Filler beats Shane 9-0
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Mandatory push after the break. The break will still be an advantage, but everyone would have a fighting chance and it would avoid matches like this one.
vintagecollectibles831
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Holy cow that's dominant. Not sure we've ever seen dominance like that.
Badpenguin
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Shane got to his current dominant position because of winner breaking, now all of the sudden the shoe is on the other foot and folks are complaining, lol.
I like to see winner break and packages, that is supposed to be the essence of 9 ball. Play 10 ball otherwise, which is what they are trying to turn 9 ball into.
One caveat, if someone wins by breaking and running 7 racks, I would like to see the opponent given one opportunity to do the same. But that will never happen.
I can’t say for sure, but if you look at old Accu Stats catalogs, I recall there were instances of Sigel maintaining a ~.900 TPA for an entire tournament in the 80s. Or I could be remembering this totally wrong.
I’d be interested in what Fillers average TPA is for the 9 ball.
Edit: Here it is. Sigel shot a .902 for all of the 1986 SRO. And apparently won it from the loser's bracket at that.
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SVB would do it if it was a race to 120, and he’d wear out Filler just like he did Gorst. Josh is not wired like Shane when it comes to a super long race.
I watched em play Pag 9 ball where he won 9-2, noticed the wing ball go straight in.
You just like a Good Exhibition and that is ok. I prefer a Good Competition. If you are a competitor you want an opportunity to compete something that you are unable to do sitting on a chair.
I saw that too....
seemed like great shape for the 1 ball every time as well.
Matchroom fixed the break rules for 9-ball for a good reason and with good effect.
Apparently DCC isn’t using Matchroom break rules. They are allowing a very wide break box. Which means the cut break can be used to make the wing ball and control the 1-ball. Players at a 820+ FargoRate can turn the game into a triviality when “wing ball” break formats are allowed. Add winner breaks and large packages are commonplace because the game turns into a trick shot break contest.
Watching Josh run out a set in this format is neither surprising nor entertaining to me.
Apparently DCC isn’t using Matchroom break rules. They are allowing a very wide break box. Which means the cut break can be used to make the wing ball and control the 1-ball. Players at a 820+ FargoRate can turn the game into a triviality when “wing ball” break formats are allowed. Add winner breaks and large packages are commonplace because the game turns into a trick shot break contest.
Watching Josh run out a set in this format is neither surprising nor entertaining to me.
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vintagecollectibles831
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When you are playing someone for money, do you play alternating breaks, or do you play winner breaks?
And, would it matter if you were playing them by the game, or doing a race? I bet it would still be Winner breaks.
I guess it makes sense that for 800 and above Fargo players, they should be Alternating breaks, if it is a short race. Because players in that skill level, are very capable of breaking and running out the entire set.
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madmartigan
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Anyone know if the video is available somewhere?
it's weird they have alternate break at the international and winner break at the derby, it should be the other way around imo. they could go back to race to 7 if they had alt break.
skiergd011013
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Lets see filler do that with a normal rack
1 person almost did it, stop with the end of the world everybody is running out the set nonsense.
When was the last time somebody ACTUALLY ran out the set??? It DIDN'T happen yesterday, so when was it???