Did Barry bring the Cash into the arena???

[greyghost]

yeah they sure are great biz men,

I have one question for them(not all of them but most of them)-If they are so smart why arnt they rich? All the richer people than I was I knew were a lot smarter than me and I'm the first to admit it, i'm far from the sharpest knife in the drawer. most people cant admit their weaknesses. It takes a strong man to admit he is weak,

Yea they forget about things like insurance, security, etc.....I know ESPN doesn't show the tourney for free either.

Just like the thought that the players could just find a pool hall and make the US OPEN happen basically for nothing lol......YEA RIGHT, even if they could there would be too much BS b/t the players to get it done. Pool Players on the whole are by no mean in any way BUSINESS MEN, much less resemble one.

Your comments are why myself and others have respect for you.....you have done wrong as we all have. But you openly own up to them, that my friend is commendable.

I have no issues with you supposedly saying often how you give to the derby challenge and other such things.....put it in your signature who cares, at least you give something. And I'm sure it makes you feel good to do that for the sport that you enjoy so much, they think your trying to toot your horn...when you just feel good about what you do, and there aint a darn thing wrong with that.

Thats like someone saying the only reason i go work with the kids or teach others to play is for my own ego, when it costs me much time/effort to do so probono. Hell yea I'll tell everyone, I'm extremely proud to have the opportunity to do the things I do....if thats bragging and tooting my horn then tough sh*t everyone.

Just like this site.....I've built great reputation and it has been hard work, it takes much effort and my helping and this and that on here also takes much TIME away from my days. SO when I have to write up stupid stuff like this post to get peoples minds right it PISSES ME OFF!

This is a place to learn, to teach, converse/visit and enjoy the game we all love to play together like a big a$$ family. Some of you on here just like to start trouble, point fingers, and cause problems......

This site is one of the best things to ever happen to the game.....stop pissing on it. Think about what you say and what you mean b/f you type. Disregard in those areas is why some never post on here but have been lurking forever....it drives people away, some of those people may have had great things to add to this site, some of those people may could have been the next hall of fame player.....you never know who's listening/reading. Its one thing to when the BS is called for like this message I'm typing, but its a whole nother story when attacks and flame wars start for no reason besides stirring the pot to see what comes to the surface.

Just for once listen to the Grey Ghost and cut the BS.


Have fun, learn, teach, converse and ask questions thats all that needs to be going on here.

thanks,
-Keeb'

 

[poolhustler]

I hate soap operas............:angry:

 

[poolplayer2093]

I dont care what people think of me, my actions will solve that problem. And whats wrong with telling the truth??? should I lie and say I never did anything bad?

don't mind the trust fund baby that's just the way he is. i know exactly where you're coming from man! you do what you have to and it is what it is.

azbilliards doesn't like it when you're upfront about things. if it's a cue review you better not say anything bad. if it's a great player that's actually a joke you better keep it to yourself. if you robbed some 1 eyed guy playing barbox 8 ball.....Shhhhhh.

 

[rivercitysledge]

so if they got paid this year did he pay the debts from last couple years?

 

[poolplayer2093]

Yea they forget about things like insurance, security, etc.....I know ESPN doesn't show the tourney for free either.

Just like the thought that the players could just find a pool hall and make the US OPEN happen basically for nothing lol......YEA RIGHT, even if they could there would be too much BS b/t the players to get it done. Pool Players on the whole are by no mean in any way BUSINESS MEN, much less resemble one.

Your comments are why myself and others have respect for you.....you have done wrong as we all have. But you openly own up to them, that my friend is commendable.

I have no issues with you supposedly saying often how you give to the derby challenge and other such things.....put it in your signature who cares, at least you give something. And I'm sure it makes you feel good to do that for the sport that you enjoy so much, they think your trying to toot your horn...when you just feel good about what you do, and there aint a darn thing wrong with that.

Thats like someone saying the only reason i go work with the kids or teach others to play is for my own ego, when it costs me much time/effort to do so probono. Hell yea I'll tell everyone, I'm extremely proud to have the opportunity to do the things I do....if thats bragging and tooting my horn then tough sh*t everyone.

Just like this site.....I've built great reputation and it has been hard work, it takes much effort and my helping and this and that on here also takes much TIME away from my days. SO when I have to write up stupid stuff like this post to get peoples minds right it PISSES ME OFF!

This is a place to learn, to teach, converse/visit and enjoy the game we all love to play together like a big a$$ family. Some of you on here just like to start trouble, point fingers, and cause problems......

This site is one of the best things to ever happen to the game.....stop pissing on it. Think about what you say and what you mean b/f you type. Disregard in those areas is why some never post on here but have been lurking forever....it drives people away, some of those people may have had great things to add to this site, some of those people may could have been the next hall of fame player.....you never know who's listening/reading. Its one thing to when the BS is called for like this message I'm typing, but its a whole nother story when attacks and flame wars start for no reason besides stirring the pot to see what comes to the surface.

Just for once listen to the Grey Ghost and cut the BS.


Have fun, learn, teach, converse and ask questions thats all that needs to be going on here.

thanks,
-Keeb'

Good point!!!!!

 

[Nostroke]

If the cash was out on the area floor at 1 pm it would have been put on ppv many times and/or people that were there would have saw it and responded to this by now. I'm not saying all players weren't paid but it's clear there was no cash or armored guard there like Barry said was going to happen. Johnnyt

It was not there.

 

[hdgis1]

And it takes a humble man to point out his strengths.

Chris

yeah they sure are great biz men,

I have one question for them(not all of them but most of them)-If they are so smart why arnt they rich? All the richer people than I was I knew were a lot smarter than me and I'm the first to admit it, i'm far from the sharpest knife in the drawer. most people cant admit their weaknesses. It takes a strong man to admit he is weak,

 

[GetMeThere]

1) It's worse than bad if/when players don't get paid. In this day, tournaments are very important for pool. It's GREAT that top players have the ability to at least make SOMETHING from great play.

2) People shouldn't have stuff from the distant past shoved in their face. What matters is what people are doing NOW. Fatboy is of obvious positive service to pool overall, and also to this forum. His only interest is the obviously benign one of worrying about players getting what they have coming to them.

3) People should do what they say....but sometimes they're a little careless in what they say--yet are still ready to meet their commitments. If the players HAVE finally gotten paid, then all is well. Good checks within a week or two of the event should satisfy anybody (but best to hand them out right after the final games).

 

[lfigueroa]

none of the 80 mil, i lost it in realestate. if you could read i said i scammed 600K-can you read?

and how could a person scam 80mil and not go to jail,

how many years did you go to school?

i havent made $$$ in 28 months, Glen will verify-if i'm such a career criminial why then havent I made $$ in 28 months? and am sinking? huh?

thats what I thought.

OK, not that it's any of my business, or that I care, but since this is your defense -- posted right here in the open for the world to see and presumably discuss -- I just have to ask: did you make restitution on the $600K?

Lou Figueroa

 

[realkingcobra]

OK, not that it's any of my business, or that I care, but since this is your defense -- posted right here in the open for the world to see and presumably discuss -- I just have to ask: did you make restitution on the $600K?

Lou Figueroa

Ok...lets ask another question here...IS THAT ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS...and WHAT does that have to do with the OP?...OFF SUBJECT!

Glen

 

[Jaden]

exactly Glen...

I think...you missed the point of the thread..what fatboy has done or hasn't done in the past...has nothing to do with the statement made by someone else...as to what THEY said they'd do...and the right to question that statement

Glen

I've seen a lot of people use ad hominem attacks like that when they don't have a valid argument against what's being said.

If I was a player (which I really wanted to be this year, but it didn't work out) I would've been happy just by being paid on time.) but AS A MAN I would be disappointed if what he said he would do didn't come to fruition without an explanation as to why it didn't occur, BEFORE hand not AFTER...

Jaden

 

[Dartman]

It was not there.

There's the answer Eric.
Suggest starting a new thread about the players getting paid which I'm sure will compel more off-topic and idiotic comments like this thread did.

 

[Fatboy]

so if they got paid this year did he pay the debts from last couple years?

yes barry has awalys paid in full, he admitted in the letter that he was late in paying players in the past and that he wouldnt be late this year. thats the whole point of this thread.


I havent heard if the final 4 got paid yet, when I do I will post the facts. i think they will, and hope they do

 

[Fatboy]

OK, not that it's any of my business, or that I care, but since this is your defense -- posted right here in the open for the world to see and presumably discuss -- I just have to ask: did you make restitution on the $600K?

Lou Figueroa

no i couldnt as the victims are all decesed now, so since I cant do anything about that, I try and be as generous as possible to others. thats the best I can do. and yes i'm very remorseful and the guys who worked the boiler rooms with me feel the same, as we still know each other, a few guys dissappeared and a very few have no remorse. Most of us do. I have gave away probably a million in gifts, help, etc to others as a result of my remorse. hell I gave measure man a cue cause everyone was making fun of his Lucasi thread 2 weeks ago rite here on AZ. I am giving Ray Martins grand kids his Szam when I'm old and dieing, I gave his daughter my word on that, you guys just dont get it.

and BTW your line between me and Harry was WAY off, I did lose 3 games in 5 hours.

 

[Fatboy]

Someone please explaine to me the difference between going into a pool room stalling to get a game then robbing the guy. And picking up the phone telling a tall tail to someone and have them sending you their $$$.

In both cases its money obtained under false pretenses.


If I came on here and said I made a $1000score playing one hole ast night i'm a hero, if I said I talked someone into wireing me $1000 I'm a criminal. please clarify this for me.

And who in the world tells the truth at a poker table?

or when a casino busts a degenerate gambler and they lose it all, remember I live in Vegas and seen that happen many times. yet casino's are never considered bad guys.



Clear all that up for me someone, please.

whats the difference????????smart guys

 

[somms69]

Someone please explaine to me the difference between going into a pool room stalling to get a game then robbing the guy. And picking up the phone telling a tall tail to someone and have them sending you their $$$.

In both cases its money obtained under false pretenses.


If I came on here and said I made a $1000score playing one hole ast night i'm a hero, if I said I talked someone into wireing me $1000 I'm a criminal. please clarify this for me.

And who in the world tells the truth at a poker table?

or when a casino busts a degenerate gambler and they lose it all, remember I live in Vegas and seen that happen many times. yet casino's are never considered bad guys.



Clear all that up for me someone, please.

whats the difference????????smart guys

IMO, you're exactly right it is money obtained under false pretenses. The difference to me would be that gamblers in general, be it pool or casinos, willingly enter into an environment where it is understood that everyone is trying to win and moves are part of the game, that there is risk involved with every transaction. Old people, most who presumably live on pensions or in retirement homes, aren't used to entering into every transaction they make with the threat of getting ripped off. They are of a different generation and didn't grown up facing what we take for granted today. Some of them undoubtedly have weakened mental faculties, memory loss, loneliness from watching their peers die, and are looking to be part of something, etc. There is a difference.

todd

 

[ribdoner]

Someone please explaine to me the difference between going into a pool room stalling to get a game then robbing the guy. And picking up the phone telling a tall tail to someone and have them sending you their $$$.

In both cases its money obtained under false pretenses.


If I came on here and said I made a $1000score playing one hole ast night i'm a hero, if I said I talked someone into wireing me $1000 I'm a criminal. please clarify this for me.

And who in the world tells the truth at a poker table?

or when a casino busts a degenerate gambler and they lose it all, remember I live in Vegas and seen that happen many times. yet casino's are never considered bad guys.



Clear all that up for me someone, please.

whats the difference????????smart guys

E,

The majority of the malletheads who knock you on a personel level are has beens that never were or wanna b's that are still wet behind the ears. i don't think any have the moxie and skill set necessary to navigate the waters you spent years sailing.

As with most of us there may be a couple of dark chapters in the book but it's obvious your at peace with your body of work.

Kudos, A

 

[mlalum]

no i couldnt as the victims are all decesed now, so since I cant do anything about that, I try and be as generous as possible to others. thats the best I can do. and yes i'm very remorseful and the guys who worked the boiler rooms with me feel the same, as we still know each other, a few guys dissappeared and a very few have no remorse. Most of us do. I have gave away probably a million in gifts, help, etc to others as a result of my remorse. hell I gave measure man a cue cause everyone was making fun of his Lucasi thread 2 weeks ago rite here on AZ. I am giving Ray Martins grand kids his Szam when I'm old and dieing, I gave his daughter my word on that, you guys just dont get it.

and BTW your line between me and Harry was WAY off, I did lose 3 games in 5 hours.

I think you're the one that doesn't get it.

First of all you don't have to answer to anybody. There's no reason to on a forum like this. But you choose to which is your choice. Either way is fine with me.

But blaming the negative posts on people who live paycheck to paycheck and are jealous of you is arrogant and out of touch. You get negative posts because people perceive you as a self-promoter and a person who seems to find endless ways to get their wealth into a post. Not every person on this forum is broke but they don't spend a lot time talking about it to bask in whatever.

And there's the constant complaints that you haven't made a dollar in income the last two years yet you brag about multimillion net worth and that you live in a mansion. Poor little rich boy.

It's not very pretty fatboy. That's why people react, not jealousy.

And not to mention you made a serious charge against the tournament promoter yet nobody's complained about not getting paid.

 

[Jason Robichaud]

ouch my head....

 

[Fatboy]

IMO, you're exactly right it is money obtained under false pretenses. The difference to me would be that gamblers in general, be it pool or casinos, willingly enter into an environment where it is understood that everyone is trying to win and moves are part of the game, that there is risk involved with every transaction. Old people, most who presumably live on pensions or in retirement homes, aren't used to entering into every transaction they make with the threat of getting ripped off. They are of a different generation and didn't grown up facing what we take for granted today. Some of them undoubtedly have weakened mental faculties, memory loss, loneliness from watching their peers die, and are looking to be part of something, etc. There is a difference.

todd

i never sold senile people, some guys did. their greed is what got them, the greeder they are the harder they fell, just like in a casino-bet more(greed) lose more.