Does anyone know why??

tigerseye

Kenny Wilson
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Does anyone know why the PGA rules of golf say, that anyone who accepts cash as a prize is no longer considered amatuer? They can return to an amatuer status after not playing in any professional tournaments for like 2 years and pay a fee to the PGA for the official paperwork stating they are now an amatuer.
 
tigerseye said:
Does anyone know why the PGA rules of golf say, that anyone who accepts cash as a prize is no longer considered amatuer? They can return to an amatuer status after not playing in any professional tournaments for like 2 years and pay a fee to the PGA for the official paperwork stating they are now an amatuer.
Me, me, me.....I know, I know....(raises hand)

'Cause golf ain't pool.:rolleyes:
 
It has something to do with the purity of the water. It's all explained in Dr Strangelove.
 
The ruling read something like this. You cannot recieve more than $750.00 in prize money in a event an still hold your amatuer status.---Smitty
 
From my experience...

Taken directly from the Rules of Golf
3-2. Prize Limits

a. General

An amateur golfer must not accept a prize (other than a symbolic prize) or prize voucher of retail value in excess of $750 or the equivalent, or such a lesser figure as may be decided by the USGA. This limit applies to the total prizes or prize vouchers received by an amateur golfer in any one competition or series of competitions.

Exception: A prize, including a cash prize, for a hole-in-one made while playing golf may exceed the above prize limit.



Also, the waiting period to get your amateur status back depends on how long you were a professional and how much money you have made. Typically, the limits are as follows, but there can always be an exception made by the committee for either a shorter or longer wait until reinstatement.

The money paid for reinstatement is payed to the USGA not the PGA.

I was a professional for 15 years, but for the last 7 I was a Division I coach, so when I applied for reinstatement, they considered my time as coaching time served and reinstated me immediately. Had I played in tournaments while coaching, this would not have been the case.

Hope this answered your question.

Mark
 
Bluesteel said:
Taken directly from the Rules of Golf
3-2. Prize Limits

a. General

An amateur golfer must not accept a prize (other than a symbolic prize) or prize voucher of retail value in excess of $750 or the equivalent, or such a lesser figure as may be decided by the USGA. This limit applies to the total prizes or prize vouchers received by an amateur golfer in any one competition or series of competitions.


So does this mean if someone wins a golf tourney and the 1st prize giveaway is the newest irons out that may be worth say $799.00. That person is now considered non-amatuer??
 
Bluesteel said:
... An amateur golfer must not accept a prize (other than a symbolic prize) or prize voucher of retail value in excess of $750 or the equivalent, or such a lesser figure as may be decided by the USGA. ...
At one time one standard for "amateur" pool was $300 from any single event. That's real hard to police. Lots of local tournaments pay out more than that for first.
 
This actually happened a few years back here in the U.K.

A man playing a corperate golf day scores a hole in one and received a brand new Land Rover Discovery for his troubles.

The Royal and Ancient in Scotland here about this and write him a letter advising him he now has give up his amateur status for a year.
 
The reasoning appears to be; If a player is good enough to win the cash then he must be a pro.
 
tigerseye said:
Does anyone know why the PGA rules of golf say, that anyone who accepts cash as a prize is no longer considered amatuer? They can return to an amatuer status after not playing in any professional tournaments for like 2 years and pay a fee to the PGA for the official paperwork stating they are now an amatuer.
This is a pool forum, where we discuss pool. Your question is about golf, and should go to a golf forum, where they discuss golf. Here are a couple of golf forums to help you out:
http://thesandtrap.com/forum/
http://shottalk.com/forum/
http://www.golfrewind.com/

There is also a NPR forum (Non Pool Related) here on AzBilliards where your question would be appropriate. You can find it here:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13
 
tigerseye said:
Does anyone know why the PGA rules of golf say, that anyone who accepts cash as a prize is no longer considered amatuer? They can return to an amatuer status after not playing in any professional tournaments for like 2 years and pay a fee to the PGA for the official paperwork stating they are now an amatuer.

Since this thread has at least 13 responses you are now considered a professional NPR thread-starter. There is a 2-year moriatorium on you starting any more threads in this forum.
 
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I imagine, this IS pool-related - that the OP simply didn't follow through on that thought.

I'm guessing this is related to the recent two or three threads regarding pool pro/amateur status, what defines when someone is no longer an amateur. In at least one of those threads, golf pro/amateur status has been brought up as a comparison.
 
Quick little snippet: About 20 years ago, the APA wrote a letter to one of it's members informing him that because he had recently traveled over 250 miles to a professional pool tournament, paid a $150 or more entry fee and cashed more than his money back, he was now considered a professional by them. This is just an example for discussion of what one amateur organization may use as a guide. Just some thoughts.
 
JasonDevanney said:
This actually happened a few years back here in the U.K.

A man playing a corperate golf day scores a hole in one and received a brand new Land Rover Discovery for his troubles.

The Royal and Ancient in Scotland here about this and write him a letter advising him he now has give up his amateur status for a year.


Something very similar happened to a guy here in Orlando as well.
Do you remember the Tiger Woods / Buick commercials where he came back to the tee claiming that the wedge the group had just found on the tee was his and if you can hit it closer to the pin than he can then you will win this brand new Buick? This guy did and was not allowed to play in the amateur because he had a prize worth more than 20K. All on one shot he lost his status.


I am more familiar with how this rule effects you in golf than in pool. Sometime ago you could claim your staus at the end of an event based on how you placed. If I Monday qualified as an amateur and placed in the cash then I could give up my amateur status and cash out. Now you have to claim your status at the registration for an event. If an amateur places in the money at a pro event then they gets bupkis, nada.
If you win a USGA amateur event and earn the right to play in the Masters and for some idiot reason you go pro before that event comes around, then you forfeit your spot.
As far as I know in pool you dont have to claim either and until you rack up the $$ in multiple events then they classify you. Until then you can go into amateur events.
 
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