Don't forget Shannon Daulton....
Fedor Vs Tony 1 pkt
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I personally liked him to beat any American in his day in one pocket. He’s a great example of a top cue striker competing regularly at one pocket.
8intheside
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I think Shane has to be in top 5. He’s more than capable of beating anyone in any game.
The only way Shane would not be in the top 5 is if all the Asian players played one pocket daily for 3 months straight.
I don't know that SVB has ever ducked anyone. For sure, he gets the matchup that he wants most, if not all, of the time or he won't play. Maybe that is a form of ducking? Rack rules, break rules, etc.
I have seen many posts from him over the years inviting anyone to come and he would" bet his own"
It used to seem that if SVB could hang around long enough in these long races, he would figure out the break and that break would eventually be too much for his opponent to overcome. While I would still take his 9 and 10 ball break over most anyone, I don't think it as big a factor as it used to be...especially not in MR events.
Father Time is undefeated. I am sure SVB knows it deep down, but most world class athletes have a certain amount of cockiness that keeps them hanging on.
Also, SVB has his world title, from what I've heard/read he is financially secure, so maybe the gambling isn't as big of a deal...as the great Marvin Haglar once said, “It’s tough to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5 am when you’ve been sleeping in silk pajamas.”
Well said. Nice post.
PS He ducked JL Chang at the 2019 Derby City Classic. Chang wanted to play a long race for 30,000.
I will also add: I think it is hilarious that after a year in the State, it seems young Fedor is turning into the traditional American pool shark/gambler
Gotta pay the bill$....
Really? Kaci has shown in tournament play he does not fear Filler. In fact, I believe Kaci has a winning record vs Filler. And that's just a guess because everytime I've seen them play at major events, Kaci is usually the one winning their matchups.
Kaci's injury will take time. And, the other players are steadily improving.
Gorst and Filler have barely begun to get their gamble on....
SVB is ready to play almost anywhere anytime...if he likes it.
I do appreciate Fedor's recognition that he needs to get into action....really to get his opponent's best game so he can accurately judge his game.
I agree with Fedor that his playing Alex 1P for money is a bad bet. In a year it can be just the opposite.
If they play 1P....Fedor isn't a favorite
9 ball he might be...in winner break, Shane can take over long raves.
10 ball might be closer.
Kills me when these guys don’t match up to determine where they stand. When they do, they both risk losing status....which is silly if they are only betting backer money.
I tried my best to get a few big matches at my room. Made it as easy as possible.....and I never hosted a long race.
We may never see a meaningful long race with
Fedor vs Shane or Fedor vs Filler or anyone else
....because when he wins it means he's the better player.
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If you want to put Shane there I won't argue with you, but he's definitely not #1.
I can't see SVB being beaten by anybody race to 100 ten ball. Throw in a Magic Rack and I put him as a big favorite over all comers. I've seen too many PACKAGES put together by him over the years. No matter how great you strike the ball, his ability to string racks together would be a huge advantage over anyone. About ten years ago I watched him put a 19 pack together against Alex. He coasted to a 100 to 83 win. He let up on the final day to keep the score closer than it should have been. There was never a rematch. If you listened to players breaking the balls with your eyes blindfolded you'd be able to distinguish his break over anyone else's. The perfect hit master.
Agreed.
Fedor doesn't believe anybody is ever supposed to beat him on a pool table at anything...I'm thinking.
Personally, I don't care if any of them they ever gamble. They all have ample opportunity to show their greatness on the tournament trail and every one of them is found in the field of every major. SVB's win at the 2022 World Championship was his only major in the last seven years. By comparison, Filler has won the China Open, the UK Open, the US Open, the World Championship and the gold medal at the World Games in that same period.
Shane, still one of the truly elite, is not the best anymore, and he knows it. In my opinion, Fedor would demolish him at one pocket in any long race. Two-time World 10-ball champ Kaci would easily beat him at 10-ball, and Filler would school him in a long 9ball race.
Luckily for Shane, he is smart enough to steer clear of today's best in action. Greatness is measured in titles, and the title count in recent years tells us what we already know about Shane. He's not prevailing over the toughest fields very often anymore.
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Well, then, Jack Cooney is our greatest ever pool player. Many have scored over and over in the action room, often exceeding the earnings of the best pros, but it is those that mix it up with all the great players at once and beat them over and over that are remembered.