Earl Strickland's antics at the Mosconi Cup...

Earl Strickland's antics at this year's Mosconi Cup prove that:

  • He's a paragon of sensibility, courtesy, and a perfect advocate for our sport

    Votes: 47 24.0%
  • He's a hillbilly asshole

    Votes: 133 67.9%
  • I like to watch 'American Idol'

    Votes: 16 8.2%

  • Total voters
    196
av84fun said:
How can you say "spot on" when you are one of the main whiners about the booing and name calling etc. that is what he said would motivate him to travel to Eurpope to SEE MORE of it??

LOL

And re: your "natural ability" how many national/world championships have you won with it??

Just curious about how far natural ability can take someone who (allegedly) has it.
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That's not even the real question, It's more like, of all these people who people claim have such a natural talent, how many of them were raised in pool halls or taught by former or at the time world class players.

Who has TRULY just walked into a pool hall and been able to beat a world class player= NO ONE!!!!!!!
 
No I didn't inherit some....

Boro Nut said:
So there's no such thing as natural ability, but you were lucky enough to inherit some. Good point.

Nobody needed to tell me how to make a ball go in a pocket. I could do it from day one. I was in a youth club. I was about 9. It was a 6 foot snooker table with balls like peas. I probably potted the first ball I ever shot at. It was obvious. So was holding the cue correctly to make the cue ball go where you wanted. Maybe I'd just played more marbles than you. I couldn't see what all the fuss was about.

Of course I refined it and changed it to make it more reliable and repeatable, but there was something there from the very start. Stephen Lee had a 38 break on a full size table the very first time he ever picked up a snooker cue. Many people are born with all sorts of natural abilities, even obscure ones like poking a stick about to make round things drop down holes.

Boro Nut


My dad was an excellent poool player in the 70's and he started teaching me when I was about 10. I didn't really listen to a lot he said and I had to figure out a lot later on, but when I was sixteen after seeing TCOM, I started playing all of the time in my dad's game room and I started to get good. Then when a friend opened up a pool hall when I was 19, I started wirking there in the day and played between 12-15 hours a day six or seven days a week for about two years. I was going to try and go pro and then my mental game got trashed by a bad relationship I had. I have good visual spatial acuity which I inherited from my dad, but I also had a good instructor in my dad and buttloads and buttloads of practice time.

I've since learned more about the game and figured out a lot of details and my game has started to come back, my confidence and ability to play under pressure are just now starting to come back, but I wouldn't say that it was natural ability other than the good visual spatial acuity that I was born with. That alone doesn't make a world class player, I don't care what anybody claims.
 
I tend to think of natural talent as what is indicated by one's potential. No one is born being a great player, but some people are born with the potential to become great players. Great talent is the natural potential to become a great player.

Others could practice from now until doomsday and never be anything close to pro level. It takes both talent and hard work and dedication to realize one's potential to be a great player.
 
exactly, that was the point I was trying to make.

PoolBum said:
I tend to think of natural talent as what is indicated by one's potential. No one is born being a great player, but some people are born with the potential to become great players. Great talent is the natural potential to become a great player.

Others could practice from now until doomsday and never be anything close to pro level. It takes both talent and hard work and dedication to realize one's potential to be a great player.

That is what I was trying to say. There is no point in arguing who has more natural ability, because that alone won't get you anywhere. World class play has little to do with natural ability, and one shouldn't equate the ability to play quickly without apparent thought with natural ability. Those were the points I was trying to make.
 
Fleece3 said:
Didn't Corey say basically THE SAME THING!!! In a race to 50, and not those STUPID break rules, I will take Earl over any of the Euro team!

I only WISH I could line up Ralf Souquet to play him for any amount of money. ANY!!!
 
jay helfert said:
I only WISH I could line up Ralf Souquet to play him for any amount of money. ANY!!!

If you want to incorporate backing RALF against EARL I'm in.

No disrespect to EARL but RALFS precise, methodical play would break him down.

At this time I don't think EARL would be favored against NEILS, THORSTEN or MIKA.

However, EARL would get healthy playing the top 5 from the ISLES.
 
After reading most of this thread I don't even know who to yell at first... I guess I'll just say one thing. Shut up and watch Earl run out. After everything he has won those people should be respectful of his records alone.

Someone mentioned Snookeer and how many times you have seen someone act like Earl. I know your not serious? I won't spill the beans, not my place. I wouldn't hold your snooker players in that high of esteem. Let's just say there is some things people won't even discuss in public.

If you are looking for a role model for your kids. I wouldn't look in cue sports at all. Not any cue sport, not one at all. Even our pool playing preachers are crooked. Get over it.

Jamison
 
How did this thread change from discussing Earl's behavior to doubting his talent or comparing his talent to someone else's :rolleyes:

As always this just changes the subject of why he has to act like this when we all know he can play with his eyes shut.

Think the comments direct to Daryl Peach by certain individuals here because of his public statement of Earl (which i agree using the word "scum" is inappropriate) However calling Daryl names and degrading opinions directed to him by petty posts here isn't exactly the mature response i expected from people here. Grow up for heaven's sake as we all know the problems wasn't ALL caused by Daryl in the first place.
 
Kyo said:
How did this thread change from discussing Earl's behavior to doubting his talent or comparing his talent to someone else's :rolleyes:

As always this just changes the subject of why he has to act like this when we all know he can play with his eyes shut.

Think the comments direct to Daryl Peach by certain individuals here because of his public statement of Earl (which i agree using the word "scum" is inappropriate) However calling Daryl names and degrading opinions directed to him by petty posts here isn't exactly the mature response i expected from people here. Grow up for heaven's sake as we all know the problems wasn't ALL caused by Daryl in the first place.

It stinks, doesn't it? I saw Daryl Peach 4 or 5 years ago in NYC at the Big Apple tournament, and he seems like a very nice gentleman, but he is not without human emotion. There was an incident there when he expressed himself in an unusual manner. I think what he did at the Mosconi Cup was express himself by throwing that pacifier, getting caught up in the heat of the moment, but he did it, and unfortunately, it maybe wasn't the best thing for him to do, representing Team Europe. He is not without fault because he is human. It must have hurt, as the current WPC champion, to get spanked by Earl Strickland.

Put the name "Earl" in a thread, and you can be sure for 1,000-plus hits in less than 24-hour period on this forum. Is it no wonder why he is invited to the Mosconi Cup, The Action Report Challenge, the WPC, and the IPT challenge match tomorrow? His very name alone assures all promoters for a good turnout of spectators, whether in person or on the Internet.

Recently on this forum, some unpleasant comments were made about Canadian Jim Wych commentating, but a few posters took it a little too far by labeling him derogatory names which is unfair. There was immediately an interview on AZBTV with Jim Wych expressing his thoughts and responding to the unkind words written on this forum.

When you are out there in the public's eye, I guess this is what happens. Everybody has a blessed opinion and expresses themselves in a variety of ways. Jim Wych takes a blow on this forum, and the media did not let this go by without responding.

Earl Strickland takes a blow just about on a daily basis here on the forum, but it is considered the norm to bash this American champion player. The media, though most times is neutral when it comes to pool players, is sometimes NOT.

I kind of got a kick out of this year's Mosconi Cup. As far as I'm concerned, seeing Earl beat the Peach man was the highlight for me. I knew Team USA had a slim chance to win, even though they started out with a great lead the first day.

There was no unity in Team USA. It was every man for himself in Vegas, unlike Team Europe who were united each and every day, practicing together, giving each other encouragement. Team USA was disjointed.

Knowing a little bit about American Champion Shane Van Boening, I am sure this was quite a unique experience for him at the Mosconi Cup. Between the infights at the event between players, the media mishaps against Earl Strickland, whether intentional or not intentional, and other happenings which I will not relay on this public forum, it is a shame that Van Boening didn't experience a united team on his first appearance at this high-profile event.

You can continue to bash Earl Strickland, but nothing is going to change. He is still a champion, one of America's best, and nobody can take it away from him. I thought this year's Team USA was very reflective of the current state of pool in the United States. It really is every man for himself, and there is no unity. Champion-caliber players will continue to struggle to make ends meet. The existing lot of professional players in the States is dwindling. Soon there will be no professional pool on American soil, and who can you blame for this then? Certainly, not Earl Strickland.

JAM
 
Admittedly it was kind of entertaining to see Tony Drago (after Europe finally won) went about and hugged the entire US team, including Strickland -- I was in tears laughing seeing Earl trying to fight off this Malta teddybear... even Corey couldn't take it. Oh man, again I was reminded of the insecurities among the Americans.

-- peer
 
av84fun said:
How can you say "spot on" when you are one of the main whiners about the booing and name calling etc. that is what he said would motivate him to travel to Eurpope to SEE MORE of it??

LOL
Earl Strickland is a clown. I have never at any stage implied that clowns weren't entertaining.

If you want pool to be a serious sport then there is no place for the antics of Earl Strickland. If you want to generate interest (how may times do I have to say this is the Barry Hearn show) then Strickland is a shoe-in. QED - Strickland is a shoe in. The Mosconi cup has nothing to do with the best players in the US playing the best players in Europe. Surely you'd worked that one out.

Boro Nut
 
Boro Nut said:
Earl Strickland is a clown. I have never at any stage implied that clowns weren't entertaining.

Man, then you're a clown. We are all clowns. Earl Strickland is a pool player who has more heart than a lot of of people writing on this forum. If he's a clown, there are a lot of clowns on this forum who'd give their eye teeth to play pool like him. If he gets treated like a clown by the clowns in the audience, then it's like in Rome, do as the Romans do. They're all clowns, the Europeans some of the most vocal ones.

Boro Nut said:
...The Mosconi cup has nothing to do with the best players in the US playing the best players in Europe. Surely you'd worked that one out.

Explain the process. I am interesting to learn more about the Mosconi Cup selection process. :)

Do they just draw names out of a hat?

JAM
 
The Mosconi cup has nothing to do with the best players in the US playing the best players in Europe. Surely you'd worked that one out.

whilst i see your point and agree to a certain extent about the selection process, the competition still puts out the team based mostly on form and tournament winnings. you can't really argue with any of the european selections. even drago whilst he is a draw for the uk audience, he's still been in good form of late.

archer is in good form and has several good finishes behind him recently, shizzle van bizzle is the best player in the world right now. morris had an exceptional record in the mosconi cup in both singles and doubles and always cuts it. corey isn't in the best form of late but he is one of the most talented players in the world. and i agree barry hearn wants earl in there for the ratings but regardless he's still arguably the most talented player there has ever been and he has a very good mosconi cup record.

so i see your point but at the same time you can justify every member of both teams strongly.

i would like to have seen john schmidt in the team though.
 
Danny Harriman bested him in an all around. How could you still pick him over Danny?

Jamison

key words 'i would like' :)

i prefer watching john but i agree with you danny would have deserved it more. i've mentioned danny's name quite a lot in my recent posts saying he's one of the very top players in the world right now.
 
What has he done for us lately ...Earl I mean.

It's time to stop apologizing FOR Earl.
 
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ribdoner said:
If you want to incorporate backing RALF against EARL I'm in.

No disrespect to EARL but RALFS precise, methodical play would break him down.

At this time I don't think EARL would be favored against NEILS, THORSTEN or MIKA.

However, EARL would get healthy playing the top 5 from the ISLES.


Ralf is definately the favorite over Earl in a long race, if it happened today and not 15 years ago
 
shinyballs said:
What has he done for us lately ...Earl I mean.

It's time to stop apologizing FOR Earl.

Well, now about a tie with SVB for the highest win percentage in the 2007 Mosconi Cup. Does that work for ya??
 
av84fun said:
Well, now about a tie with SVB for the highest win percentage in the 2007 Mosconi Cup. Does that work for ya??
No not very well, seeing as neither of them were.

Boro Nut
 
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