Do you consider follow and draw 'english'?

rackmsuckr

rackmsuckr

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About 35 years ago, I was taught that sidespin applied is called english. Follow and draw are just that. Hit the ball high, it follows, hit the ball low, it stops or draws. However, I read on this board many times where people call it top (or high) and bottom english. Is it just another regional difference?
 
Try making a poll.. I personally do not consider anything on the center vertical axis of the cue ball to be english.

In reality it's just something else that doesn't matter that we can argue about...
 
rackmsuckr said:
About 35 years ago, I was taught that sidespin applied is called english. Follow and draw are just that. Hit the ball high, it follows, hit the ball low, it stops or draws. However, I read on this board many times where people call it top (or high) and bottom english. Is it just another regional difference?
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To me follow is follow and draw is draw,
right or left is English 101. lol

no-sho
 
I call hit high and low english, but technically, I think only left or right qualifies as english.
 
From everything I have read in books follow/draw is not english. People sometimes make their own terminology, I know I do it once in a while.:)
 
rackmsuckr said:
About 35 years ago, I was taught that sidespin applied is called english. Follow and draw are just that. Hit the ball high, it follows, hit the ball low, it stops or draws. However, I read on this board many times where people call it top (or high) and bottom english. Is it just another regional difference?
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I usually only use the terms high and low english when in combination with side spin. For example, if using low-center, I woudn't call it low english, I'd call it draw. But using low-right, I wouldn't call it "draw and right english", I'd call it "low-right english".

-Andrew
 
No.
Kinda funny I've heard "center-english" from a pro on tv before.
They're the same stroke though imo. Just different tip location.
 
Andrew Manning said:
I usually only use the terms high and low english when in combination with side spin. For example, if using low-center, I woudn't call it low english, I'd call it draw. But using low-right, I wouldn't call it "draw and right english", I'd call it "low-right english".

-Andrew
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Same here. This is what I hear most often...
 
English = spin

There is sides spin (left and right).
And, there is top spin (follow) and back spin (draw).

And of course there are any of the combinations of top or back spin along with left or right spin (ie bottom left english).


Seems to me that we'd all be better served to just eliminate the "english" terminology and replace it with "spin" (ie Top right spin). Seems to be an archaic term that could be unnecessarily confusing to some/many.
 
Applying Engish to a ball means you are affecting the normal trajectory of one moving ball on a flat surface hitting a stationary ball.

So top, bottom, side spin applied to the cue ball is "english"

JMHO
 
body english

If I thrust my hips only forward or backwards is it still body english or do I need to have some sideways movement?
 
rackmsuckr said:
About 35 years ago, I was taught that sidespin applied is called english. Follow and draw are just that. Hit the ball high, it follows, hit the ball low, it stops or draws.
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This is correct. After all, who ever heard of BHD or BHF!:D :D :D

LMAO
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
 
Merriam-Webster

Just for grins, here's the dictionary definition:

"english: spin around the vertical axis deliberately imparted to a ball that is driven or rolled".

Growing up in Denver in the 60s, we pretty much defined english as any hit that was off center. So, to me, draw was english, as was follow. But, hey, whatever.

9BP
 
Jeff said:
Applying Engish to a ball means you are affecting the normal trajectory of one moving ball on a flat surface hitting a stationary ball.

So top, bottom, side spin applied to the cue ball is "english"

JMHO
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X2 - manipulating ball is english, or at least I thought that was the definition....
 
Jeff said:
Applying Engish to a ball means you are affecting the normal trajectory of one moving ball on a flat surface hitting a stationary ball.

So top, bottom, side spin applied to the cue ball is "english"

JMHO
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To heck with "english" lessons for today, I gotta start being a good boy so maybe Santa will bring me a couple (pair?) of "boy toys" ;) :D :D :D !!!

Maniac

p.s. I literally stopped eating my lunch and gawked at your avatar for a minute or so before continuing lunch (and yes, I washed my hands before continuing ;) ).
 
It doesn't really matter since we all know what we are talking about :)

BVal
 
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