Draw by bending your shaft

zpele

zpele

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So just recently I started bending my shaft against the table when applying force english. I have found that it helps add more spin to the cueball and can help to break apart clusters while still spinning straight through them without changing the original course of the cueball that much.


Is this type of technique generally well accepted or well used? I find it harder to control the speed of the draw using this technique and I wanted to know how badly this will damage my shaft over time.
 
I dont know about other folks but I would need more detail (I aint so bright) are you talking about before, during or after CB contact?
 
I am with you

randyg said:
I'm a little confused?
How can bending your shaft on the pool table, after contact, have any effect on the cue ball?

Thanks,
randyg
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I am in agreement with you Randy, The cueball has already left the tip. So how can this affect the motion, direction, spin, or anything on the cueball? I guess if he thinks it works for him, that is awesome.
 
The only thing I can possibly see why this would help is you are paying more attention to the delivery and follow through without realizing it. You can snap your shaft in half on the table and it won't have any effect on the cue ball after contact.
 
I have seen this on breaks, but I suppose its the follow through that does the trick.
 
Bending the cue on the table has nothing to with the amount of draw imparted on the cue ball.

All your doing is forcing the shaft to stay bridged after impact and the tip has grounded.

It does look cool and it is likely simply creating a picture in your mind that allows you to deliver the cue on a straighter line thru the CB.
 
RRfireblade said:
Bending the cue on the table has nothing to with the amount of draw imparted on the cue ball.

All your doing is forcing the shaft to stay bridged after impact and the tip has grounded.

It does look cool and it is likely simply creating a picture in your mind that allows you to deliver the cue on a straighter line thru the CB.
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That's prolly what is going on. Instead of worrying about picking up the tip I am able to deliver a better stroke especially on rails.
 
zpele said:
That's prolly what is going on. Instead of worrying about picking up the tip I am able to deliver a better stroke especially on rails.
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You never want to raise the tip on a shot unless you need to to avoid a double hit. If you were worrying about damaging the cloth on a draw shot, don't, it won't happen unless you hit the shot really bad and the cloth was worn or a hole was already there.

Follow through straight on every shot, as much as you can. So on a draw shot, you will more or less be heading towards the table and not away from it, let the stroke finish naturally.

You may want to take a few lessons from a good player, it sounds a bit like you were reading the 8-ball "guide" some yokel posted on here and need to clear up a few misconceptions about technique.

Don't take the above in a bad way, some people just happen to learn on their own or from others that don't have quite enough knowledge to teach properly, a few hours spent with a good player (I mean a real good player, not just the best of the bad players you know hehe) will probably improve your game a lot in a short time.
 
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Follow through and your stroke are the keys to a good draw shot. I've never really noticed if my cue bends on a hard draw shot, I'm usually still look at the contact point on the OB at that time.
 
I think, in essence, what he is trying to say is that he is pushing through the cue ball for an exaggerated follow through. The cue ends up laying on the table with force being applied in a downward fashion from the draw stroke.


Josh
 
What randyg said! If it's on the break it's not so bad but if you do it on draw shots you are standing up and not staying down on the shot. Either way it doesn't help your stroke or shaft.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I think he's saying he's hitting down on the CB.

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Lol at all the responses. I know how to draw correctly and the mechanics of a good stroke. I can draw two table lengths without using this technique using a proper stroke and 'correct' technique but I wanted to play around with it mostly because it 'looks cool.'

I do however see it as an application for applying force draw on the cueball when it is near the rail and you have to hit down into the ball.

Looks like I've stirred up the crowd with this one lol.
 
the tip contact is what makes the differance. it cuold be just a mental thing! but the whole game is mental and so am I
 
All I gotta say is if I tried this technique, the QB has zero chance of staying on the table.
 
robsnotes4u said:
I am in agreement with you Randy, The cueball has already left the tip. So how can this affect the motion, direction, spin, or anything on the cueball? I guess if he thinks it works for him, that is awesome.
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I think he is applying this (bending the shaft) after contact as a way to help his fallow threw.

Many people have a hard time trying to draw the cue ball after contact because they end up poking at the cue ball instead of stroking threw it. By bending his shaft after cue ball contact it simply gives him something to do after IMO, instead of yanking his shaft back after contact, this would result in less draw.

Although his way of doing things may be considered wrong by many, to each is there own right? Im just worried bout his shaft...
 
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