Finally ! Louie Roberts - Gary Seville Video Uploaded for all to enjoy!

[JB Cases]

Whats worse is the "Efren vs Keith" match was taped by ESPN, AKA ESPN are the right holders to that video, not Lawman888 or his dad, and Lawman's dad has tacked on Keith vs his buddy



So buyer beware, if you are marketed a Keith vs Efren match that match is a ESPN production. The only thing Lawman's dad actually has rights to is the stuff "At the end of the tape in question", Keith vs Richard Garrison.

Anyone who gets the tape feel free to post the Keith vs Efren match, ESPN taped that, not Lawman888's dad.



as stated in post 19 is bullshit, that video was ESPN's originally.

Reading comprehension is not the issue here, piss poor communication skills are, and those communication skills that lack are all Lawman888's.

Actually this is not true.

ESPN has the rights to the video that THEY made. Anyone else who was also making a video has the rights to the video they made.

Imagine a wedding.

The hired professional photographer retains all rights to the photos he/she takes unless otherwise contractually agreed upon. The photographer has ZERO rights to any of the photos shot by anyone else at the wedding.

Not to be nasty but honestly Celtic, five minutes of reading about copyright law would have given you the correct answer. (yes I am being catty because you are acting like a child in the other thread).

Edit: I am just speaking to the fact of what copyright is. I don't know about the ACTUAL video in question. If it is referring to one that lawman88's father recorded then his father has the rights to that video and not ESPN.

 

[TheCueHunter]

Whats worse is the "Efren vs Keith" match was taped by ESPN, AKA ESPN are the right holders to that video, not Lawman888 or his dad, and Lawman's dad has tacked on Keith vs his buddy



So buyer beware, if you are marketed a Keith vs Efren match that match is a ESPN production. The only thing Lawman's dad actually has rights to is the stuff "At the end of the tape in question", Keith vs Richard Garrison.

Anyone who gets the tape feel free to post the Keith vs Efren match, ESPN taped that, not Lawman888's dad.



as stated in post 19 is bullshit, that video was ESPN's originally.

Reading comprehension is not the issue here, piss poor communication skills are, and those communication skills that lack are all Lawman888's.

Are you people serious LOL, I repeat I AM NOT MARKETING ANYTHING, I DID NOT SAY I ON HE RIGHTS O ANY ESPN MATCH, I don't know what else to say lol, you can't read:thumbup: Anyone can post the espn match on you tube or porn tube or gay tube or whatever they want....your right....I don't care:thumbup: I never said I cared, i never sold one, i never marketed one....I don't get it lol, hopefully someone who can read and understand English will make sense of it...if you can't then I feel sorry for you so all this quoted above is hilarious and you should feel pretty down about yourself. If you have trouble understanding anymore, call and you will get it:thumbup:

 

[TheCueHunter]

Actually this is not true.

ESPN has the rights to the video that THEY made. Anyone else who was also making a video has the rights to the video they made.

Imagine a wedding.

The hired professional photographer retains all rights to the photos he/she takes unless otherwise contractually agreed upon. The photographer has ZERO rights to any of the photos shot by anyone else at the wedding.

Not to be nasty but honestly Celtic, five minutes of reading about copyright law would have given you the correct answer. (yes I am being catty because you are acting like a child in the other thread).

Your known for your reading comprehension and fairness maybe you can reread my posts and, explain to him I am not trying to sell anything, i am not saying or have ever said I own the rights to the espn video, and all i wanted out of this whole thing was to not have ONE SECTION of the video posted on you tube until my father, who did the filming of his very good friend gambling with Keith, got a chance to clean it up and take credit for it.......everyone understand? This is the fifth time I have explained it, yet the next post is Celtic quoting a bunch of things I said and making comments on that frankly make him look ignorant.......I just explained this to my 3 year old and she got it first try:thumbup:

 

[Celtic]

Actually this is not true.

ESPN has the rights to the video that THEY made. Anyone else who was also making a video has the rights to the video they made.

Imagine a wedding.

The hired professional photographer retains all rights to the photos he/she takes unless otherwise contractually agreed upon. The photographer has ZERO rights to any of the photos shot by anyone else at the wedding.

Not to be nasty but honestly Celtic, five minutes of reading about copyright law would have given you the correct answer. (yes I am being catty because you are acting like a child in the other thread).

Actually that is wrong, you cannot for instance take ESPN footage of the Masters at Augusta, edit that actual footage into a different form, and then claim you own that new editted footage. Just like you cannot do some small edits to a movie and then start selling copies of that new version of the movie as your own property. I mean, unless you are in China I guess...

 

[JB Cases]

Actually that is wrong, you cannot for instance take ESPN footage of the Masters at Augusta, edit that actual footage into a different form, and then claim you own that new editted footage. Just like you cannot do some small edits to a movie and then start selling copies of that new version of the movie as your own property. I mean, unless you are in China I guess...

That is correct. What I stated is 100% correct as pertains to copyright law. If the recording in question was copied from a broadcast then certainly it is a derivative work and not allowed.

 

[JB Cases]

If we can get back to the subject for a moment.

CALIRED YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!

Thank you to whoever donated the video. Louie Roberts could FLAT PLAY. And he has all the swagger that people said he does. What a great video. Greg you did great job with it. I bought a copy but I am so glad to have you doing this instead.

We are fortunate that you have have taken so well to this hobby.

 

[$TAKE HOR$E]

all i wanted out of this whole thing was to not have ONE SECTION of the video posted on you tube

So you are saying you dont want any of the video posted on You-Tube or one specific section.....:thumbup:


What does Ken have to say about all this?

 

[Celtic]

If we can get back to the subject for a moment.

CALIRED YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!

Thank you to whoever donated the video. Louie Roberts could FLAT PLAY. And he has all the swagger that people said he does. What a great video. Greg you did great job with it. I bought a copy but I am so glad to have you doing this instead.

We are fortunate that you have have taken so well to this hobby.

See sometimes even me and you agree on things John!

 

["CaliRed".]

Originally Posted by Hungarian Nut
Lawnman, May I suggest that you stop while you can. Your true colors showed through in your message to Calired. Do you deny the words Cali posted were directly from you? In those words you clearly stated that you had rights to the video. You either don't know how to write what you mean, or you were lying or you were bluffing. Either way you should stop

No, again he left out in the part he posted where i state what video. Either way I am done. I am not gonna let people take shots when they don't know what was said or because people don't know what was being talked about because of omitted material. I clearly stated it was NOT the Louie tape but another that was being circulated. I don't care if the whole thing goes on you tube or whatever, I just wanted the one part to not be posted until it is cleaned up, and that's being done my my father. Whats the problem. Some other poster who has never bought a thing here then makes a comment about my selling? Lol, what does that have to do with anything, and why do I have to take the brunt of all this because some person who can't read posted up bits and pieces of a pm I sent them on behalf of my Dad? Any answers? Guess what it's not a big deal, but you people need drama...........Well, my number has been posted multiple times, if you have any questions you can call me instead of running your jibbers on here about worthless things.......good night and stay tuned for some cues for sale:thumbup: I'm gonna go watch curling.

Come on man....there's no call for all this. At least the part that involves me and you and what you wrote to me. I quoted the entire paragraph that you wrote that involves what you said about the tapes.

After you wrote the part I quoted (in its entirety) then you talked about you being married to a attorney, then about Ken4fun, then about me bragging.

Go look at what I quoted about 30 posts in. I replied right after one of your posts so shouldn't be hard to find.

You know you should have the pm you sent me in your Sent box...feel free to show what relevent part I left out when I quoted the entire paragraph you wrote verbatim in the post about 30 posts into thus threshold. Someone else can give a link I'm on a phone now.

So please leave me out of this. What you wrote, I stand behind the fact that it's clear that you appear to be talking about the Louie video based on you sending this to me 45 mins after I posted the video and the fact that I have never even remotely said I was posting any Keith tape and have never even remotely suggested I even have the Keith tape. Which I don't. Your words "as well" indicates that your talking about 1 tape and then another one. Hence the "as well" part.

I also said even though it apparently was not your intention to suggest you were talking about the Louie video, your words made it seem otherwise and that I apologized for the mixup. I then deleted all of what I wrote.

If you still insist that I did not post all relevent parts of your pm...then you post the whole thing or I will.

Go ahead and argue about anything else you care to but stop infering that I am being disceptive

Thanks

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[1shot]

Thanks Greg

Great job
"C.D."

 

["CaliRed".]

No, again he left out in the part he posted where i state what video. Either way I am done. I am not gonna let people take shots when they don't know what was said or because people don't know what was being talked about because of omitted material. I clearly stated it was NOT the Louie tape but another that was being circulated. I don't care if the whole thing goes on you tube or whatever, I just wanted the one part to not be posted until it is cleaned up, and that's being done my my father. Whats the problem. Some other poster who has never bought a thing here then makes a comment about my selling? Lol, what does that have to do with anything, and why do I have to take the brunt of all this because some person who can't read posted up bits and pieces of a pm I sent them on behalf of my Dad? Any answers? Guess what it's not a big deal, but you people need drama...........Well, my number has been posted multiple times, if you have any questions you can call me instead of running your jibbers on here about worthless things.......good night and stay tuned for some cues for sale:thumbup: I'm gonna go watch curling.

............

 

[lfigueroa]

Lou - definitely the glory days of pool in St. Louis. I wasn't sure, but is that Dean Higgs with dark hair that comes into the video a few times as well?/QUOTE]

It looks like Dean, but I can't be 100%. I didn't know him until almost 10 years later and by then his hair was all white and he'd started going generally downhill with his health problems.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Cdryden]

Excellent video!!! I finally got a chance to watch it all this weekend. You did a great job on it and I appreciated the work you put in to make it available to us all. Thanks so much!

Chris

 

[alstl]

A few things I notice from the video -

Bill Hendricks - nicest guy you could ever meet. Interested in his book:

http://www.alibris.com/search/books/qwork/7232632/used/William Hendricks' History of billiards

The guy in the red shirt that comes into camera a few times - that was Iranian Billy. He was very good for the pool room. I would estimate that he lost over $150K just playing Ms. PacMan

Any idea how Bill is doing? I used to see him once in a while at Riverbend in Alton and sometimes at cue & cushion. Somebody told me he quit driving and wasn't going to the pool hall any more.

Great 14.1 player.

 

[stljohnny]

This is excellent! Not to look a gift-horse in the mouth, but any idea when the other 3 parts might be up? I gave green to dardsum, but it says I have to spread it around more before giving to you again, CaliRed. I'll be back on it shortly.

 

[cueandcushion]

Great job of transferring the dvd info. We had a VHS tape that one of our customers just copied onto DVD years ago without the nice introduction on it. Was pretty plain. A lot of those copies floating around STL. We just gave them out to people interested in seeing the famous Louie Roberts. Thank you for the upload! More pool history I wish was uploaded from that time period. Very few people in the industry knew how lucky we were having it in the pool world during those days.

 

[12squared]

I added some pictures at the beginning, along with a post that Watchez wrote about Louie. I like to make things a little more informative, then just throwing up a video. With the additional info I edited into it, people that didn't know him at all, now have a bigger picture of him.:smile:

Love what you add to your videos, keep it up. Nice music too! :thumbup:

Thanks for taking the time to do this for everyone.

Dave

 

[cueandcushion]

Any idea how Bill is doing? I used to see him once in a while at Riverbend in Alton and sometimes at cue & cushion. Somebody told me he quit driving and wasn't going to the pool hall any more.

Great 14.1 player.

Last time Bill came in was earlier this year. He no longer drives because of his eyesight I heard. He had to get a ride from a friend of his last time he came over. He also might have one of the best cue memorabilia collections in the country. He would bring in cues or the old tubes of chalk before they made cubes. Great collection of old billiard balls and equipment. It seriously belongs in a museum with all the knowledge he has.

 

[poolcuemaster]

I have the dvd of Louie and on my player I can't see the 2nd part (not the dvd just the player) so I was wandering if part 2 had been put on vimeo yet and if so where can I find the link.--Leonard

 

["CaliRed".]

Great job of transferring the dvd info. We had a VHS tape that one of our customers just copied onto DVD years ago without the nice introduction on it. Was pretty plain. A lot of those copies floating around STL. We just gave them out to people interested in seeing the famous Louie Roberts. Thank you for the upload! More pool history I wish was uploaded from that time period. Very few people in the industry knew how lucky we were having it in the pool world during those days.

Thank you! Myself, I can't stand to see a video such as this, just tossed on a DVD and you're done. I would like to possibly add something else to the other parts, if anyone could supply me with anything.:smile: I spent several hours searching azb for louie threads, reading every post and downloading any picture. I know there's people out there with more pics! Or maybe a few good stories that they wouldn't mind to be shared on the DVD.

In other words, I'm out of material:frown: So help me out guys! The more I get, the more I can try to put what we have from the days of Louie, so it's forever preserved.

When I'm all done posting all the parts, I will put together a DVD version that maybe I can send out to several people that would make more copies and send those out. We can have a new improved DVD, instead of the plain jane one:smile: I think Louie deserves that, don't you?

As far as the rest, I am right in the middle of moving, so I will certainly have something up this weekend. So if anyone has anything, send it early, this stuff takes time to do:smile:

and thanks to everyone for their comments. I'm glad I could help out