Diameter of shaft

I'm still waiting for some examples of 'notoriously unreliable evidence' - this time, stuff I've actually said, please.
LOL. Do you really think things you've said are known well enough to be notorious? "How things seem" is notoriously unreliable evidence in general, from you and everybody else.

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I got great responses from my weight of cue thread, so now what about the diameter of the shaft. I shoot with a Cognoscenti and tried an untouched shaft which is 13.2mm. I have to say it had great accuracy and I never miss cued but could not get alot of action from it. I shoot with an 11mm and can get alot of action out of it. Is this again a personal preference or is there a difference between a thick shaft compared to a skinny one. Thanks.

One consideration that I think is important, and everyone else ignores, is the effect on the balance point of the cue.

On the same butt I just compared a 13mm shaft with a Predator 12.75mm shaft. The balance point with the 13mm shaft was 20.5 inches and with the 12.75 mm shaft was 20 inches.

You see, I love forward balanced cues (fanatical in fact).
 
One consideration that I think is important, and everyone else ignores, is the effect on the balance point of the cue.

On the same butt I just compared a 13mm shaft with a Predator 12.75mm shaft. The balance point with the 13mm shaft was 20.5 inches and with the 12.75 mm shaft was 20 inches.

You see, I love forward balanced cues (fanatical in fact).

Don't forget, it's not uncommon for a smaller diameter shaft to be heavier than the larger one.
 
Don't forget, it's not uncommon for a smaller diameter shaft to be heavier than the larger one.

True, but I think it would be 'very uncommon' instead of 'not uncommon'. eg. Predators are very light. The old maple shafts are heavy.
 
True, but I think it would be 'very uncommon' instead of 'not uncommon'. eg. Predators are very light. The old maple shafts are heavy.

Predator shafts are 4ozs and up. That's not light. I have maple shafts weighing all over the board. So, they could be either.

Also, different shaft sizes DO make a difference. Otherwise, why would there be a preference? Granted, size isn't the only consideration. Flex and weight also have alot to do with how a shaft plays. Plus, you can have a 13mm flexible shaft and an 11mm stiff. Picking one is part art and part science.
 
Predator shafts are 4ozs and up. That's not light. I have maple shafts weighing all over the board. So, they could be either.
The key to a low-squirt (AKA low cue-ball deflection) shaft is being light at the tip end. In other words, they must have low endmass.

Regards,
Dave
 
I started shooting with the 13.2mm shaft and my accuracy went way up. Also on the predator web site it says that the fat shafts were designed for Taiwanese players. Any backround on Taiwanese players and why they prefer fat shafts?
 
I've been playing with many shaft for almost 5 years, and finally I'm stuck for shaft around 11 mm in diameter. It's been my personal taste for years, my custom cue maker modified my cue to be more power because I need more action on the cue ball, specially for long distance draw and follow. But I found the weakness (I may say that) for the high english, and hitting over a ball (jack up stance), the deflection little bit more hard to predict.
 
The key to a low-squirt (AKA low cue-ball deflection) shaft is being light at the tip end. In other words, they must have low endmass.

Regards,
Dave

Yes, I knew that. I was replying to a poster that said laminated shafts are light and solid maple is heavy. Although LD shafts have less end mass they can certainly be 4 or more ounces overall.
 
Yes, I knew that. I was replying to a poster that said laminated shafts are light and solid maple is heavy. Although LD shafts have less end mass they can certainly be 4 or more ounces overall.
Agreed. I would think (but don't know for sure) that a laminated shaft with the exact same geometry as a solid maple shaft would tend to be heavier because of the adhesive. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Again, it doesn't really matter in the question anyway. Less endmass (and not less overall weight) is what really matters when it comes to LD squirt performance.

Regards,
Dave
 
i was a 12.75 guy when i learned to play. then after a few years i started going smaller and always felt that it was helping me be more preicse with my english.

i switched to a thicker shaft after palling around iwth a friend of mine that is kind of a purist about pool and my game jumped up a ball easy. i've hit a level i've never been at before and honestly i don't believe i'd have ever gotten there if i hadn't switched to a thicker shaft.

the predator fat shaft is perfect imo. still kind of ld like the old school 314's were and now they're as stiff as the old 314's used to be. add in that there's probably going to be less problems with them cracking because i have to figure they're not drilling a bigger hole to accommodate the thicker shaft.

it's just a great f'n shaft.
 
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