Finally ! Louie Roberts - Gary Seville Video Uploaded for all to enjoy!

Now that was a great way to kick off my day.

Thanks Cali and all others involved in making this happen. :thumbup: :smile: :thumbup:

Best,
Brian kc
 
Many thanks for posting the video. Man that sure brings back a bunch of memories.

Saw Iranian Bill and the fellow that shows up on the left side of the video once in a while is Dean Higgs a very good 1P player and one of my instructors.

Cant wait to see parts 3-4
 
Louie was down stroking for the break before Seville even had the rack completed. He would smack the rack well before Seville was clear and Gary even dropped the rack a time or two. I would have stopped that crap right off the bat.

If memory serves me correctly, Louie had put on a few pounds by the time I played him. He still moved pretty fast but not as fast as he was during this video.

Thanks Darryl and Cali for putting this together.
 
Intro sets up this vid very well!

Thanks Calired and Darryl for getting this out.
Sound edit made a big difference to me while listening with headphones.
 
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Cali you did a great job on the intro and it looks great! Thanks everyone for the comments but Cali did all the work :smile:

Just to give a little background on Gary. He was one of the best players in the KC area for years with a very smooth stroke. He didn't really play as well as he can on the video. According to Louie in the vid, Gary beat everyone in St. Louis before they called him. Gary still plays every now and then, still as smooth as ever.
 
watchez said:
A few things I notice from the video -

Bill Hendricks - nicest guy you could ever meet. Interested in his book:

http://www.alibris.com/search/books/qwork/7232632/used/William Hendricks' History of billiards

The guy in the red shirt that comes into camera a few times - that was Iranian Billy. He was very good for the pool room. I would estimate that he lost over $150K just playing Ms. PacMan
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Iranian Billy was a great pool hall character.

He wasn't really Iranian, but Palestininan, but somehow got the nick name "The Iranian." He's played with a sneaky pete with a cigarette always hanging from his lips and that cue had more cigarette burns than an ash tray. I played him 1pocket several times and one of his favorite lines -- when you'd past up a long straight in for a safety instead -- was to say in his Mid Eastern accented English, "Chiceeen-hed." But he was such a nice guy and always so cheerful, you just had to laugh.

As Watchez mentioned, Billy lost a ton at Ms Pacman and also at pinball. On one occasion he came bouncing into the pool hall, went up to Darman, who was playing one of the machines, reached over and stuffed a wad of bills into the front pocket of Darman's dress shirt, and said, "Bet it." Darman didn't miss a beat and just nonchalantly nodded his head up and down and simply said, OK." Darmen won the pinball match and Billy just walked away and Darman, for the first time, looked in his shirt pocket and counted up the wad of bills to find close to $3K.

Billy, a chain smoker, eventually came down with lung cancer. He was gone from the pool hall scene for quite a while, but came into the room one night and sat down in a chair right near the table in the video. He did not look good. Billy, a small guy to begin with, had lost weight and was shaking slightly. That night in the pool hall there were a lot of the younger guys around and I think that, while they all knew Billy was sick, they didn't know what to do so they stayed away from him. I sat down next to him for a while as he continued to puff away, seeming to stare straight ahead without really seeing. "So, Billy, how's it going." "Good. Good. They say they cured me." But we both knew it was lie. Billy was dead a few months later. He was such a cheerful guy, always charging into the pool hall at full tilt with a huge broad smile, saying to anyone and everyone, "What'd you want to do?"

I miss him.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Underclocked said:
Louie was down stroking for the break before Seville even had the rack completed. He would smack the rack well before Seville was clear and Gary even dropped the rack a time or two. I would have stopped that crap right off the bat.

If memory serves me correctly, Louie had put on a few pounds by the time I played him. He still moved pretty fast but not as fast as he was during this video.

Thanks Darryl and Cali for putting this together.
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I noticed that too. I have a ritual of placing my cue on the table while racking then picking the cue up as I'm walking along the SIDE of the table. It's the way to go especially when you have testes.
 
lawman888 said:
I believe that as the shooter of the video my father can do with it as he pleases.....he is going to preserve this awesome piece he just wanted to do it himself.....is that wrong?
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I would say Efren and Keith would probably be legally entitled to a cut of the profits and have some rights over that video as well. Did your dad "PAY" Keith and Efren for the ability to record that match? Or was that a priviledge that they bestowed upon your dad out of the kindness of their hearts?

Anyhow, as for the Louie Roberts video it is good that is all sorted out, now Lawman888 can go back to using AZBilliards as his own free of fees cue selling "Ebay" service.

Entitlement, it is the new pink.
 
Thanks for the link. I frequent the pool room where the louie vs gary match took place. It is great to watch louie play, as I never got the chance to see in person. I spoke with an owner of cue and cusion today about the video. It seems that once upon a time they had several copies of the video but never sold them, instead gave them away to customers. The original video was shot by Dean Hicks a customer of the room. Kind of amazing all the upgrades from the original copy to the one CaliRed posted. Thanks Again!
 
jacob said:
Thanks for the link. I frequent the pool room where the louie vs gary match took place. It is great to watch louie play, as I never got the chance to see in person. I spoke with an owner of cue and cusion today about the video. It seems that once upon a time they had several copies of the video but never sold them, instead gave them away to customers. The original video was shot by Dean Hicks a customer of the room. Kind of amazing all the upgrades from the original copy to the one CaliRed posted. Thanks Again!
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Great info ...anyway you could call one more time and ask if anyone knows how this video came to be? What was the idea for it? Thanks. Just trying to add a bigger picture to it.

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Lou - definitely the glory days of pool in St. Louis. I wasn't sure, but is that Dean Higgs with dark hair that comes into the video a few times as well?

My first 'road trip' in pool, I go to Olathe Kansas with Little Ricky and John Kramer. Ricky immediately gets matched up with Larry Mayo Sr in an all night - morning match. Over in the corner table of Shooters, is a young Danny Harriman playing Gary Seville even 9 ball. I spend the time sweating my money on Ricky and being the pool detective that I am, going over to watch the Danny-Gary match. It was winter time and the pool room was a little cold. This is about the time that Danny made a major jump in the pool world, although the world didn't know it yet. Gary was losing and complaining about the temperature in the building. He goes and gets a sweater to put on while playing. Without missing a beat, Danny takes off his shirt and plays out the match topless, really getting into Gary's head. He continues to play flawless and get the money. At one point in the match, Danny plays a 3 rail safe, going off the object ball on the top rail and parking the cue ball underneath a ball by the bottom rail. Gary misses the hit and Danny runs out. Seville takes a bathroom break and with just me and a few others watching, Danny executes the safety shot 3 more times in a row just to show us that he is no fluke.

A few months later, Danny is in St Louis for one of the Star Lite tournaments. He gets matched up with Brian Groce who at this time in his life was a road warrior and midwestern champion. 9 ball, big table, 8 ahead and no one in the building is giving Harriman any chance to win. Well no one but Danny and myself. I try to tell a few friends but they don't believe me. I empty out and less than hour later, Danny got the cash. I can only assume that Groce became a believer as they didn't play a second set.

Ok - enough hijack. Everyone should watch the video. Another 'move' Louie would do while playing is that he would shoot the 9 ball in up table at medium speed and before the ball hit the pocket, he would grab the rack and put it on the table and say 'Rack em'. It was simply polite intimidation.
 
watchez said:
Lou - definitely the glory days of pool in St. Louis. I wasn't sure, but is that Dean Higgs with dark hair that comes into the video a few times as well?

My first 'road trip' in pool, I go to Olathe Kansas with Little Ricky and John Kramer. Ricky immediately gets matched up with Larry Mayo Sr in an all night - morning match. Over in the corner table of Shooters, is a young Danny Harriman playing Gary Seville even 9 ball. I spend the time sweating my money on Ricky and being the pool detective that I am, going over to watch the Danny-Gary match. It was winter time and the pool room was a little cold. This is about the time that Danny made a major jump in the pool world, although the world didn't know it yet. Gary was losing and complaining about the temperature in the building. He goes and gets a sweater to put on while playing. Without missing a beat, Danny takes off his shirt and plays out the match topless, really getting into Gary's head. He continues to play flawless and get the money. At one point in the match, Danny plays a 3 rail safe, going off the object ball on the top rail and parking the cue ball underneath a ball by the bottom rail. Gary misses the hit and Danny runs out. Seville takes a bathroom break and with just me and a few others watching, Danny executes the safety shot 3 more times in a row just to show us that he is no fluke.

A few months later, Danny is in St Louis for one of the Star Lite tournaments. He gets matched up with Brian Groce who at this time in his life was a road warrior and midwestern champion. 9 ball, big table, 8 ahead and no one in the building is giving Harriman any chance to win. Well no one but Danny and myself. I try to tell a few friends but they don't believe me. I empty out and less than hour later, Danny got the cash. I can only assume that Groce became a believer as they didn't play a second set.

Ok - enough hijack. Everyone should watch the video. Another 'move' Louie would do while playing is that he would shoot the 9 ball in up table at medium speed and before the ball hit the pocket, he would grab the rack and put it on the table and say 'Rack em'. It was simply polite intimidation.
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Certainly no hi-jack, appreciate the insight and stories. :smile:
 
risky biz said:
Great video. Thanks to both you and dardusm.

What's with the cartoon interlude at 35:00?
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That seems to be common in these 20 year plus videos . They either start to record over it...or they record the video over the top of a pre-recorded video.

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Thanks for all the replies guys!!! I can't wait to watch this myself. Its great to finally see Louie and get to know him a bit. Watching him helps to put all these stories about him in a new light.

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Celtic said:
I would say Efren and Keith would probably be legally entitled to a cut of the profits and have some rights over that video as well. Did your dad "PAY" Keith and Efren for the ability to record that match? Or was that a priviledge that they bestowed upon your dad out of the kindness of their hearts?

Anyhow, as for the Louie Roberts video it is good that is all sorted out, now Lawman888 can go back to using AZBilliards as his own free of fees cue selling "Ebay" service.

Entitlement, it is the new pink.
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Reading comprehension....it's a wonderful thing:thumbup: i think everyone i have sold a cue too has got a great deal and was happy....sorry i don't take maple leafs for payment:rolleyes: keep living the dream
 
lawman888 said:
Reading comprehension....it's a wonderful thing:thumbup: i think everyone i have sold a cue too has got a great deal and was happy....sorry i don't take maple leafs for payment:rolleyes: keep living the dream
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Lawnman, May I suggest that you stop while you can. Your true colors showed through in your message to Calired. Do you deny the words Cali posted were directly from you? In those words you clearly stated that you had rights to the video. You either don't know how to write what you mean, or you were lying or you were bluffing. Either way you should stop
 
Hungarian Nut said:
Lawnman, May I suggest that you stop while you can. Your true colors showed through in your message to Calired. Do you deny the words Cali posted were directly from you? In those words you clearly stated that you had rights to the video. You either don't know how to write what you mean, or you were lying or you were bluffing. Either way you should stop
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No, again he left out in the part he posted where i state what video. Either way I am done. I am not gonna let people take shots when they don't know what was said or because people don't know what was being talked about because of omitted material. I clearly stated it was NOT the Louie tape but another that was being circulated. I don't care if the whole thing goes on you tube or whatever, I just wanted the one part to not be posted until it is cleaned up, and that's being done my my father. Whats the problem. Some other poster who has never bought a thing here then makes a comment about my selling? Lol, what does that have to do with anything, and why do I have to take the brunt of all this because some person who can't read posted up bits and pieces of a pm I sent them on behalf of my Dad? Any answers? Guess what it's not a big deal, but you people need drama...........Well, my number has been posted multiple times, if you have any questions you can call me instead of running your jibbers on here about worthless things.......good night and stay tuned for some cues for sale:thumbup: I'm gonna go watch curling.
 
Hungarian Nut said:
Lawnman, May I suggest that you stop while you can. Your true colors showed through in your message to Calired. Do you deny the words Cali posted were directly from you? In those words you clearly stated that you had rights to the video. You either don't know how to write what you mean, or you were lying or you were bluffing. Either way you should stop
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Whats worse is the "Efren vs Keith" match was taped by ESPN, AKA ESPN are the right holders to that video, not Lawman888 or his dad, and Lawman's dad has tacked on Keith vs his buddy

Lawman888 said:
My dad didn't film Keith and efren cause that was done by espn. At the end of the tape in question is a player named Rick Garrison, my dads great friend, playing Keith for money. My father videoed it. He absolutely can do with it as pleases
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So buyer beware, if you are marketed a Keith vs Efren match that match is a ESPN production. The only thing Lawman's dad actually has rights to is the stuff "At the end of the tape in question", Keith vs Richard Garrison.

Anyone who gets the tape feel free to post the Keith vs Efren match, ESPN taped that, not Lawman888's dad.

Lawman888 said:
I said that the new Keith and efren video was mine originally
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as stated in post 19 is bullshit, that video was ESPN's originally.

Reading comprehension is not the issue here, piss poor communication skills are, and those communication skills that lack are all Lawman888's.
 
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