Energy transfer from cuetip to whiteball

[Black-Balled]

What’s the difference? Can you hit the CB fast but not hard? Hard but not fast?

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I think so?

Hard to tell in pool coz there are different circumstances, but ..

3c players blend hi impact force and slow speed. Gives a cb that rolls naturally and maintains spin.

Can also do opposite, low impact force with hi speed.

 

[Black-Balled]

The cueball is gone too fast for the grip on the cue to matter. It has been proven many times.

Sure it does p=mv. The problem is that as the weight increases your ability to move the cue fast decreases. So there is a weight beyond which it is not productive for a particular individual to increase the weight of the cue.

A firm grip does result in different ball action... back to 3c billiards basics.

The bigger balls and faster cloth and larger distances expose a lot of what is happening with balls on cloth that isn't easily noticed in pool.

 

[Bob Jewett]

A firm grip does result in different ball action... back to 3c billiards basics. ...

Well, no. A firm grip only changes the action to the extent that it changes the speed of the stick and where you hit on the ball.

The main use of those ideas is that they might prepare you for particular shots that you would otherwise hit wrong. But that's psychological, not physical.

 

[mr3cushion]

A firm grip does result in different ball action... back to 3c billiards basics.

The bigger balls and faster cloth and larger distances expose a lot of what is happening with balls on cloth that isn't easily noticed in pool.

Here's 3 examples of the cue/cue tip moving, 'Fast/Short/Quick' but not Hard'!

 

[Black-Balled]

Here's 3 examples of the cue/cue tip moving, 'Fast/Short/Quick' but not Hard'!

I'd suggest you all take a peek here.

This guy knows more about whacking a ball around a table than you do.

 

[Black-Balled]

Well, no. A firm grip only changes the action to the extent that it changes the speed of the stick and where you hit on the ball.

The main use of those ideas is that they might prepare you for particular shots that you would otherwise hit wrong. But that's psychological, not physical.

I don't think that's correct, bbob.

 

[GideonF]

Here's 3 examples of the cue/cue tip moving, 'Fast/Short/Quick' but not Hard'!

These are excellent shots, and appreciate the examples of short stroke excellent draw.

But help me understand how exactly one is hitting the ball “fast but not hard”. I mentioned earlier that I understand how thinking of it as fast stops a player from tensing and actually slowing the cue, but are you saying something else? If so, what do you say is happening?

 

[mr3cushion]

These are excellent shots, and appreciate the examples of short stroke excellent draw.

But help me understand how exactly one is hitting the ball “fast but not hard”. I mentioned earlier that I understand how thinking of it as fast stops a player from tensing and actually slowing the cue, but are you saying something else? If so, what do you say is happening?

By being able to execute a more perfect 'Timing/Tempo' to the stroke to accomplish the Most amount of effect with the least amount of effort/force!

This video is from 1983, the table is a Brunswick 10' a Centennial, 4-month-old cloth/non heated, No foreign substance applied to the CB!

Tell me, "Does it look like I'm hitting the CB hard/force for the effect I'm transferring to the CB"?