Famous 3-Cushion world record run.

For those who haven't seen this record run, have a look. There is something unusual I just noticed about the 8th point.

Here's a related post I stole from Facebook:

It's been 11 years since the world record high run of 28 was last equaled. Komori 1993, Ceulemans 1998, Forthomme 2012, Caudron 2013. There's extra incentive: the UMB offers a prize of 29.000 Euro for a run of 29 made in official UMB competition, such as a World Cup or a World Championship. What does your crystal ball tell you?
(Poll of possible years it will be broken)
Nothing 'Unusual' happened! He scored the point 'Exactly' the way He played it!

I've been playing that same position for over 50 years. The shot is called a 'Ball first ticky.'

 
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Nothing 'Unusual' happened! He scored the point 'Exactly' the way He played it!
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I think many players who are not familiar with the shot will find it pretty interesting. Caudron's shot (point 8) appears almost exactly on page 160 of Robert Byrne's Advanced Technique in Pool and Billiards (1990).
 
I think many players who are not familiar with the shot will find it pretty interesting. Caudron's shot (point 8) appears almost exactly on page 160 of Robert Byrne's Advanced Technique in Pool and Billiards (1990).
Then I guess there wasn't anything 'Unusual' about His choice of shots.

A diagram is one thing, "A video is worth a thousand words!"
 
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If you slow the vid to 50% speed, you can hear the CB kiss the OB after the 1st rail.

I don't think that kiss helped the shot. Just saying I hear a kiss.
 
If you slow the vid to 50% speed, you can hear the CB kiss the OB after the 1st rail.

I don't think that kiss helped the shot. Just saying I hear a kiss.
Obviously, it didn't hurt it.

You can hear the 'Kiss' because that is exactly what was supposed to happen.
 
Mr3Cushion,
Was the tournament at Chris’s in 98 the last time the top pros played in the Midwest?
 
I would say 16 out of 29 is not bad for a pool player. I don't play 3-cushion and I don't know the game that well, but trying to control the balls seems almost impossible. It's very difficult to even get one score. I've only played the game a few times in my life. I think my best package was six or something like that. A lot harder than you think. I will let the experts chime in
Yes, you absolutely strive to control all three balls.

Whenever possible, choose the best solution that allows you to:
1. Keep balls away from the middle of the short cushion.
2. Hit with just enough speed to keep the 1st ball and 3rd close.

Of course, making the point is the most important, so you might have a shot where you have no options other than to destroy your position to make the point.

If you play the game by thinking about where you want to bank the 2nd ball, then that gives you a good target on the 2nd ball to keep your eyes focused during your stroke. Then use feel (experience) to adjust your English and speed to solve the problem and avoid kisses. This is how you build runs with purpose.

I would advise against worrying about systems unless you are simply practicing your lines.

Nate
 
Many have run more than 28, but only in practice. For example, at Carom Cafe in Queens, NY, the room in which occasionally play billiards, Hugo Patino has run 31.

Unlike pool, three cushion takes itself seriously and players that run out a match in competition do not complete their runs.
 
Many have run more than 28, but only in practice. For example, at Carom Cafe in Queens, NY, the room in which occasionally play billiards, Hugo Patino has run 31.

Unlike pool, three cushion takes itself seriously and players that run out a match in competition do not complete their runs.
Sjm, you're semi-correct about the games end with No continuation of a run.

In some World sanctioned events the matches are played to 'equal innings.'

Meaning if one player wins the 'Lag' they shoot first at the 'Break shot.'

Let's say the match is to 50 points, the player who won the lag, gets to 50 first and the 2nd player has 34.

The player that didn't win the lag, now has an opportunity to tie the match to 50 by being allowed to play the break shot and try to run 6.

If that player runs the 6 points and ties at 50 points the 50-point match is over. Then each player has an opportunity to shoot the break shot again to score as many points as possible in that inning.

The player that finally has the 'High-Run' from the break shot wins the match.

I don't personally like it, but that's how some events are played.
 
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Bill, tell the story about the big 'demo run' you did for the college, Northwestern iirc, where you ran like twenty and the kids had no idea what they just witnessed. you told me that yrs ago when you stopped in Tulsa.
 
Bill, tell the story about the big 'demo run' you did for the college, Northwestern iirc, where you ran like twenty and the kids had no idea what they just witnessed. you told me that yrs ago when you stopped in Tulsa.
G, it was an 'Artistic 3Cushion (Trick Shots) exhibition I did for the college and the patrons of Chris's.

I demonstrated making a '30 cushion' billiard! That's what they got all excited about, because I had them participate by counting the rails by 3's.

Also showing a 9-cushion billiard on the 1st attempt.


Here's another little excerpt from the exhibition.

 
Sjm, you're semi-correct about the games end with No continuation of a run.

In some World sanctioned events the matches are played to 'equal innings.'

Meaning if one player wins the 'Lag' they shoot first at the 'Break shot.'

Let's say the match is to 50 points, the player who won the lag, gets to 50 first and the 2nd player has 34.

The player that didn't win the lag, now has an opportunity to tie the match to 50 by being allowed to play the break shot and try to run 6.

If that player runs the 6 points and ties at 50 points the 50-point match is over. Then each player has an opportunity to shoot the break shot again to score as many points as possible in that inning.

The player that finally has the 'High-Run' from the break shot wins the match.

I don't personally like it, but that's how some events are played.
Yes, I've seen equalization, which came up at the 2022 World Games. I am OK with it.
 
I think many players who are not familiar with the shot will find it pretty interesting. Caudron's shot (point 8) appears almost exactly on page 160 of Robert Byrne's Advanced Technique in Pool and Billiards (1990).
I looked for something since you mentioned it and saw the kiss on shot 8. I thought it was a mistake, until reading Bill's reply. I'm only a rare occasional 3C player.
 
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For those who haven't seen this record run, have a look. There is something unusual I just noticed about the 8th point.

Here's a related post I stole from Facebook:

It's been 11 years since the world record high run of 28 was last equaled. Komori 1993, Ceulemans 1998, Forthomme 2012, Caudron 2013. There's extra incentive: the UMB offers a prize of 29.000 Euro for a run of 29 made in official UMB competition, such as a World Cup or a World Championship. What does your crystal ball tell you?
(Poll of possible years it will be broken)
Was the equipment in '93 the same as today? Simonis 300, heated tables, European cushions?

What's the highest run on a Gold Crown carom table?
 
Was the equipment in '93 the same as today? Simonis 300, heated tables, European cushions?

What's the highest run on a Gold Crown carom table?
I can Only speak for myself.

In Lansing, MI. there was/is a pool room the Hall of Fame. They had/have many tables, off to the side of the main room was a smaller room that housed 3 GC 5'x10' Carom tables. In 1982 I was playing in an ABA sanctioned 3C tournament, I believe 18 players.

I'm in the Finals (6 players) 40 points on Sunday and playing very well. The game before my final game in the Finals I played a local player, Ray Alverado, the game was pretty fast, 40-18. No one kept innings that match. Even ray mentioned our game finished way before the rest.

I already had the tournament won before I played the final match of the event against another local player Gene Johnson, a very defensive player.
Since last game went so quickly with Ray, He decided to keep the innings for the last match.

I won the lag and ran 10 from the break. The rest of the game went like this for me, 10, 3, 0,12, 6, 0, 4, 1, 0, 1, 0, 3 and out. I made 40 points in 12 innings. My opponent didn't score a point until the 9th inning, 1. Then 0, another 0, in the 11th inning he made a lucky kissed in shot and ran a 6 from it. I finished the game with 3. Final score 40-7- 12 innings.

This is my Best game for 40 points in a sanctioned event.
 
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