Do you tip a TD who also played in the event?

Good point Super, tipping would only invite favoritism. I always thought the TD got some sort of percentage or flat rate pay, so I never considered tipping him.
 
It would be difficult to fade the appearance of impropriety.

Are there any other sports where players tip refs or TD's? I can't think of any.

I say no to tipping a TD. Well, maybe just tipping a beer with them. :thumbup:

Best,
Brian kc
 
I personally like to tip the TD, merely because they make sod all cash out of the day otherwise and I appreciate them putting the tournament on.
That being said, I understand how people don't like the gesture, as it could lead to favoritism on calls or the draw.

Speaking as someone who is competitive, but plays tournaments merely to have fun, I would be absolutely mortified if the fact that I tipped the TD meant that I would get any favoritism.
 
I personally like to tip the TD, merely because they make sod all cash out of the day otherwise and I appreciate them putting the tournament on.
That being said, I understand how people don't like the gesture, as it could lead to favoritism on calls or the draw.

Speaking as someone who is competitive, but plays tournaments merely to have fun, I would be absolutely mortified if the fact that I tipped the TD meant that I would get any favoritism.

I would be mortified, too. I think that would be a rare event, indeed.

However, the appearance to some that the guys who tip might get preferential treatment in some form or another, well, that would be a bit more common.

This is why I think it's best not to.

Best,
Brian kc
 
If I win at a local bar tournament, yes I tip sometimes. In a small bar tournament, the guy running the tournament doesn't get paid money...just free drinks. I appreciate him taking the time to run a tournament and sitting around all night for it to end.

In a big pool room tournament with good players, I'm never there long enough to be there at the end to leave a tip.:mad:
 
I think a tournament director should decline any offer of a tip from a player in the event.

The TD is the guy making up the flow chart, establishing the rules, and making calls during matches. He needs to remain unbiased and give no appearance of being biased. Accepting a tip from a player in one tournament can potentially lead to a conscious or subconcious bias in favor of that player, or the appearance of such a bias, in a future event.

TD's should be compensated in other ways, not from tips from players who did well in the event.

Basically this. When I take payouts and entries fees into consideration, it always seems like the difference is way too ridiculous to merely be covering green fees so I naturally assumed that the unaccounted $$ goes to the establishment/TD. I'm cool with that of course, but I won't tip the TD extra.
 
I had never done it or even thought about it until about a week ago. I won a local tournament and as we were getting paid, the guy who got second tipped the TD. It put me on the spot, so I tipped him too. I haven't done it since because I don't think it really deserves a tip. It seems that society has gotten to the point where we tip for everything. This is good for a business owner because they don't have to pay as much, but it's added cost to the consumer. I tip well at restaurants and in "traditional" tipping situations. Also, if I get exceptional service I will tip too, but it has to be EXCEPTIONAL! If I thought a TD did that sort of job, I may consider it. I haven't seen that yet.
 
No no no!

Most TD's that run events that aren't the owners of the room take a
percentage out of each event anyways and also comped a meal and
drink as it is.If I'm giving up any of my money ,it'll go the waiters or
waitresses that really need the extra cash.The TD,no way.
 
I used to run a local tourny and players would tip me from time to time. The house payed $20 for my services so it was nice to get a little extra coin. Usually it was $5.

Considering the time they take to organize everything and run the tourny I personally have no problem with it. It was absolutely not a expectation to get tipped.

At the end of the day if you feel the TD did a good job I don't see why not. Its just like any tip. As long as they don't play favorites it shouldn't hurt anything.
 
Since when should a tournament director get gratuity? I don't understand the logic behind that.
 
Here's the scenario that Mike is referring too here:

The TD scheduled the tournament, creates the flyers, posts in the local paper month's in advance, creates the event on Facebook, Email, Text messaging, rounds up players for many weeks in advance. The TD doesn't work at the establishment, but runs occasional tournaments for the establishment. The TD handles all the sign-ups (early and at the door), the money, gets the added money from the establishment, and pays out 100% of the entries plus the added money. The TD gets free food and drink from the Establishment, plus $35 entry into the event.

Tipping in general has been discussed on here numerous times. Many parts of the country do not tip at all and that's a shame. They also probably don't have the pool room adding 100% or Guaranteed money to each and every tournament like they do in Arizona. Most local tournaments in AZ are 200% payout!! And Monthly's are $500-$1000 added guaranteed by the bar, even if 10 people show up.

The Tipping in no way influences the TD in this scenario to go against anything in their character when it comes to running a fair tournament! We are not talking about thousands of dollars, but $10-$80 dollar range.

I won a $780 first place tourney a few months ago and tipped out the TD's the $80 for all the hassle, running a good tournament and staying till 4 a.m. to conclude. 2nd place also tipped out $50.

I think the question in this thread is, "IF you do normally tip out in a tournament, does the fact that the TD cashed change your mind, or do you tip like normal." (If you don't normally tip at all, this thread is not for you.)
 
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I tip for customer service. Its tough picturing a td following me around making sure I have a good time, coddling me, and giving me customer service. :confused:


That said I would be more than happy to buy them a drink and a shot at the end of a long tournament. I've done that before. Of course it's been so long since I've won a tournament it's tough to remember...



Edit: I can see where Jerry is coming from too, and he makes some good points. Consider me up in the air on this one, as I can see it both ways.
 
Here's the scenario that Mike is referring too here:

The TD scheduled the tournament, creates the flyers, posts in the local paper month's in advance, creates the event on Facebook, Email, Text messaging, rounds up players for many weeks in advance. The TD doesn't work at the establishment, but runs occasional tournaments for the establishment. The TD handles all the sign-ups (early and at the door), the money, gets the added money from the establishment, and pays out 100% of the entries plus the added money. The TD gets free food and drink from the Establishment, plus $35 entry into the event.

Tipping in general has been discussed on here numerous times. Many parts of the country do not tip at all and that's a shame. They also probably don't have the pool room adding 100% or Guaranteed money to each and every tournament like they do in Arizona. Most local tournaments in AZ are 200% payout!! And Monthly's are $500-$1000 added guaranteed by the bar, even if 10 people show up.

The Tipping in no way influences the TD in this scenario to go against anything in their character when it comes to running a fair tournament! We are not talking about thousands of dollars, but $10-$80 dollar range.

I won a $780 first place tourney a few months ago and tipped out the TD's the $80 for all the hassle, running a good tournament and staying till 4 a.m. to conclude. 2nd place also tipped out $50.

I think the question in this thread is, "IF you do normally tip out in a tournament, does the fact that the TD cashed change your mind, or do you tip like normal." (If you don't normally tip at all, this thread is not for you.)

What is the normal entry fee into the event if they are getting a reduced cost entry of $35 bucks?
 
I don't play in many events and I have to admit it never occurred to me to tip the TD, but I'm not really aware of how a TD is normally compensated for their services. 10% sounds like a lot though because if you think about it, this amounts to 10% of the prize pool if tipping is supposed to be customary.

Isn't that an awful lot sucked out of the purse going to the TD? Put another way, suppose an event advertises a total purse of $15K and stipulates $1,500 of this goes to the TD off the top and the rest to the players. Is this marketable? Hell, many players complain about green fees.

BTW, just asking. As I said, I don't have a lot of experience with this.
 
TD's

The room pays the TD to run a tournament, and usually not very much. I don't mind throwing the TD a $5 when I win.
 
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