disgraceful is what it is!!!!
- Thread starter Grady
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Smorgass Bored said:LOL !
Plenty of credentials ? Like these:
Cleary
Age:
25
Location:
new york city
Interests:
8ball 9ball
Occupation:
motion graphics artist
doug
( maybe he can add the bad Rep that I gave him to his resume...... )
Thanks Doug. How was my "read"? Scary huh.
Check my post #40. He disappeared after that one. Now that's "Poker" baby!
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Jorge Torres said:
The dirty rat, going around and telling everybody he is a 9-Ball player.
As far as you're concerned, I'm changing your name to GEORGE!
Maybe Double George!
Dejavu anyone?This happened last year and i am glad i didnt read through the whole thread and waste my time with the whining.
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Grady said:
I'm with you there Grady, I can't stand lil' Chucky either
cleary said:
And by looking through some of his posts I find this gem in reference to Poolhall Junkies...
"Any movie about pool.... and this IS a movie about pool, is good for the sport. I can honestly say this movie REALLY got me into the game. Now that I have learned and studied the history of the game, I understand why you dont like this film. But the fact of the matter is, It promotes pool."
A little contradictory? Accu-stats has been promoting pool for many years and produce a fine product. A much finer product than you would find in that piece of junk movie. If you are the epitome of everyone who joined the game because of that movie then they can all just go back to whatever gutter they crawled out of.
EL'nino said:
I THINK the UPA wanted a few women in the event that can play. Megan's high run is 99, which isn't world-caliber - but very good for a woman. Personally, the only woman with a snowball's chance is Jasmin Ouschan - but they still needed a few more women.
On a personal note, I agree with you. If someone gets an invite, male/female - they should have a chance. Otherwise, make them qualify. Hopkins is upper 50's but each year he's made it to the final 16--- last year he got 7th or something like that. Mike Sigel was undefeated for the longest time and as soon as they went to knock-out phase, Harriman beat him 150-149 or something like that and Mike went nuts. Bottom line is older guys CAN win.
I disagree with their invite logic - as does Grady and everyone else. My only legitimate point is if you're not on the "COOL" list--- go qualify. Hey, if you can't beat them, go around them and make your own tourney.
ANYONE that doesnt think that Accu-stats hasnt help promote the games (9 ball, one pocket, banks,etc.) and has helped educate up and coming players of all levels, through the matches themselves and the commentary, is just plain IGNORNAT. See what you can learn from Mitch Lawrence watching ESPN. JMO.
Southpaw
Southpaw
I am a little confused and please forgive my ignorance... Back in post 31, Blackjack mentions this event was not a UPA event. I think it's mentioned a few other times as well. Where does the UPA come in to play as far as invites? Was everyone that played in the event a UPA member or insider or something?
Sorry in advance, just trying to make a little sense of this thread.
Thanks,
Craig
Sorry in advance, just trying to make a little sense of this thread.
Thanks,
Craig
Jorge Torres said:
In 1981 I went into Peg's Pocket in Miami with some friends. We were searching for our high school cheerleaders who hung out there. While my friends and I were getting shot down by these girls, I noticed a small crowd on the other side of the pool room huddled near this one table. Tired of getting nowhere with the Spartanettes, I walked over and sat down to see what they were watching. It was a straight pool match between John Ditoro and Tom Brown. Race to 100 for $100 as I recall. I don't remember who won that match but I do remember that while I watched this match, a major light bulb started glowing inside my head. Up until then, I had never realized that pool could be played at this high level and that incredibly talented players were right here in Miami. The next day I rode my bike 5 miles back to the Peg's pocket and my lifelong addiction to pool began.
Over the years John has beaten me for the cash so many times I have lost count, and if I have won any matchup with him the memory of that event eludes me. I may in fact be batting a lifetime "0"fer againt him. John had the occasionally used road name of "Tony Tide" and whenever I played him it certainly felt like the Tide was rolling in againt me. Ditoro is a great player, triple smart at matching up and a great guy. I feel very privileged to have learned to play pool in a room that he called home court.
DeadPoked said:
DP, he was just one more goofball ground hog who stuck his head up for a minute before diving back into his hole.
Sad to say, he may have had something to offer. But like someone else said, he went about it in entirely the wrong way.
and now Accu-Stats has decided to drop to that level (ESPN Mitch Lawrence) and go with Jimmy Wych over Grady.... Accu-Stats was once the single greatest learning tool on the market but with Managment decisions like that have really fallen off.Southpaw said:
That 200 US Open grand prize fire post was absolutely hilarious!
I think SJM summed up my thoughts on these threads very well. I don't think these kind of threads serve pool very well, they just leave lots of baby toys on the forum floor.
My understanding is the WPA sanctioned 14.1 world championships had 64 spots.
- 16 spots when to the top 16 finishers at last years events.
- 16 spots went to qualifiers at the OPEN qualifying events.
- 32 spots went to the WPA who invited players based on world and country ranking lists.
I'm guessing there was some wild card spots for the promoter/organizer etc and maybe more when invited players didn't accept their invite.
I don't like invite only events, my opinion on this is well documented and consistent. However in this particular event I'm not sure how they could have improved it?
As you can see there are only a small number of spots for each nation, players like our own SJM who wasn't invited based on his current world or US ranking did it the hard way and earned their spot.
I know Grady has a great history or success, I honestly don't know but would he be ranked in the top 5 say in America at 14.1 today? Not a bashing just curious?
I think SJM summed up my thoughts on these threads very well. I don't think these kind of threads serve pool very well, they just leave lots of baby toys on the forum floor.
My understanding is the WPA sanctioned 14.1 world championships had 64 spots.
- 16 spots when to the top 16 finishers at last years events.
- 16 spots went to qualifiers at the OPEN qualifying events.
- 32 spots went to the WPA who invited players based on world and country ranking lists.
I'm guessing there was some wild card spots for the promoter/organizer etc and maybe more when invited players didn't accept their invite.
I don't like invite only events, my opinion on this is well documented and consistent. However in this particular event I'm not sure how they could have improved it?
As you can see there are only a small number of spots for each nation, players like our own SJM who wasn't invited based on his current world or US ranking did it the hard way and earned their spot.
I know Grady has a great history or success, I honestly don't know but would he be ranked in the top 5 say in America at 14.1 today? Not a bashing just curious?
cleary said:
He's back for more. Just a squirrel looking for a nut. Don't you have a major motion picture to produce?
Irish634 said:
Craig
The World 14.1 Championship is an event that is put on by Randy Goldwater with Dragon Promotions. This event has absolutely nothing to do with the UPA. The fact that Dragon Promotions (which is a company owned and lead by Charlie Williams) promotes this event is what leads many to believe that the UPA is involved with it. Charlie is not on the UPA Board, or involved with the day-day activities of the UPA (anymore) as far as I know. However Dragon Promotions is the company that promotes the UPA events, and IMO, they do an excellent job.
The questions in this thread pertain to the invites for the event - and the fact that some players qualified to play in the event. I believe that Randy Goldwater followed the guidelines set down by the WPA to sanction this event - I could be wrong about that, if I am somebody please correct me.
This event is only 2 years old. I would like to see it continue as I love the game of straight pool. If Grady wants to put on one of his own events, I will support that too, because of my love for the game, not because of my allegiance to any person or person(s) politically. I would hope that teh interest in straight pool will continue and that teh game will flourish in years to come.
I appreciate everything that Accu-Stats, BcN, and ProPoolVideo has done to cover these events - and I have spoken to Jorge Torres about possibly helping with the commentary in future - flood his inbox with pm's if you want that to see that happen - I have no problem doing it for free to keep his costs down.
Blackjack said:
Thank you Dave. That makes this thread a lot clearer for me. I guess I could have just done a search for the connection.
I also agree and appreciate everything everyone does to help promote the sport. We definitely need a lot more of it.
Ok... back to the shadows of reading
Craig