Fedor over Bergman

[CaleAYS]

I think Fedor would be the favorite playing a long set of 10 ball against Filler right now. Fedor has a much better 10 ball break and I’d say Fedor has slightly better tactical play as well.

 

[Cuebuddy]

The match I want to see would be SVB vs Gorst. A race to 100 at Ten ball and a race to 50 at Ice fishing.

 

[CaleAYS]

Pretty much sums it up haha

 

[skogstokig]

I read this a lot, and it makes me wonder why many of the international players, minus some of the asian players, spend an awful lot of time here playing, and many end up relocating here. I get that they have the Euro tour, but I remember someone on here saying how nobody gets rich playing the Eurotour...certainly not making the money the snooker players are making.

Is it because they receive support from the government? Just seems like if pro pool is dead for American players, it would be just as dead for the international players who spend several months out of the year here, or even move here permanently.

there are probably more american pool tables in new york city than in the whole of russia. more money to win, too.

fedor's success is the result of extreme dedication and practice. i don't think there have been any three players as devoted to all thing pool than the billiard brothers (gorst, dudanets, sershtan). as becoming to their generation they have documented their progress on youtube and facebook. an old article about these moscovite youngsters:

The Dutch Voice, "The Billiard Brothers."

The Billiard Brothers A group of three Russian players go by the name The Billiard Brothers. They are young, fearless, dedicated, and addicted. That’s pretty close to the definition of ‘monsters’. There is one in particular who’s horrifying. He shows no emotion, plays like he’s twenty years...

freddythebeard.com

 

[JoeyInCali]

I think he broke and ran over 40 times...I don't think anybody is gonna smoke him playing 9 ball. Let's not forget he's a world champion too. Also let's be honest....he could have beat Justin worse....he didn't play the same speed on day 3

SVB and Filler do that in 10-ball.

 

[ghost ball]

Great interview on Fedor.

 

[mikeyfrost]

SVB and Filler do that in 10-ball.

Dennis and SVB played a great 9 ball match and finished 120-119....neither performance would have been good enough to beat what Fedor is doing right now. Someone go look for the match stats and prove me wrong please

 

[Cornerman]

Dennis and SVB played a great 9 ball match and finished 120-119....neither performance would have been good enough to beat what Fedor is doing right now. Someone go look for the match stats and prove me wrong please

Stats -- Orcollo vs. Van Boening 9-Ball Race to 120, October 2020

Here are some results from the Dennis Orcollo vs. Shane Van Boening 9-Ball match played at Bill's Bar & Billiards in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma on October 23-25, 2020. Pay-per-view streaming was provided by Rackemtv. The commentators included...

forums.azbilliards.com

 

[JoeyInCali]

Dennis and SVB played a great 9 ball match and finished 120-119....neither performance would have been good enough to beat what Fedor is doing right now. Someone go look for the match stats and prove me wrong please

Break-and-run games -- on all breaks:

Orcollo -- 55 of 119 (46%)
Van Boening -- 54 of 119 (45%)
Total -- 109 of 238 (46%)

Hmmmm......
Filler broke and ran some 40% on Aranas in their 10B match at Roy's.

 

[Tin Man]

Break-and-run games -- on all breaks:

Orcollo -- 55 of 119 (46%)
Van Boening -- 54 of 119 (45%)
Total -- 109 of 238 (46%)

Hmmmm......
Filler broke and ran some 40% on Aranas in their 10B match at Roy's.

Were they breaking from the box? I can't remember.

 

[mikeyfrost]

Break-and-run games -- on all breaks:

Orcollo -- 55 of 119 (46%)
Van Boening -- 54 of 119 (45%)
Total -- 109 of 238 (46%)

Hmmmm......
Filler broke and ran some 40% on Aranas in their 10B match at Roy's.

Fedor was somewhere around 49% after day 1. Anyone know where he finished up on break and run games?

 

[sjm]

Dennis and SVB played a great 9 ball match and finished 120-119....neither performance would have been good enough to beat what Fedor is doing right now. Someone go look for the match stats and prove me wrong please

Maybe so, but we all knew at the time that Shane was coming off a long layoff, which is why more than a few on the forum picked Dennis in that one, despite the fact that Shane has owned him over the years. Using that match to assess SVB's playing speed is really not fair to Shane.

 

[benny-the-blade]

Fedor was somewhere around 49% after day 1. Anyone know where he finished up on break and run games?

54% BnR for the kid (41 of 76 breaks).

 

[benny-the-blade]

Were they breaking from the box? I can't remember.

I’m pretty certain they did in that match.

 

[mikeyfrost]

54% BnR for the kid (41 of 76 breaks).

Thats my point...it felt like he broke and ran at that high a clip EASILY...there isn't too many people that can fade that. I think people still are under rating him...in this moment he's on another level.

 

[benny-the-blade]

Thats my point...it felt like he broke and ran at that high a clip EASILY...there isn't too many people that can fade that. I think people still are under rating him...in this moment he's on another level.

I’m with you. Right now the list of betting favorites against Gorst is extremely small. I‘m talking 2 or 3 cats.

 

[sjm]

I’m with you. Right now the list of betting favorites against Gorst is extremely small. I‘m talking 2 or 3 cats.

Yup, and the list is getting even smaller. Best of all, Fedor will be old enough to play in the next Derby City Classic, as he'll turn 21 this May.

 

[sjm]

The match I want to see would be SVB vs Gorst. A race to 100 at Ten ball and a race to 50 at Ice fishing.

I've never been ice fishing but a friend of mine who enjoys it has made the comment "ice fishing is all about the beer."

 

[AtLarge]

Were they breaking from the box? I can't remember.

Yes, break from a box in both matches. For Gorst/Bergman the box was 9" to either side of the long string; for Orcollo/Bergman it was a full diamond to either side.

 

[sjm]

54% BnR for the kid (41 of 76 breaks).

No question that if he can maintain that BnR%, he's the favorite at nine ball over every player alive.