Bout time to drive the food truck there.
DerbyCity going to Nashville...???
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Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
Diamond could solve 25% of the discontent by solving the food problem. Food availability is a simple matter of negotiation and should have been corrected by the second year. Food trucks should provide a perfect solution, but even if they flopped, it would be a success as the players would feel like they mattered.
It was much better this year. There were still tables not full at times, but they seemed much more proactive in moving matches to open tables. I had one of mine moved due to the preceding match taking longer than expected.
I arrived at about 12:30 on Thursday during the early rounds of nine ball. In the main room, there were about 4 tables with matches on them. That's badly broken. At about 3:30 on Thursday, no more than half of the tables in that room had matches.
I think they had over 50 tables available this year. They were numbered to at least 47 but I think there were some overflow tables.
I left after Wednesday after getting knocked out of 1 pocket. So can't speak to 9 ball. Personal experience was it felt like it ran better in banks and 1 pocket. I had one match get moved to open table. Another match that was going to be moved but the table opened as I was called to the tournament desk. Tournament desk was also making aouncements that if your table wasn't open. If both players came to the desk they would assign a new table.
Could it be better the answer is yes. Did I feel from my personal experience it was better than previous years the answer was also yes
InsertCleverNameHere
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Counterpoint to this, those “empty or unoccupied tables” were available for short practice sessions for those of us waiting on the draw for the next round
When you have 48 tables and you’ve had, for example, 146 matches to go through for an early round there’s just got to be some downtime while those last say 30 matches are played before the next draw.
The derby isn’t nearly as broken as people love to say it is. Yes, it has plenty of flaws, won’t ever say it doesn’t.
But the biggest flaws are to do with the prize money allocations imo. Finishing top 20 in a 400+ player field should get you much more than double your money. Every event is essentially a $260 buyin(if we’re being honest) and to take home 600 for T14(using 1pkt as the example) is absolutely pathetic.
Been saying this for yrs. Let a few food trucks post up outside with delivery runners. People would get good food and not nearly the hijack-level pricing of the hotel. Hell, if a pizza deliv. guy showed up with 200pies and blitzed social media at the event he'd sell out in 5minutes.
I agree with you that Derby isn't as broken as people thing. I will offer this though on the payouts. Anyone who makes round 5 gets paid. It would be interesting to see how many players out of the tournament that is. 40% of the field potentially is getting paid. That is a higher percentage than most, if not all, tournaments at that level.Counterpoint to this, those “empty or unoccupied tables” were available for short practice sessions for those of us waiting on the draw for the next round
When you have 48 tables and you’ve had, for example, 146 matches to go through for an early round there’s just got to be some downtime while those last say 30 matches are played before the next draw.
The derby isn’t nearly as broken as people love to say it is. Yes, it has plenty of flaws, won’t ever say it doesn’t.
But the biggest flaws are to do with the prize money allocations imo. Finishing top 20 in a 400+ player field should get you much more than double your money. Every event is essentially a $260 buyin(if we’re being honest) and to take home 600 for T14(using 1pkt as the example) is absolutely pathetic.
Last year, 123 players in 9 ball got paid. That's 25% of the field, which is standard.
DCC Payouts and Results
Just posted here by the official DCC Facebook account: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=888077526438329 Not surprising but a quite a top heavy payout, with 16th place in 9 ball getting $900.
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InsertCleverNameHere
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This year it took round 6.
But the problem lies in the fact that only 150 of the 260 goes to the prize pool. 100 of the 260 goes to Master of the Table and let’s face it there’s only maybe MAYBE 6-10 people that have a shot at that money(speaking of 3 prizes). The other 600ish players are never getting a penny of that, not even on the snowiest day in hell.
It’s a MAJOR tax that nearly all of us pay.
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
And then there are those of us who couldn't win bracket money, ever, under any circumstance. But, wait, isn't there that other thing that they have at other tournaments . . . can't remember what's it called but DCC has never had one that I know of. There was, however, a time at the EW where there was true pari-mutuel betting on the big Saturday Night Ring Game -- the window was open, you paid your money, and they gave you your stub. If I could have seen the future, I would have saved a couple of my losers.
Diamond needs to bite the bullet and build a tournament facility with 100 9' and 100 7' tables, I'm sure it can be written off as promotion.
They can rent it to all the various leagues for end of year events - SBE, etc.
Get a good location with a bunch of hotels, restaurants etc and have big events there all year, no need to set up and tear down.
Have it open as a poolroom, just block a huge portion of it off for heating/cooling
They can rent it to all the various leagues for end of year events - SBE, etc.
Get a good location with a bunch of hotels, restaurants etc and have big events there all year, no need to set up and tear down.
Have it open as a poolroom, just block a huge portion of it off for heating/cooling
Hell, they could partner with MR and have a bunch of events there. They could have a camera over every table for viewing and Pros could actually move there and have a home where they make a big portion of their money. They'd be able to set up training sessions before and after events.
There's no reason that I can think of for diamond not to do this. It also let's them basically corner the market for their tables. Nashville area would be fantastic, so would Vegas. Chattanooga is a good small city that seems very safe.
Oh yeah, don't forget the 10'ers
There's no reason that I can think of for diamond not to do this. It also let's them basically corner the market for their tables. Nashville area would be fantastic, so would Vegas. Chattanooga is a good small city that seems very safe.
Oh yeah, don't forget the 10'ers
I think some of you are overestimating how many people really LOVE pool. We often lose sight of this on here because we are all wired a little differently. DCC has taken the code that several amateur promoters cracked long ago -- put the event in a casino and they will come. You will always have the fence sitters, that decide to come simply because it's a two birds with one stone scenario. DCC would be gambling by moving their event out of a casino.
It was crazy before it moved to a casino. If they can't play craps they'll be playing each other- gamblers gonna gambleI think some of you are overestimating how many people really LOVE pool. We often lose sight of this on here because we are all wired a little differently. DCC has taken the code that several amateur promoters cracked long ago -- put the event in a casino and they will come. You will always have the fence sitters, that decide to come simply because it's a two birds with one stone scenario. DCC would be gambling by moving their event out of a casino.
Best guess why Derby will never have a Food Truck Court.
Because....
That group will sleep in their rigs. LOL
Because....
That group will sleep in their rigs. LOL