him and his cues.


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Dale......

Mr. Dale Perry crafted a shaft that was built for Eddie Taylor's 1961 ''Rambow'',,,

It's an incredible shaft and I would bet anyone could not tell me which is the authentic ''Rambow'' shaft and which is the ''Dale Perry'',,,

He's quite an artist ,,,but hey,,,what do I and ''Eddie Taylor''s 1961 ''Rambow'' know,??

,,,,,,,,,,,Alan Ende,,,,,,,
 
Chopdoc said:
To be fair, many expensive production cues are not made by one man, there are often assistants and/or partners. In the case of DP cues, he has an assistant.


Southwest is a good example. How many work there? How many models do they have? I can only think of principally four or five different cues that they make that I have seen. And they are certainly expensive and considered "custom".



Dale Perry is local to me. I am starting to think I should stop by and see that all the noise is about. People sure do get riled up about him and his cues.


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and yet SW is custom? not DP, Schon, Joss...I never have understood this either. My dp is a good cue, and it was inexpensive to boot. I have seen many a cue the inlays in the points weren't dead center. There was a balabushka pictured in the wanted for sale section that one of the veneers was off badly at the bottom of the point. I think cues don't need to be perfect to be good cues. Some makers try to get perfection, and come as close as possible, and the better ones cost alot of money. DP does a good job, and they can be afforded and used by a large market.
 
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Alot of people are just pissed at DP because they paid $3000 for one back when he was selling them in the Robb report and they can't get $500 for it now that they're being sold on ebay even tho the older ones are of far better quality. i'd be pissed too:p
 

Another Guy who also lives in my Community showed up today with his NEW Dale Perry Cue again the Shaft could have been finished SMOOTHER, but that Problem can fixed in about 3 MINUTES, with some 2000 Grit Sand Paper, and a Coat of Cue WAX!

This fellow ordered his off Dale Web-site, had a few option in the mix, and paid about $150.00 for the Cue in Question. He is happy with his purchase, so that is another sale for Dale.
 
In defense of Dale Perry a friend of mine has an ebony pre e-bay wrap less DP cue.The finish and fit are good and it plays top notch.
 
JB Cases said:
I didn't catch that in your post. It's hard to catch sarcasm on forum posts without a little more help.
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I would have thought by now you understood I am no xenophobe. :smile:

But of course...that's an assumption...and we know how those often work out.


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matcase said:
and yet SW is custom? not DP, Schon, Joss...I never have understood this either. My dp is a good cue, and it was inexpensive to boot. I have seen many a cue the inlays in the points weren't dead center. There was a balabushka pictured in the wanted for sale section that one of the veneers was off badly at the bottom of the point. I think cues don't need to be perfect to be good cues. Some makers try to get perfection, and come as close as possible, and the better ones cost alot of money. DP does a good job, and they can be afforded and used by a large market.
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I'll take it a step further. There have been highly regarded cues by highly regarded cue makers of substantial reputation that have had ill-fitting inlays, glue lines, an outright flaws. Pictures of some of those cues, closeups, have been posted in these forums and people have gone ape-shit over them. They couldn't say enough about them. Some of those cues are, individually, highly regarded works of art and are in fact famous as individual cues. Some of them are valued in the tens of thousands. And I am not talking about 40 or 50 year old cues, I am talking about modern cues of high regard and reputation made by the "best" makers, of the "best" materials, using the "best" methods.

I don't know why people overlook those flaws. It seems that if those flaws existed in cues from other makers of less substantial reputation they would have been pointed out and the cue "butchered" for its flaws.

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danutz said:
Alot of people are just pissed at DP because they paid $3000 for one back when he was selling them in the Robb report and they can't get $500 for it now that they're being sold on ebay even tho the older ones are of far better quality. i'd be pissed too:p
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It also seems to have pissed off cue dealers and other cue makers as they seem to be the most vocal about it as far as I have seen Personally, I'm not so worried about them in this matter.

Personally, I wouldn't be pissed at Dale Perry about it at all. Not at all.

The market in his used/older cues is ruled by public perception, not him or his current prices. That is true for the market in anything in fact. I would be pissed at the people who for some reason think my old DP (if I had one) was now worth less than it was. It's still the same cue, it is only their value perception that changed, not the cue.

Dale Perry is a member in good standing of the ACA as far as I know. Other's have upped their production, including Hall of Fame member Dan Janes and I don't see people devaluing his earlier work or insulting him on forums about it. He is an icon.

Russ Espiritu is also a cue maker of some standing and reputation that went to "catalog" cues and increased production in the early nineties. He did it for a while then gave it up and decreased his production numbers. I don't see anybody insulting him over it or devaluing his work.

The great Richard Helmstetter went as far as to not only mass produce but to do it in Asia and I don't see anybody devaluing his early work or insulting him on forums. He is an icon.

Jim McDermott's early cues are highly regarded and collectible. McDermott became a leader in the industry....I don't see anybody insulting his good name...and McDermott did and does import cues from Asia and puts their logo on them. They are still US based and primarily a US manufacturer though.

Gordon Hart, Bob Meucci, the Mali family, Paul Huebler......and more....

These people built the industry as we know it. They all went to mass production. They all sold and/or sell lower priced cues. They didn't seek the permission of the buyers, the dealers, or anybody...they made a business decision. Those business decisions built some of the most famous cue lines and cues in the industry. I don't see any of them maligned and attacked the way Mr. Perry is.



Dale Perry didn't destroy the pricing of his earlier works, the cue buyers did and malicious backlash did.


I have never shot with one of his cues, but I would like to try one out of curiosity. I would also like to visit his shop and meet him. I appreciate the honest review of one of his cues as well as the detailed pics....that includes the good and the bad. It's the rest of the BS that rubs me the wrong way.

Dale Perry, like it or not, is a successful American cue maker by any standard.



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Cowboy, you can buy this cue for $200. shipped if you think his cues are all that. I might even install a better tip for you.
 
I can say this without mentioning the name of any cue maker. Over ther years I had many people come up to me as a player and cue maker to show me their new wepon. Before even looking I always asked how they liked it.

I can downgrade anything including my own work. I never found pleasure in telling a 5 year old there is no Santa Claus or Easter Bunny.

As far as a Tip goes I put on or have a new one put on to my liking right after buying a cue.

Game round or set the person to make the last ball without scratching wins and the balls don't have a clue what they were hit with.
 
TomHay said:
I can say this without mentioning the name of any cue maker. Over ther years I had many people come up to me as a player and cue maker to show me their new wepon. Before even looking I always asked how they liked it.

I can downgrade anything including my own work. I never found pleasure in telling a 5 year old there is no Santa Claus or Easter Bunny.

As far as a Tip goes I put on or have a new one put on to my liking right after buying a cue.

Game round or set the person to make the last ball without scratching wins and the balls don't have a clue what they were hit with.
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Trust me the cueball knows what tip it was hit with and how good or bad of a stroke was used. It will act accordingly!!!!!!!!!!
 
When I was 14 years old my late Dad opened a Pool Hall in upstate NY with all brand new Brunswick Gold Crowns. It was Willie Mosconis job for Brunswick to give exhibitions in Pool Halls that did so.

Mosconi set up a rack of balls with a break shot (straight pool) and ran the rack with position for another break shot. This does not sound like much but he did it with a broom handle (yes he chalked between shots).

We could do a video of the balls coming back out of the pockets and the cue ball interviewing them on what they thought of the finish of the cue and the layered tip and ivory ferrule but they don't speak much.
 
TomHay said:
When I was 14 years old my late Dad opened a Pool Hall in upstate NY with all brand new Brunswick Gold Crowns. It was Willie Mosconis job for Brunswick to give exhibitions in Pool Halls that did so.

Mosconi set up a rack of balls with a break shot (straight pool) and ran the rack with position for another break shot. This does not sound like much but he did it with a broom handle (yes he chalked between shots).

We could do a video of the balls coming back out of the pockets and the cue ball interviewing them on what they thought of the finish of the cue and the layered tip and ivory ferrule but they don't speak much.
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First off, Mr. Mosconi was one of the best players to ever grace a pool table with his presence. I would be willing to bet that just because he could run a rack or two with a broomstick, that doens't mean he could have broke his own record with one.

I think you may have missed the point cuemaker03 was trying to make. That was that better equipment usually means better results for us mere mortals.
 
TomHay said:
When I was 14 years old my late Dad opened a Pool Hall in upstate NY with all brand new Brunswick Gold Crowns. It was Willie Mosconis job for Brunswick to give exhibitions in Pool Halls that did so.

Mosconi set up a rack of balls with a break shot (straight pool) and ran the rack with position for another break shot. This does not sound like much but he did it with a broom handle (yes he chalked between shots).

We could do a video of the balls coming back out of the pockets and the cue ball interviewing them on what they thought of the finish of the cue and the layered tip and ivory ferrule but they don't speak much.
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Not all communication is verbal. When you strike the cueball above center does it not follow? What about draw, left and right english? speed control and angle and finally the quality of stroke. the cueball does communicate and the better players know what the feedback means. The thread is about the quality of DP cues and the cue in question is going back LOL.
 
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