Dumping - caught
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The professor would indeed be extremely disappointed... RH is probably rolling in his grave over this one. He was all about integrity. Sad day.
I seem to recall a televised tournament way back out west that many thot would be the 'big break' our sport needed to become mainstream with sponsorship dollars, TV time, etc... all went down the shoot when dumping was discovered.
The game hasn't recovered yet. Still carries the stigma from that one.
so if a kid gets a new 100 dollar cue for christmas from his parents so he can start playing pool and his grandmother gives him 100 dollars cash, it's not a moral issue for a me as 700 fargo to convince him how well he plays and that he and I play about the same speed and take his cue and his 100?
Crasher
Member
That would be the cheapest lesson on when not to put money in with the wrong crowd. How many young men in college bars are having this exact same scenario play out every weekend?
ok, but all these examples are behavior in the middle of a game so I'm having trouble making the connection. It's early, I'm old, it's probably me.
Ok, so I guess this thing is a good lesson too, don't bet on someone elses action.
you expect in poker that people are trying to trick you into what hand they have. Same with a baseball pitcher. In this you’re not expecting two players to collude together so that the winner is predetermined. They aren’t even remotely the same.
Badpenguin
Well-known member
This is the American Way now, these kids are just trying to cash in along with the rest of them. Maybe they should put in a request for some of that $1.7B.
I always wondered how these 2 were traveling the country playing for extremely high amounts night after night. Well apparently they weren't. Or by chopping up people's money, it allowed him to play the easier opponents. Either way, super shitty thing to do.
As deplorable and 100% unforgiveable as this is, the perpetrator(s) can make a positive of this.
Double crosses, whether they be at the pool table, in business, or in other areas of life can have dire consequences. One of the problems is that one never knows exactly who the person(s) swindled really are. Perhaps some of them are the type that can forgive and turn the other cheek, but perhaps some of them are relatives of a mobster. Perhaps they are carrying a gun. Who knows?
While I do not have first-hand knowledge of a dumper at the pool table being killed in retribution, I was present when a) a presumed dumper was stabbed but only wounded, and b) a presumed dumper returned to his car only to find all four of his tires slashed and his windshield smashed (perhaps with a baseball bat or something similar).
Anyone in on a dump is taking a chance, and the day might possibly come when something tragic comes of it. Obviously, one hopes not.
If the perpetrator(s) learn a lesson here, and discontinue this practice, they can make a positive of this. Anyone who takes the view that "dumping has always been around in pool so this is no big deal" needs to reconsider.
In the end, getting caught might prove a positive here for the participants in this swindle. We can only hope that remedial behavior is coming.
Double crosses, whether they be at the pool table, in business, or in other areas of life can have dire consequences. One of the problems is that one never knows exactly who the person(s) swindled really are. Perhaps some of them are the type that can forgive and turn the other cheek, but perhaps some of them are relatives of a mobster. Perhaps they are carrying a gun. Who knows?
While I do not have first-hand knowledge of a dumper at the pool table being killed in retribution, I was present when a) a presumed dumper was stabbed but only wounded, and b) a presumed dumper returned to his car only to find all four of his tires slashed and his windshield smashed (perhaps with a baseball bat or something similar).
Anyone in on a dump is taking a chance, and the day might possibly come when something tragic comes of it. Obviously, one hopes not.
If the perpetrator(s) learn a lesson here, and discontinue this practice, they can make a positive of this. Anyone who takes the view that "dumping has always been around in pool so this is no big deal" needs to reconsider.
In the end, getting caught might prove a positive here for the participants in this swindle. We can only hope that remedial behavior is coming.
wacokid9ball
Member
They reimbursed only because they got caught. No mercy, or forgiveness for what they did unless they do prison time.
I know guys that if they got cheated by this, someone would be dead or hospitalized.
I used to be very naive back in the day. Now I don't trust anyone but myself. As far as I'm concerned all matchups of this sort are rigged, until proven otherwise. It's still despicable and deserving of contempt, though.
I know, but I noted that it has never happened when I was present.
I know I'm going to sound ignorant here, but while there is clearly foul play here, there does not appear to be a crime in play.
My understanding is that debts that arise from gambling matches are not legally enforceable in the first place.
DieselPete
Active member
You can't legislate behavior and punitive measures do not provide societal inspiration!
Shitty actors a gonna act a shitty.