Dirty shafts in the for sale section

Str8PoolPlayer

“1966 500 SuperFast”
Silver Member
The blue is fine. It's just pigment. But consider this: the guy who doesn't clean his shaft occasionally probably doesn't wash his hands very often and after that, let's imagine what multiple visits to Jack in the Box for a pair of greasy 99 cent tacos produce and the subsequent indigestion and visits to the toilet and sleeping over at his his skanky girlfriend's place produce and what else is on that shaft that doesn't pop out at you that the blue hides.

Chris

My Sentiments ..... EXACTLY !!!
 

jetlau3

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
the playing shaft on my cue is very blue from use throughout the last 5 years. If I have no plans on selling it, is there any harm in it being blue?

I don't use sandpaper or magic eraser on the shaft.. the only maintenance it gets is a burnishing with a leather pad and a wipe down every once in a while.

please advise.
 

TheNewSharkster

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
any place that has a lathe should be able to make the shaft look like new. If I were selling a cue I would pay the local cue place $15 to do this
 

TheBook

Ret Professional Goof Off
Silver Member
The seller may be trying to represent the cue's true condition. He may not want to mislead anyone that the cue is brand new or has never been used and then have the buyer cry about something after getting it. There are a few buyers on AZ that always complain about the condition after receiving a cue trying to knock off a few more hundred when there is nothing wrong with it.

As you state it is nothing to clean it so it can be the buyer's option.
 

evanlockhart

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
The blue is fine. It's just pigment. But consider this: the guy who doesn't clean his shaft occasionally probably doesn't wash his hands very often and after that, let's imagine what multiple visits to Jack in the Box for a pair of greasy 99 cent tacos produce and the subsequent indigestion and visits to the toilet and sleeping over at his his skanky girlfriend's place produce and what else is on that shaft that doesn't pop out at you that the blue hides.
Chris

I stopped cleaning my shaft after experiencing a better "feel" to a dirty one. And I wash my hands more than any of you combined, i'm sure. Soap in my bathroom, soap at work, germ-x at my desk. Disinfectant wipes at my cube, at home. My shaft gets a wipe down with a paper towel after every use at the pool hall, but you're right - most people just throw their shaft in their case. I hardly even see people wipe the excess chalk off the tip

For this reason, it doesn't bother me that a used shaft is blue, as long as it rolls true
 

cuejo

Cue Repair tech
Silver Member
There are a few posts on this thread that infer that cleaning your shaft somehow reduces the diameter of the shaft...........

I would be curious as to how this "cleaning" is happening.

Any competent cue repairman should not be using sandpaper to remove chalk residue and dirt from the shaft, thereby reducing shaft diameter.

All of the cleaning products available will clean without removing wood, the only sandpaper I use on the shaft during cleaning, is a 1" chunk or so of 600, to knock down the grain after cleaning.

I am unaware of any tangible amount of wood that actually gets removed.
 
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thejeffcho

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
5 minutes with a Mr. Clean eraser and a good buff with leather and the shaft will present itself better.

Really it's that easy? Somehow I just can't get the blue off the shaft using the Q-clean products. I try to avoid using a sand paper, even the fine grade ones (Q-smooth), as much as possible, but even then the blue won't come off.

Maybe I should just start using brown chalks.
 

cuejo

Cue Repair tech
Silver Member
Try the shaft cleaner from unique products, absolutely the best shaft cleaner available
 

sengkun108

sengkun108
Silver Member
Yep. I will actually use sandpaper (600-100-1500 grit) to remove slight amounts of wood to keep my shafts clean and slick. I know this freaks many people out, but if eventually my shaft becomes so thin it's unplayable, I will buy a new shaft. This is called supporting the industry. Now keep in mind, I'm not talking about a collectors grade of cue here, I'm talking about my regular player. I've been doing this for a few years now with my playing shafts and there is not enough evidence of thinning to make me concerned in the least. C'mon people, these shafts aren't Picasso's !!!

Maniac


SO TRUE....Great POst

I use a magic eraser to clean my shaft.. i clean it after 3-5 play.

if 2-3 years from now, my shaft bend or have a roll then i will buy a new shafts. Cmonn, it's only 150-300$ product and you have 3 years to use it.
Do you feel comfortable play with the blue and dirty one? ask your self.
If many of you ended up to comfortable with the dirty and blue seasoned one. Maybe i will suggest all the cuemaker and dealer to sell their cue with the blue and seasoned shafts and raise the price LOL...

if someone don't have any concern about his equipment for even to clean it. that person must be treat their equipment not good. That's is my opinion.
 

M HOUSE

New member
Silver Member
Paper towels are free

I stopped cleaning my shaft after experiencing a better "feel" to a dirty one. And I wash my hands more than any of you combined, i'm sure. Soap in my bathroom, soap at work, germ-x at my desk. Disinfectant wipes at my cube, at home. My shaft gets a wipe down with a paper towel after every use at the pool hall, but you're right - most people just throw their shaft in their case. I hardly even see people wipe the excess chalk off the tip

For this reason, it doesn't bother me that a used shaft is blue, as long as it rolls true

I'll try to make this story as short as possible so as to not bore anyone. Back in '87 I moved to Houston and hung out at the same room as one of the greatest players of his era, Jack Breit, known to the pool world as Jersey Red. We became good friends and even wound up going to work at the same place. There was this owner of a huge finance company that could best be described as a "Pool Nut". In this case,a very wealthy pool nut. He just loved being aroud pool players and he got Red and me to go to work for him. I did some repo work and Red, well Red got paid to hang around the pool table in the office and tell pool stories all day. Other than playing great, telling pool stories was what Red did best, so his money was well-earned. The point here is that we got to play a lot of pool, both at work and later in the local rooms. I had a Huebler that I had been playing with for years and the shaft was very well seasoned. Red loved the way it hit and would often use my cue instead of his when he matched up for the cash. By the way Red was only a year and a half post heart attack but he still played world class one pocket. He was playing the best players in the Houston area 8-No Count and still getting the cash.

One day we're sitting in the pool room and a customer comes in that had just been to the local billiard supply store. He had a little bottle of the "latest, greatest shaft cleaner". He put some on his cue, then handed me the bottle and said, "Try this, it really works". At this point Red leaned in and said, "If you put that crap on your cue, I'm gonna knock you outta that chair!" I felt he was only half kidding so I handed the bottle right back to the customer. Red went on to explain that it takes years to get a shaft seasoned just right and once that's done all that should ever be done is to wipe them down with a paper towel which can be found in the bathrooms of any pool room, and in Red's words, "they are free"....
 

Blackjack

Illuminati Blacksmack
Silver Member
I'll try to make this story as short as possible so as to not bore anyone. Back in '87 I moved to Houston and hung out at the same room as one of the greatest players of his era, Jack Breit, known to the pool world as Jersey Red. We became good friends and even wound up going to work at the same place. There was this owner of a huge finance company that could best be described as a "Pool Nut". In this case,a very wealthy pool nut. He just loved being aroud pool players and he got Red and me to go to work for him. I did some repo work and Red, well Red got paid to hang around the pool table in the office and tell pool stories all day. Other than playing great, telling pool stories was what Red did best, so his money was well-earned. The point here is that we got to play a lot of pool, both at work and later in the local rooms. I had a Huebler that I had been playing with for years and the shaft was very well seasoned. Red loved the way it hit and would often use my cue instead of his when he matched up for the cash. By the way Red was only a year and a half post heart attack but he still played world class one pocket. He was playing the best players in the Houston area 8-No Count and still getting the cash.

One day we're sitting in the pool room and a customer comes in that had just been to the local billiard supply store. He had a little bottle of the "latest, greatest shaft cleaner". He put some on his cue, then handed me the bottle and said, "Try this, it really works". At this point Red leaned in and said, "If you put that crap on your cue, I'm gonna knock you outta that chair!" I felt he was only half kidding so I handed the bottle right back to the customer. Red went on to explain that it takes years to get a shaft seasoned just right and once that's done all that should ever be done is to wipe them down with a paper towel which can be found in the bathrooms of any pool room, and in Red's words, "they are free"....

Mike, I hope all is well with you - I really miss hanging out and hearing all of these great stories!
 

TheNewSharkster

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
The seller may be trying to represent the cue's true condition. He may not want to mislead anyone that the cue is brand new or has never been used and then have the buyer cry about something after getting it. There are a few buyers on AZ that always complain about the condition after receiving a cue trying to knock off a few more hundred when there is nothing wrong with it.

As you state it is nothing to clean it so it can be the buyer's option.



Cleaning the shaft prior to selling a cue isn't misleading. That would be like saying that washing your car before selling it is misleading. In both cases it doesn't change the fact that it is used. If the seller tries to say it is new that would be misleading.
 

measureman

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
A lot of different opinions on this issue. I personally like a clean white shaft. In fact every cue I have ever bought has had a clean (no grain marks)very white shaft. Thats how I like them. And I clean my shafts when they show the slightest bit of dirt.
 

Black-Balled

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I'd rather buy a cue with blue shafts than one with the shafts cleaned by someone who has no idea what they are doing.

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I was gonna say the same thing, but from a slightly different perspective:
I have screwed up more than a few things I wanted to sell 'shining them up' for selling.

I need the blue anyway, how else can I see the end of the shaft?!
 

Eric Wynne

Banned
People who like dirty shafts also like dirty tables . Same people use blue chalk with green felt . Or they like red...:angry: Why ??? Pelicans ... Waste of life !!!:angry::confused::(
 

JolietJames

Boot Party Coordinator
Silver Member
Cleaning the shaft prior to selling a cue isn't misleading. That would be like saying that washing your car before selling it is misleading. In both cases it doesn't change the fact that it is used. If the seller tries to say it is new that would be misleading.

Wow
What a stupid post.
Haha just kidding Sharkster.
I agree with your car analogy and will add that a clean item makes it easier to see flaws and imperfections.
ChicagoRJ said it right earlier about buying something someone didn't thinkn was worth enough to maintain. They do not clean it AND they don't want it. Well then I don't want it either.
 

TheNewSharkster

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Wow
What a stupid post.
Haha just kidding Sharkster.
I agree with your car analogy and will add that a clean item makes it easier to see flaws and imperfections.
ChicagoRJ said it right earlier about buying something someone didn't thinkn was worth enough to maintain. They do not clean it AND they don't want it. Well then I don't want it either.



LMAO!

I almost spit soda on my monitor when I read that post :D
 

KRJ

Support UKRAINE
Silver Member
Hmmmm

Plus, unlike any other sport in the world, our equipment is also functional art, that can increase in value, or least hold its value, over time...

Thus, I like to keep all my "nice" things shiny and new. My car is detailed three times a year and then washed at least twice a week whether it needs it or not. Same with my shafts... nothing more disgusting then seeing a guy shoot with a fine cue, and the shaft is filthy, the ferrule has a thick blue ring stain...... Heck, I even clean my sneaky petes !!!!

And I only use Silver Cup olive green chalk to keep it from "blueing"..... yet the green chalk does not mess up the tables at the hall if they have any shade of green cloth.... I keep a piece of tan chalk for the few times I run into some place or a persons house that has "RED" cloth.......yikes,,,i hate that stuff...
 
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