disgraceful is what it is!!!!

cleary said:
Look buddy, Im not attacking Grady. Im simply saying if he wasnt invited... and he wanted to play that bad, he should have qualitfied. Instead of talking about it, he should do something about it. I was by no means taking a shot at Grady. I understand who he is and what he has done....I was just saying if he is upset about it, do something about it. WIN YOUR BATTLES ON THE TABLE.

I'm not your damn buddy, and yes you did knock Grady and you knocked Pat Fleming, two guys that do more for the game of pool than your big mouth. Grady has won quite a few World Championship battles at the table, what more does he have to prove to meet your standards or anybody else's? If you can do a better job, get off your ass and prove it like Jay said. Until then, you're just a knocker.
 
jay helfert said:
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What are my credentials? Lets just say, if you watch tv.... you have seen my work. Ive made something for almost every major network....MTV, Comedy Central, HBO, NBC, CBS, Discovery Channel, A&E, ESPN, as well as countless other clients. I think I know what Im talking about when it comes to quality. One of the biggest reason why poker is so popular right now is because of "the world series of poker"....... a show I have done work for. I know what it takes to make something worth watching to the general public and if someone has the funding, Ill be right there.

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Congratulations. And you're still a KNOCKER! Big time! I don't care if you filmed the coronation of the last Pope, you don't get my vote. If you truly cared about the coverage of Pool, you would be doing something other than criticizing Accu-Stats. I have a novel concept, Mr. big time television producer. Why don't you offer to help Pat out, and share some of your expertise with him. Oh, that's right, you want to get paid. How silly of me.

I would rather hear your opinion on the coverage of Pool that's being done for ESPN. Maybe you didn't realize that Accu-Stats does not make television programming. They make DVD's. Somehow I am beginning to get a "read" on you. You aren't the producer of anything are you. You are a working stiff, maybe a technician or even a cameraman. You're a wannabe producer, and a part time knocker. Good luck with your new career. Guys like you are a dime a dozen.

P.S. If that's you in the photo, I can see you can't play a lick either. Also a part time pool imposter as well. Tell us how good you play.

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I dont want to take sides this pissing contest, but Jay calls the guy on his production credentials, Cleary gives plenty of credentials to make his opinion have merit, Jay still scoffs at those credentials :rolleyes: Sounds like AD hominum if anything. U got to luv it :o

Brian
 
cleary said:
What are my credentials? Lets just say, if you watch tv.... you have seen my work. Ive made something for almost every major network....MTV, Comedy Central, HBO, NBC, CBS, Discovery Channel, A&E, ESPN, as well as countless other clients. I think I know what Im talking about when it comes to quality. One of the biggest reason why poker is so popular right now is because of "the world series of poker"....... a show I have done work for. I know what it takes to make something worth watching to the general public and if someone has the funding, Ill be right there.

This guy's comments are really tickling my funny bone! :D

In case you didn't know, WSOP and other poker TV shows are on TV thanks to the monies invested by non-poker-related sponsors, like Hershey's Candies, Hertz, Planter's Peanuts, and many others I can't think of right now.

It is because of the OUTSIDE non-poker-related monies that poker is on TV as often as it is. These sponsors want to see their NAME BRAND on TV, which is why they spend monies for these poker TV shows.

Pool, on the other hand, is sponsored by POOL-related monies. The pool industry members are already stretched thin and only have so much in their bankroll for advertising. There are no OUTSIDE pool-related sponsors to speak of, which is why POOL isn't on TV except at times during the day when everybody is at work or at night when everybody is asleep. :(

I've got a brilliant idea where you can show us all how it's done. Like Grady Mathews has done, investing his life in the game of pool, promoting pool tournaments with little chance to break even, and traveling around the country putting on exhibitions all in the name of pool, why don't you do the same. Create a pool TV broadcast and show us all how it's done, but do it in the name of pool for free.

Oh, you're 25 years old? You weren't even an itch in your daddy's pants yet when Grady Mathews was winning world-championship one-pocket titles. :D

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HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!
HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!
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If it walks like a computer-sniping sucker-punching monkey, writes like a computer-sniping sucker-punching monkey....

JAM
 
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cleary said:
I know what it takes to make something worth watching to the general public and if someone has the funding, Ill be right there.

You'll never get the chance to make something worthwhile to pool. You're way too negative, rude, disrespectful and insulting.
 
cleary said:
First of all, Accustats as a video production company is like a bunch of damn monkeys trying to launch a spaceship. They are a joke. Just horrible, have no idea what they are doing and should find new jobs. They make pool look bad to the whole world on national tv. They kill the sport....rob it of its beauty.

I strongly disagree with just about this entire paragraph. I honestly cannot believe you just posted this.
 
This is now the 14th thread devoted to UPA and Charlie Williams bashing...
 

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Accu-stats is the reason why there ARE so many good pool players these days. As a vehicle for learning the various billiard disciplines it has been unsurpassed. That is why I tell all these guys looking for instructors, "Buy accu-stats and pay attention."

This guy is just a braggart, attempting to flaunt his fraudulent credentials on here as if he will impress anyone. Sorry bud, but Accu-stats has been around for 20+ years and has done more for pool than you ever will. Others have done their own things as well, namely TheActionReport.com and ProPoolVideo.com and believe me when I say there is plenty of room for ALL! Is it ESPN quality? No...but nobody is asking for that. We're happy to see these great players knocking balls in the hole with some decent commentary. I don't need to see an interview with their life history, or seeing them throw playing cards through melons (my little tribute to Chris Ferguson). Save that for the WSOP.

Judging from your avatar I'll bet you can't play a lick, so you need to sit back and try to learn something from these forums rather than running your mouth at the first opportunity you get, especially to say something as idiotic as you have about a company that pool players view as in INSTITUTION in pool and end up looking like a douchebag. Just don't say anything else in this thread and try and save face.

Good day sir, I said GOOD DAY!
 
APA7 said:
I dont want to take sides this pissing contest, but Jay calls the guy on his production credentials, Cleary gives plenty of credentials to make his opinion have merit, Jay still scoffs at those credentials :rolleyes: Sounds like AD hominum if anything. U got to luv it :o

Brian

Brian, you're awfully naive my friend. I have news for you. He could be making it all up. I've seen this act before. No name, no specific shows, no production credits. So far, just name dropping of television networks.

Brian, do you know that in the last 25 years, I have worked on several dozen television shows? And a few movies also. I'm not a guy in a diner either.
 
jay helfert said:
... I have worked on several dozen television shows? And a few movies also. I'm not a guy in a diner either.

Damn... as long as they pay you, what's wrong with being a guy in a diner? lol (once was a guy in a diner)...
 
cleary said:
Look buddy, Im not attacking Grady. Im simply saying if he wasnt invited... and he wanted to play that bad, he should have qualitfied. Instead of talking about it, he should do something about it. I was by no means taking a shot at Grady. I understand who he is and what he has done....I was just saying if he is upset about it, do something about it. WIN YOUR BATTLES ON THE TABLE.
Just to set the record straight, Grady did play in at least one qualifier, but came up short.

Grady has come on this forum, and others, numerous times and complained about not being invited to certain events.
I mean no disrespect to Grady, and his history, but he is not the player he once was. He is no longer a contender to win major tournaments and he is definitely not high on the invite list of players. IMHO, Grady has to accept his status as a senior citizen, in the pool community, and realize that he will not be invited to premier events.
 
Blackjack said:
Damn... as long as they pay you, what's wrong with being a guy in a diner? lol (once was a guy in a diner)...

You know David, whoever this Queary guy is, he is also very confused. He thinks Accu-Stats is responsible for the pool programming we see on ESPN.
Too bad he didn't do any research before he went on here and started blasting away. But knockers are like that. They are anxious to let others know how much they know. Or how little, which could be the case here.
 
Rich R. said:
Just to set the record straight, Grady did play in at least one qualifier, but came up short.

Grady has come on this forum, and others, numerous times and complained about not being invited to certain events.
I mean no disrespect to Grady, and his history, but he is not the player he once was. He is no longer a contender to win major tournaments and he is definitely not high on the invite list of players. IMHO, Grady has to accept his status as a senior citizen, in the pool community, and realize that he will not be invited to premier events.
If this is true how then was Megan Minrich invited last year?
 
Its also not that he can be and likely is full of shit about his credentials, but even if he was Francis Ford Coppola himself all he has done is present a negative opinion with no suggestions at all. Its the easiest thing in the world to be a badmouther, it takes real character and drive to actually try to make a difference.

Accustats has never had huge sponsors who drop millions into their production budgets, it has never had the support of bigshot hollywood producers. What Pat has produced has largely been the result of his love for the game and it shows. You think its easy to play in a week long 400 player tournament? Try running a small team who try to capture matches with live commentary from the morning matches to the the last evening matches, all week long. Then try to do it again and again for YEARS. Then try to do it for decades.

Yeah its easy to make great productions when you are dealing with tons of staff and 7 figure production budgets. Accustats has never had that luxury and their product is still the best the pool world has ever had, much much better than anything skysports or espn has EVER produced.

Jay has hit this on the head..you ARE a Knocker.
 
jay helfert said:
Brian, you're awfully naive my friend. I have news for you. He could be making it all up. I've seen this act before. No name, no specific shows, no production credits. So far, just name dropping of television networks.

Brian, do you know that in the last 25 years, I have worked on several dozen television shows? And a few movies also. I'm not a guy in a diner either.

Here's a funny story, Jay. Did you know that after TCOM came and went, Keith got a one-liner in a movie about Ninja Turtles? I can't remember the name of the movie, but it was a bomb. Keith had one line, "Help. I'm on fire." And that was it. :D

JAM
 
EL'nino said:
If this is true how then was Megan Minrich invited last year?

There's a few other names which could be mentioned as well.

Friend of a friend of a friend.

"WORLD" championship? LOL!

JAM
 
jay helfert said:
You know David, whoever this Queary guy is, he is also very confused. He thinks Accu-Stats is responsible for the pool programming we see on ESPN.
Too bad he didn't do any research before he went on here and started blasting away. But knockers are like that. They are anxious to let others know how much they know. Or how little, which could be the case here.

Exactly, and FTR - it was "Katz's Deli"... the spot where Meg Ryan did the fake orgasm scene in When Harry Met Sally... just a fun fact to know and tell - and no - I wasn't in the movie.
 
Roy Steffensen said:
There were also qualifiers for the World 14-1 Championship

Grady-

I have a lot of respect for you - and you're one of my favorite players... but Roy is right here. There were a number of qualifiers for this event. If the UPA didn't invite you and you feel that was unjust.... NOTHING is a better stuff it up their A** than winning a qualifier and then going on to win the event. If you can't win the qualifier--- no harm, no foul right?

You're a good promoter, Grady. Make your own 14.1 event. Call it the Intergalactic 14.1 Championship... since they have the world championship. I'm a firm believer if you don't like what someone is doing, do it better yourself. Invite the world, except for Charlie if it makes you feel better. I'll buy tickets... and so would everyone else. Hook it up, Grady!
 
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JAM said:
There's a few other names which could be mentioned as well.

Friend of a friend of a friend.

"WORLD" championship? LOL!

JAM
That was in no way a shot a Megan, but an argument on Grady's behalf
 
EL'nino said:
That was in no way a shot a Megan, but an argument on Grady's behalf

I understand where you're coming from! :)

Maybe Grady should come to the next pool event with his breasts half-exposed and wear a bikini.

Sex sells better than pool does today, doesn't it? Sad, but true!

JAM
 
JAM said:
Here's a funny story, Jay. Did you know that after TCOM came and went, Keith got a one-liner in a movie about Ninja Turtles? I can't remember the name of the movie, but it was a bomb. Keith had one line, "Help. I'm on fire." And that was it. :D

JAM

Now, that is funny. I hope you have this on tape somewhere. Did he get his SAG card? Forget it, I know the answer to this one. He should have is all I have to say. That is a coveted card in Hollywood.
 
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