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Trent

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ive made a few cues now mainly for local people and friends and last night was the first time i seen one of my cues in the hands of someone that didnt purchase it from me, my first thought was maybe this guy stole it lol then i remebered that i overreact easily :sorry: anyways i ask the guy about his cue where he got it, how it played and what not and he frigging loves the cue couldnt say ebough about it.
i ended the conversation with ya i built that cue for my buddy so and so how did you get ahold of it??

turns out my friend wound up on hard times and had to let it go at the pool room but he sold it for more than what i gave it to him for:grin:

but my main reason for the post was if you see another person sell one of your cues or trade one or something like that does it ever kinda sit wrong with you, almost make you feel bad (they didnt like my cue:frown:) lol

maybe im the only one
 
It doesn't bother me one iota. Once it is sold it no longer MY cue and I would care less what the purchaser does with HIS cue. If you grill someone a hamburger do you get up-set if he eats it?

Dick
 
Dude, people are fickle...... They always gotta have the next new thing. I can't even imagine the amount of cue whores that come on here and stroke one one minute and next minute, they're stroking a different one. It's the same with cell phones, cars, women etc...........

The first few cues I made were not all that great, so if they didn't want to keep it, I would understand, but now, that I am making perfect cues....... :D
 
Friend of mine had a cue stolen that I made for them. Sadly it kinda made me feel good. That a cue I made was nice enough to steal.

Larry
 
I'm with Dick on this... once it's theirs, they are free to do as they wish with it.
The only times I've been bothered, is when real good players have sold cues after they talked me into giving them a sweet deal with the understanding that they'd be using it.
I learned my lesson on that a long time ago, however. ;)
 
Sheldon said:
I'm with Dick on this... once it's theirs, they are free to do as they wish with it.
The only times I've been bothered, is when real good players have sold cues after they talked me into giving them a sweet deal with the understanding that they'd be using it.
I learned my lesson on that a long time ago, however. ;)
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At least, they weren't "stolen ".
I can't count how many times I've read and heard some pro's case and cues were stolen.
 
rhncue said:
It doesn't bother me one iota. Once it is sold it no longer MY cue and I would care less what the purchaser does with HIS cue. If you grill someone a hamburger do you get up-set if he eats it?

Dick
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I get upset if they don't eat it.

I don't get upset. I prefer building cues for people that keep them. People don't sell things they love so it make me wonder why.
 
To a cue maker a cue he made is like his baby.
He made it with his own hands and skills.
Part of him goes with every cue he sells.
For someone to want and desire something he made makes him feel good.
Of course when someone says bad things about his work he feels hurt.
Everyone cant possibly like every cue he makes.
The cue maker understands that.
That is just the way it is.
I can not understand any cue maker that does not feel that way about his work.
It is not easy work and the profits are small.

Then there are the online freaks that never made a cue but know everything there is to know about it.
And if you dont do it exactly how they think it should be done then you are not a cue maker but just an assembler of junk.
They will do there best to discredit you at every opportunity even to the point of outright lying.

There is a lot of self satisfaction from making something functional that someone else values.
If it was not that way I doubt a person would be a cue maker for long.
 
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WilleeCue said:
To a cue maker a cue he made is like his baby.
He made it with his own hands and skills.
Part of him goes with every cue he sells.
For someone to want and desire something he made makes him feel good.
Of course when someone says bad things about his work he feels hurt.
Everyone cant possibly like every cue he makes.
The cue maker understands that.
That is just the way it is.
I can not understand any cue maker that does not feel that way about his work.
It is not easy work and the profits are small.

Then there are the online freaks that never made a cue but know everything there is to know about it.
And if you dont do it exactly how they think it should be done then you are not a cue maker but just an assembler of junk.
They will do there best to discredit you at every opportunity even to the point of outright lying.

There is a lot of self satisfaction from making something functional that someone else values.
If it was not that way I doubt a person would be a cue maker for long.
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WilleeCue,
You could not have said it better my friend. That is exactly how I feel about every cue that comes out of my shop..
 
I had a guy call me a year after he bought his cue.
Just to tell me how much he loved the thing, and how impressed he was with the quality, compared to the cues he sees while out and about playing....
That kind of stuff is what makes it worthwhile.
I'm not going to lose any sleep over someone selling one of my cues.
I suppose if it happened regularly it could be cause for concern though.
 
resale

its a compliment to see your cues sold and resold. after 20 years it is the norm. be happy more than one person wants to play with your cues and are willing to buy them.
robert harris
 
rob@BPQ said:
its a compliment to see your cues sold and resold. after 20 years it is the norm. be happy more than one person wants to play with your cues and are willing to buy them.
robert harris
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this especially fits for this situation becasue the guy who bought it knew what he paid and offered him almost double to sell it because he liked it so much and didnt want the other cue he was trying to get rid of to make some money.

but.... at first i thought "oh no maybe he didnt like the cue?? did he like his joss better?? what could i have done to make it better for him??" lol
stuff like that and this was the first cue anyone has gotton from me and gotten rid of so i was worryied but it turned out to be just to good of a offer and my buddy came out tonight and picked out some more wood to make another for him.:thumbup:

so it all worked out along with my insecurities (i cant spell)
 
cues

We all feel these feelings and need to let it roll off our backs. There will always be flippers who buy low and sell high. Get on lists and sell their place. Hit on hard times and have to let a cue go to pay bills.

One of my statements to myself when I finish a cue is, well that one's worth stealing. My customers have had over fifteen of my cues stolen, or that is the story they tell. Maybe I'm not getting the complete story though. Still as you said, it does make you feel good someone liked the cue well enough to steal it.

We make them 'cause we like them. That's all I know.
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues
 
Trent said:
ive made a few cues now mainly for local people and friends and last night was the first time i seen one of my cues in the hands of someone that didnt purchase it from me, my first thought was maybe this guy stole it lol then i remebered that i overreact easily :sorry: anyways i ask the guy about his cue where he got it, how it played and what not and he frigging loves the cue couldnt say ebough about it.
i ended the conversation with ya i built that cue for my buddy so and so how did you get ahold of it??

turns out my friend wound up on hard times and had to let it go at the pool room but he sold it for more than what i gave it to him for:grin:

but my main reason for the post was if you see another person sell one of your cues or trade one or something like that does it ever kinda sit wrong with you, almost make you feel bad (they didnt like my cue:frown:) lol

maybe im the only one
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It doesn't really bother me that one of my cues gets re-sold. I've had two situations where cues were being sold for less than what I felt was "market value". Both by guy's that bought the cues after tax returns only to be broke a month later. I bought those cues back, cleaned them up and sold them again. At the time, I was stressing over my cue being sold at half it's original cost. I've since gotten over that. If someone buys a cue from me and sells it later, I don't think twice about it now. I might pop quiz them find out what they liked or disliked, but what they do with the cue is none of my business.
 
Interesting thread! I am not marketing my cues (the few I have made) but have had offers on them.

I sort of feel as Willee does, in that a lot of 'me' goes into the cues I make. I do the very best I can with what I have to work with. When I get frustrated, I think back to the 'greats' long before me doing more with less, and count my blessings and get back to it.

When/if the day comes that a buyer sells off a cue that I made? I think it would be OK. My philosophy is a bit unconventional, as I make a cue the way I like it to look/play. If someone else likes it; great. If not; oh,well. I'm not inclined to change the way I do things to fill a customer's order, which sounds extremely arrogant; however in order to know the cue I make is the best I can make it, I have to refrain from compromises at all stages of construction. So that crazy inlay pattern may look cool, but if I don't feel comfortable doing it, I won't. If a desired wood is not one I have a working knologe of, I may or may not use it at all in the cue. I am sure others share this to varying degrees, but as a 'hobby' maker I can afford this luxury. I stick to simple, classic/conventional inlay on full splice blanks for the moment (until I get back to making my own blanks) from suppliers like John Davis who I know and trust.

Plus I'm W A Y too slow to do work on demand. I'm a nobody, and nobody is going to wait for a nobody to take 6-12 months to complete a cue. I don't blame them either. So. moving forward, if I complete a cue I feel confident to sell, I will offer it for sale. I won't do cues to order, to avoid any let-downs or dissapointments to those customers. Plus my designs are based on the 59 inch cue, so I may make a couple 58 inch cues specifically to sell, but not made to order.

Look at it this way: to get a 'custom' cue from a maker no longer making cues, you take what you can get. I guess I'm the 'deceased' cue maker still making cues???:confused:

Maybe a backwards way to do 'custom' work; however I think it gives me the freedom to work without the pressure of meeting a deadline. the down side it is also prevents me from ever having a steady income from the endeavor...

I do it because I enjoy it. Once I stop enjoying it, it becomes work...:mad:
 
Normally I really don't care what people do with a it after they get a cue from me. It is theirs to do with as they please. I do hate it when I make something to the customers specs that I don't like and they don't keep it. It gets traded around and no none sticks with it and people think that is the type of cue you make. For instance I built a cue that was super fat for a guy. He actually loved it and played with it until he lost big gambling and swore off of pool. That cue has now been owned by who knows how many people. I now have people wanting to know if I can make them a cue a little thinner than I "normally do". I let them try one of my current cues and they say yeah that is what I want. But how many more never bother to approach me because of that fat cue??
My son built several really thin cues and some love them, but many hated them. Now he has settled in on a little thinner than normal version that a more lot of the people like as his normal cue. But I now have locals asking me to build their cue instead of my son because they think he builds all his cues super thin. Those really out of the norm cues get traded around like hot cakes.
My conclusion was that I probably should not build something I do not want to gain a reputation for building. So I have refused to build cues that I feel are ugly or will not play good. Because I know those cues will draw attention and the customer has every right to sell it. It is just not attention I really want to draw.
 
Well said, Chris.

I have not made many at all, but I feel I make them the way I want them made, so it would potentially avoid the entire situation you are experiencing now.

Customer: I like it but can you make the butt a bit thinner?

Me: No, I'm sorry I won't do that.

Customer: OK I'll take my business elsewhere.

Me: No problem! I recommend maker 'X' and maker 'Z' who may accommodate your request, and they both do excellent work.

Customer: Thanks!

I lost the sale, but MY cue style is always MY cue style. I may change it (for any reason) and that will then be my 'new' cue style, but basically, I'm not inclined to make changes 'on a whim' and I think you Chris have experienced a good reason why we should 'stick to our guns' so to speak.

I do my CueGuru site the same way: I would rather loose a sale, than sell a customer the wrong cue for them. Therefore I don't sell a lot, but I don't have any unhappy customers either...:smile:
 
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