Earl's version of what happened at SBE.

When the TD said the player has 15 minutes to show up after he calls him . What he is saying is when he announces his name at the beginning of the match not actually calling him on the phone . I was there when Earl was playing Alex . Alex would ask Earl if the rack was ok everytime from the first rack . Earl failed to mention how he smacked the table atleast 8 time with his stick continiously until the TD told him to stop because he missed a shot , then turned and started yelling at Archer who was playing a match on the next table . The TD gave Earl plenty of chances but Earl just kept pushing his luck .
 
This is a good question.

Most professional tournaments I have attended have a big chart outside for all competitors to see. It lists the EXACT TIME of their match in the brackets. It is the responsibility of the competitor to show up on time. It is not the responsibility of the TD to give them a phone call to find out where they are and/or inform them that they're on deck.

I seem to recall Johnny Archer getting a pass on being late not too long ago... at DCC, if I'm correct.

Apparently "most" professional tourneys don't fly that way in 2011. Since it's only March and here we have two examples (that we know of)....

***EDIT *** Not taking sides on the Earl dismissal. I wasn't there, and have read both individuals accounts, and to me they were both wrong. But it's not for me to say. I'm merely commenting on the application of rules regarding "late" players in major tournaments.
 
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Is there no limit to which you "Earl fans" will defend this guy?! After you've heard both sides of this and you're still talking about the tournament director?! Every other player had to deal with the same td, the same fans , etc. etc. Let me ask you this. You're the td and some player with history like his is calling you a clown and a fool and making a complete scene. How much patience are you going to have for this guy. Then, after all that Earls yelling at a kid out in the hallway because he wants his autograph or picture and still the Td shows enough patience not to toss him. How much longer do you think this should have gone on!!! If that were my kid asking Earl for an autograph and he talked to my son that way I would've knocked him out. I've said it before in another thread and I'll say it again. He is a complete waste of flesh!
 
The T.D. IS a joke....

If Earl called called him a clown he hit the nail on the head.

Last year Hennessee, this year Earl.

Who's it going to be next year?
 
Does anyone know if they were using that rack they did last year? the one that comes down to the rail so the rack is at the right height? What is it called?
 
The T.D. IS a joke....

If Earl called called him a clown he hit the nail on the head.

Last year Hennessee, this year Earl.

Who's it going to be next year?

I'd bet on Earl in a repeat performance. He's a big favorite in this category. :thumbup:
 
Does anyone know if they were using that rack they did last year? the one that comes down to the rail so the rack is at the right height? What is it called?


No, thank God. That rack was terrible. It looked like the rack for this year was a "Diamond" rack. And believe me the one at Earl's table gave him and Stevie Moore and his opponent trouble.
 
No, thank God. That rack was terrible. It looked like the rack for this year was a "Diamond" rack. And believe me the one at Earl's table gave him and Stevie Moore and his opponent trouble.
Ok, thanks. i was wondering because the TD seemed to be a little protective of the rack looking bad last year and now this year. I guess I was letting my mine run away with me.
 
The T.D. IS a joke....

If Earl called called him a clown he hit the nail on the head.

Last year Hennessee, this year Earl.

Who's it going to be next year?

How many warns should Earl get ? He was told not to yell at his opponent . He was told not to hit the table( atleast 8 times ) with his stick after a miss . He was told to show respect for the other players playing at the same time on other tables . He was told to stop yelling at another player on the next table ( archer) . Then he comes back for his next match with a attitude . It looked to me like he waanted to get kicked out . Is this guy bi-polar or what ?
 
Is there no limit to which you "Earl fans" will defend this guy?! After you've heard both sides of this and you're still talking about the tournament director?! Every other player had to deal with the same td, the same fans , etc. etc. Let me ask you this. You're the td and some player with history like his is calling you a clown and a fool and making a complete scene. How much patience are you going to have for this guy. Then, after all that Earls yelling at a kid out in the hallway because he wants his autograph or picture and still the Td shows enough patience not to toss him. How much longer do you think this should have gone on!!! If that were my kid asking Earl for an autograph and he talked to my son that way I would've knocked him out. I've said it before in another thread and I'll say it again. He is a complete waste of flesh!

So you are gona teach your kid that hitting someone is the right thing to do . I hope you don't have kids.
 
Well, this thread puts a new light on what occurred.

First off, Earl is right when he says the pros cheat at racking. It's one of pool's dirty little secrets..........



End of story.


many,many years ago keith played against my friend,well known pro in a AAA tournament and it was not a pro tour event.Keith was unhappy with the way my friend racked.Keith made him rerack.Keith still did not like it and asked him to rerack again.my friend reracked and did his usual trick.keith caught that and got angry and slapped the rack with his hand like a teachecr spanks a kindergarten child and shouted " rack it again".At that time I wanted to jump into the arena to tackle keith but I controlled myself.Finally my friend racked to the satisfaction of keith.Yes, this is one of the dirty secrets among pros.
Earl never liked the racks by the players from Philippines.:cool:
 
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What does Earl mean by "tilting" the rack? I'm not familiar with that term.


Tilt is synonymous with the word ' Torque '.even 1/8 of a degree of torque to the rack can give bad breaks even to a player who breaks good. sometimes 'torque' is also referred to as a crooked rack.:cool:
 
When Earl played Alex they were racking for themselves. Earl was not complaining that Alex was giving him a bad rack. Earl was saying that Alex was racking so that the rack was not straight. This can give the breaker an advantage.
When Frank came over during the second game of the match, he spent a lot of time looking at the rack. It was not quite so obvious that the rack was not straight. He finally agreed with Earl. Frank asked Alex to rerack. Alex agreed, but he had a tough time getting the balls to stay in place.
Earl checked Alex's racks. Alex kept asking to check everytime he racked. Sometimes Earl came over and sometimes he did not.
Earl would talk to anyone who would listen. Earl kept turning around in his seat and talking to the man sitting behind him. When the man responded to Earl Frank asked the man to not talk to Earl. What did Frank expect this man to do? If Earl talked to him was he supposed to tell Earl to shut up? I think Frank should have insisted that Earl not talk to the fans directly.
Also, Johnny Archer was sharking Earl. He was practicing for his match on the next table. I did not see Johnny do anything.
On one shot Earl missed he insisted that Alex moved in his seat. Earl said this made him miss.
I believe Earl was rude to everyone, Alex, the fans, Frank, Johnny, anyone Earl could see he blamed. Everyone except himself for missing shots.
 
Tiling?

Tiling the rack.What in the world is that,I do not understand what that is.I do not blame Earl fore complaining to the td about what the aponent is doin to the rack.
 
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Tilt is synonymous with the word ' Torque '.even 1/8 of a degree of torque to the rack can give bad breaks even to a player who breaks good. sometimes 'torque' is also referred to as a crooked rack.:cool:

There is no way that anyone can see a rack turned 1/8th of a degree and certainly no way any human could consistently rack with that level of precision.
 
many,many years ago keith played against my friend,well known pro in a AAA tournament and it was not a pro tour event.Keith was unhappy with the way my friend racked.Keith made him rerack.Keith still did not like it and asked him to rerack again.my friend reracked and did his usual trick.keith caught that and got angry and slapped the rack with his hand like a teachecr spanks a kindergarten child and shouted " rack it again".At that time I wanted to jump into the arena to tackle keith but I controlled myself.Finally my friend racked to the satisfaction of keith.Yes, this is one of the dirty secrets among pros.
Earl never liked the racks by the players from Philippines.:cool:

I'm kind of coming late to the party, so to speak, about Keith's experience in professional tournaments.

But I will say this about my brief decade of experience when Keith as a tournament soldier. His break was never his greatest virtue. Where his strength is, and always has been, is his ability to execute shots that others wouldn't even attempt. Keith is a shot maker and has more in his arsenal of shots than most.

When we would attend professional tournaments, all the other players were all scrupulously examining the racks, making their opponents re-rack over and over again. Keith's normal tableside demeanor, however, which annoyed me to no end, was to just let his opponent rack while he sat by, never getting up out of his chair. Most of the regulars on the tournament trail were well aware of this about Keith. I even had a couple players come up to me and offer advice to Keith that he needed to be more cognizant of the racks he was receiving.

I insisted over and over, before, after, and during every single tournament that he check each rack, so much so that I had a signal that I would give him from the rail between games, when I would tap the top of my head, which meant: CHECK THE DAMN RACK, KEITH.

I knew who the rack riggers were, and these rack riggers were well aware that Keith very rarely checked the rack. When Keith racked balls for himself to break, he usually just threw them in there, moved the rack up and down once or twice, and then proceeded to break. When he'd rack for his opponents, he tried to give them as good as rack as he could, but sometimes they would insist that he do it over and over and over and over and over again, to which he complied. Sometimes the TD was called in to rack, since Keith's rack wasn't good enough.

I can vividly remember Johnny Archer objecting to Keith's rack at Turning Stone. Every time Keith would rack, Johnny was standing there, not accepting the rack. Keith finally asked the TD to rack for him. The TD racked, and Johnny didn't like the TD's rack. Finally, after 10 minutes -- yes, 10 frigging minutes -- Keith said to Johnny, "Well, then rack your own." Johnny proceeded to rack his own, and Keith never looked at Johnny's racking for himself.

Make not mistake about it, the players voicing their discontent for a rack is sometimes a sharking mechanism they use to get in the heads of their opponents. Even when they are given good racks, they will voice discontent hoping to give themselves an edge by making their opponent angry.

This pertains to a lot of professional players, not just Johnny, Keith, et al. I can tell you a nice rack-rigging story about Hillbilly and Jeremy Jones at an SBE, but Il'l save it for another time.
 
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I insisted over and over, before, after, and during every single tournament that he check each rack, so much so that I had a signal that I would give him from the rail between games, when I would tap the top of my head, which meant: CHECK THE DAMN RACK, KEITH.

So now it looks like everyone cheats at the game...just a little bit...in their own way. Earl likes to shark his opponents and overlook personal fouls, Alex likes to give himself tilted racks and play drunk and Keith likes to receive clandestine hand signals. :p

Once a match is in progress, outside interference by other players and spectators is not allowed.
 
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So now it looks like everyone cheats at the game...just a little bit...in their own way. Earl likes to shark his opponents, Alex likes to give himself tilted racks and Keith likes to receive clandestine hand signals. :p

Once a match is in progress, outside interference by other players and spectators is not allowed.

LOL! You know, somebody told me a pool tale, not sure if it's true, that back in the Johnston City days, some player(s) put razor blades in the rails, so that when their opponent would bank a shot, the object ball would not respond correctly after making contact with the rail. These players knew where the razor blades were, and so they avoided banking on those rails. Again, this could be an urban legend, but I do remember hearing about it.

Bottom line, neutral rackers would solve the rack-rigging problem that continues to plague tournaments. They can keep coming up with new technology for racking devices, but neutral rackers would be the remedy for those blatant rack-riggers.
 
Earl, Charlie Sheen, and Gary Busey walk into a bar...

Seriously, every sport and activity in the world seems to have their "Earls". There is a very fine line between genius and insanity. If we didn't experience a little insanity from the top people in their fields, we would never have true brilliance either.

I love Earl's shenanigans and Alex's nine foot standing broad jumps! I just wish professional pool players made the kind of money that football players make, so they could really have a good time. Trash some motel rooms, hire lots of hookers, and drive a few cars into the swimming pool...

Face it, even chess players had Bobby Fisher. Who remembers Spasky or Karpov? This is pool. While I certainly appreciate the mechanical skills and talent of the European players, I'd rather watch Earl, or Alex, or Keith play anytime.

I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but until a person has devoted their life to developing their skills to the point that Earl has, I have a hard time listening to them passing judgment. They might have every right in the world to judge him at a PTA meeting or in their own church group, but not when it comes to the pool arena.

I played in a band with the most talented keyboard player I've ever had the privilege of listening to. This guy was absolutely phenomenal. Problem was, he's struggled to make it for years, because he doesn't have ANY people or personal skills. He spent the time he should have been learning social skills studying his music and playing endless scales. He didn't go to the prom, He didn't have dates on Friday night. He played music. Right now, he is backing a singer that doesn't have a tenth the talent that his keyboard player has, but the singer's name is the one on the marquee. The guy doesn't dress right, and he acts like a teenager, because that's where he left off learning how to become a well rounded person and devoted his life to music.

A lot of people at the top of their trades can handle the burden of being well rounded and at least seeming "normal", but I think that if you really looked at them closely, you might be shocked at their little weirdnesses.

Just a couple of examples... Einstein would leave home and forget articles of clothing and got lost frequently. Patton thought he was Hannibal reincarnated. Wagner, the composer would wear gloves when he conducted music by Mendelssohn (because Mendelssohn was Jewish), Louisa May Alcott wrote "Little Women", but had an intense dislike for little girls. Cardinal Richlieu would jump over furniture every day. Hans Christian Anderson carried a note on him expressing his feelings about being buried alive. Thomas Edison had such strange traits that his teachers felt he was "addled".

The kids in my school that showed brilliance were usually picked on and those kids that became good at sports were sometimes very bizarre, which frequently culminated in bad behavior.

I have met and talked with Earl on a couple of occasions. One time at a pro match being held here, I talked to him while he was out smoking and he was in a great mood. His match was the next up and right before it started, he pointed out a woman sitting right next to me that was eating a sandwich and demanded that if she was "going to eat her potato chips that loud, she should do it outside on HER time"... Gotta love that!

God bless the "Earls" of this world! They give us a little something to smile about...

USA!
USA!
USA!

Steve
 
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