Not talking anything away from Shane, but can he do it with a standard shaft ?
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Ya and Chang lost because the wait clearly affected him not making excuses just calling it what it is
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Earl is the only player I remember being as dominant as Shane is today. I would make them equal in that respect. Earl had to win his Opens with Buddy, Sigel, Efren, Varner, Parica, Davenport, Rempe and a few more killers in the field. No easy task for either man.
Earl could string more racks even than Shane! Sixes and sevens were not unusual for him. Just like Shane he would practice his break before each match. The Earl you see today is a shadow of the old Earl from the 80's and 90's. That guy is long gone.
When taking into account the difficulty of the field/competition....quality of equipment....age....New age 9-ball rules/rack....
Was Earl's 5 US Open titles ('84, '87, '93, '97, '00) more difficult to achieve than Shane's now 5 US Open titles ('07, '12, '13, '14, '16)?
Comparisons and analytics are all we have in pool to keep the fire burning, a good discussion on these is always interesting to me.
Thanks in advance for any responses.
Tough call. Earl's run was over a 16 year period which is pretty impressive. Shane's run includes a threepeat which is amazing. Both are impressive in their own ways. I'll be honest, I just can't pick
Not the correct way to judge Earl's wins. Seeing how Earl is still playing at a high level of competition....having just took second place in the world 14.1 championships....going back to 1984 to the present day, Earl has won the US Open 5 times in the span of 32 years....32 YEARS!!!!....Shane has won it 5 times......in 10 YEARS!!!......think about it.....wasn't Earl just playing in the same US Open Shane just won? Don't you think Earl ENTERED the US Open hoping he'd be adding ANOTHER win to his already....5 wins!....Earl's STILL playing today.....so how can you make the comparison you just did.....in 16 years.....if he was to win NEXT year....wouldn't that be 6 times.....in 33 years?
Not the correct way to judge Earl's wins. Seeing how Earl is still playing at a high level of competition....having just took second place in the world 14.1 championships....going back to 1984 to the present day, Earl has won the US Open 5 times in the span of 32 years....32 YEARS!!!!....Shane has won it 5 times......in 10 YEARS!!!......think about it.....wasn't Earl just playing in the same US Open Shane just won? Don't you think Earl ENTERED the US Open hoping he'd be adding ANOTHER win to his already....5 wins!....Earl's STILL playing today.....so how can you make the comparison you just did.....in 16 years.....if he was to win NEXT year....wouldn't that be 6 times.....in 33 years?
I believe that Shane has played in 12 US Opens.
If he wins next year it would be six in a span of 33 years. Right now it's five over a 16 year span. Any time you talk about championships you go from the first to the last over a span of time. When ppl talk about Willie Mosconi they say he won fifteen World Championships between 41 and 57 (16 years) and not that he won fifteen Worlds in 25 years (he is listed as retired in 66)
If he wins next year it would be six in a span of 33 years. Right now it's five over a 16 year span. Any time you talk about championships you go from the first to the last over a span of time. When ppl talk about Willie Mosconi they say he won fifteen World Championships between 41 and 57 (16 years) and not that he won fifteen Worlds in 25 years (he is listed as retired in 66)
Shane has a tougher field but plays on/with better equipment..(tables balls sticks.etc...)
Earl played a weaker field but played on/with worse equipment.....
The fact that Shane won 3 in a row is extremely impressive...
Guess the only way to know is for them to play race to 21 with the old equipment and then again with the new equipment..... and if they split......then FLIP A COIN!!! LOL
Both players are amazing and both deserve credit.
If they took the side pockets off the table and made it 16" long.......EARL ALL DAY!! LOL
Did Earl play in the US Open pryor to 1984?
We can check this. I looked at the Accu-Stats results from the last three U.S. Opens before this year (so, 2013-2015), where the TPA's for each match were recorded.
The player with the higher TPA in the match won 59 times and the player with the lower TPA won 6 times. That's almost 91% accuracy in predicting the outcome of the match.
If the player with the higher Fargo Rating won 59 out of those 65 matches I would accept that as pretty good evidence that a player's Fargo Rating is as good an indicator of their level of play as their TPA.