From China, and you won't believe this...
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Varney Cues said:
Why do you care how Valley builds their cues or their weight screws may be off center? They build cheap disposable house cues that's the business they are in. I doubt a pool room will lose any customers because the points on their house cues are not even. Is this really an issue?
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bandido said:
So what? People inside the industry know where things are made. We know which factory they came from and who is doing the buying.
Are you saying that we should accept your unsubstantiated rumor as fact because you say it's true?
I find nothing on the Internet to suggest that there is any kind fo manufacturing in any industry happening at sea. Not a shred of evidence. If you are going to muckrake then at least try to provide some form of proof for your claims. Otherwise I can get the same degree of reliable information from the National Enquirer.
John
No...this is really not an issue. You missed the point. Just thought it was interesting that the cues are actually made (or partly made) on a ship.macguy said:
Edwin...thank you sir for supplying some facts to the issue. I for one will apologize to you for the poor attitude here of some.
KV
John,onepocketchump said:
The manufacturing origin was mentioned as part of another topic that pertained to counterfeiting. Please don't treat my posts as muckracking somebody as none is intended.
And yes I do have associates based in other countries in Asia. But of course, you can treat it as just National Enquirer stuff since it's just business stuff between Asians. I don't know how to explain it to someone not in a 3rd world country. The advanced countries just find most of what happens here absurd based on what they're used to. Peace, John
Edwin Reyes
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bandido said:
Well I suppose it mght come as a surprise to you that I am fairly familiar with a lot of the inner workings of the Asian billiards business. I also know quite a lot about the counterfeiting that goes on in the billiard industry.
Still, in all my time in the industry I have never heard of anyone doing wood processing, or end-of-production work on the ships in transit. Assuming for a moment that it was true would you care to explain how the customs paperwork works out for that? Given that though treaty and international law there are conventional and univeral transport protocols that normally govern the transport of goods and raw materials between nations, I find it hard to concieve of how the paperwork looks for raw materials being converted to finished materials in transit.
Do they just have these floating shops as secret compartments on the ships and bribe all the officials in all the ports? The cost savings must be huge then to undertake that much effort to get around tariffs and duties. Of which there aren't any for pool cues coming into the USA by the way.
John
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Varney Cues said:
You mean that you "think" they are made on a ship. And Edwin did not supply any facts at all. He said, "it's an Asian thing, you wouldn't understand".
To you; it's a logic thing, you wouldn't understand.
John
Not really surprised John. Billiard equipment manufacturing in Asia was concieved in America mainly for the American consumers. The expectation was lower manufacturing cost, faster return of investment and higher profit. How to attain those expectations was for the local manufacturers to figure out.
Varney Cues said:
Mind you, I have no idea what I am talking about and just brain storming, but I could imagine a scenario where they may do something like, not build finished products, but maybe load raw logs on to what could be something like a floating lumber mill and process the logs into lumber that is delivered at the other end for some reason. Maybe to skirt some kinds of trade agreements or tariffs on raw goods, who knows. I met a guy at a trade show who sold bar stools and chairs. We had lunch and he was telling how they did some of the business.
They bought the lumber in Canada and brought it into the U.S. then it was exported to someplace in South America and turned into roughed out furniture and imported back into the U.S. where it was finished and ready to sell. They would go through this whole song and dance just to make barstools so I could imagine almost anything is possible when it comes to moving goods from one country to another trying to skirt all kinds of issues.
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Same process for these http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=35996. Remember when this guy first offered these and wrote about them as Pred blanks until he got correspondence from the mentioned party. I don't know what was wrong with that unless backlash from some sort of deception or omission is being avoided.macguy said:
From your example, other product manufacturers also think of creative ways to cut down on or maximize utilization of production time and capitalization.
unknownpro said:
The problem I have with taxes on imports is they are often manipulated so American companies can have an advantage. I believe imported cars from Japan are taxed around 30%. Which drives the cost of an import car up. If we eliminated this it would force the Big 3 to build better and cheaper cars and with competition it would happen fast.
Also if we eliminated taxes on imports every company in the world would want to do business with the United States.
On top of that if the world decides to not sell us stuff anymore we would be financially ruined since we couldn't tax their goods since they aren't shipping them here. A consumption tax would fit this.
The best Fireworks are made in China 
I like their food.
I would like to hear any theory as to how 1 specific container that has been loaded on to a modern cargo ship might be opened, unloaded, "processed", reloaded, and re-sealed while out to sea. Those containers are the size of a tractor trailer, and are loaded and unloaded with cranes at the docks. Logistically, it would seem to me to be far more trouble and far more expensive than it would be to do all the work in a factory that is designed to make pool cues. If you already have a factory on dry land, why would you want to put one on a ship? And how would you know that you were always going to have your freight on the same ship? Or do they build these factories on all the ships? Or do the cue companies own one ship that they use all the time?
It just doesn't make any sense, logistically or financially.
Steve
It just doesn't make any sense, logistically or financially.
Steve
True Story...from my wife, Morgan Fairchild.
I heard a fact based on a rumour based on a reliable source of a friend of a guy who once saw a pool cue made. He assures me with 100% reliability that all house cues are made by alien hybrids made in Area 51 near Roswell, New Mexico. These hybrids were manufactured using alien dna mixed with Chinese slave labor. This keeps the labor price to zero, since all they eat is sand. They also don't require sleep, so they work 24 hours a day. This will help my pool business beyond imagination since alien cues dont warp for at least 30 days after drunk kids sword fight with them during breaks between 8-Ball games. This lowered the price of my pool cues from $12.00 a piece to $11.95. I am still trying to figure out where I will invest this extra money. Any suggestions?
I heard a fact based on a rumour based on a reliable source of a friend of a guy who once saw a pool cue made. He assures me with 100% reliability that all house cues are made by alien hybrids made in Area 51 near Roswell, New Mexico. These hybrids were manufactured using alien dna mixed with Chinese slave labor. This keeps the labor price to zero, since all they eat is sand. They also don't require sleep, so they work 24 hours a day. This will help my pool business beyond imagination since alien cues dont warp for at least 30 days after drunk kids sword fight with them during breaks between 8-Ball games. This lowered the price of my pool cues from $12.00 a piece to $11.95. I am still trying to figure out where I will invest this extra money. Any suggestions?
cueandcushion said:
Oh come on! EVERYONE knows that Area 51 is in Nevada, not New Mexico!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
I'm not at liberty to discuss all I heard, but you might consider investing all that extra income into the fast food business.cueandcushion said:I am still trying to figure out where I will invest this extra money. Any suggestions?
I have it "from a very reliable source in the industry" that a certain fast food chain is now processing and flame broiling their beef during transit. Yep, it's true
They have a pilot program in effect now in one of the southern states. They round up the beef (on the hoof of course) then herd them into 50' tractor drawn trailers. The moment the steer enters the trailer, it is picked up by a huge mechanical hand. The mechanical hand begins processing the steers into patties and hands it off to another mechanical hand that holds it over a flame until it is fully broiled. From that point the cooked patty is mechanically inserted between a bun, along with the lettuce, tomatoes, & onions.My "very reliable source" couldn't tell me how they handled the special orders, but I'm sure they have that worked out as well.
You may want to consult your financial advisor on this. I'm sure if you hurry you can get in on the ground floor. Lots of $$$ to be made on this one I'm sure.