Gabe Owen Thread Removed? Mod please at least give me your thoughts

Gabe and some others are under U.S. Treasury investigation for running a multi-state gold fraud scam.

It sure sounds like it was more than what he told Jerry Forsyth:

"I spoke with Gabe yesterday. He bought gold coins in a plastic sleeve (which you do not remove or it lowers the value as this is a grading package that shows the numismatic value of the coin) and then re-sold them to a coin store.

The coin store then discovered they were fake. The police are looking for the folks who made the coins. They are not after Gabe at all. Gabe is taking legal action against the TV station and the coin store for defamation of character due to those reports."

Yet, its stated in the news report that "While Powers believes these sellers didn't know they were fakes, he says many people do know what they're doing. In fact, dealers are keeping a watch out for Gabriel G. Owen, who is suspected of selling $10,000 in fake gold and silver coins in Tulsa and $6,000 in Oklahoma City during the week of April 8"

http://www.news9.com/story/22166169/okc-coin-dealer-warns-of-circulating-fake-gold-silver-coins

$16,000 worth of coins to multiple dealers in two different cities, in one week? Why not sell them all in one shot at one place? Hmmmm..... 2nd alternate on a Bonus Ball team must pay pretty good.....
 
It sure sounds like it was more than what he told Jerry Forsyth:

"I spoke with Gabe yesterday. He bought gold coins in a plastic sleeve (which you do not remove or it lowers the value as this is a grading package that shows the numismatic value of the coin) and then re-sold them to a coin store.

The coin store then discovered they were fake. The police are looking for the folks who made the coins. They are not after Gabe at all. Gabe is taking legal action against the TV station and the coin store for defamation of character due to those reports."

Yet, its stated in the news report that "While Powers believes these sellers didn't know they were fakes, he says many people do know what they're doing. In fact, dealers are keeping a watch out for Gabriel G. Owen, who is suspected of selling $10,000 in fake gold and silver coins in Tulsa and $6,000 in Oklahoma City during the week of April 8"

http://www.news9.com/story/22166169/okc-coin-dealer-warns-of-circulating-fake-gold-silver-coins

$16,000 worth of coins to multiple dealers in two different cities, in one week? Why not sell them all in one shot at one place? Hmmmm..... 2nd alternate on a Bonus Ball team must pay pretty good.....

The picture shown of Gabe in that article is pretty bad. He doesn't look much like he did the last time I saw him several years ago.
 
I do in the dark teas but not the lighter ones.

I just bought some new tea that has no caffeine, was going to try it, Throat Coat and Breathe Easy. I thought it might help with the pollen in the air. It's brutal up here right now -- scratchy eyes and closed sinuses. My sinuses feel like they have Scotch tape in them.

I never had allergies when I smoked cigarettes. All this came after I quit with my virgin sinus tissues being subjected to all the toxins in the air.
 
Any dairy product in coffee or tea is an abomination. Straight coffee, straight tea and straight whiskey.

And don't even think about sugar. Yeech!

I agree completely!!

But FB got me thinking about Hawaiian coffee. That's some good stuff!!

KP
 
Beautiful here near Virginia Beach, near 90 & sunny; has been for several days & supposed to be for several more...:)

Hey, Roberta, I briefly lived in a place just up the road from Pungo.
Have you ever visited the Association for Research and Enlightenment (Edgar Cayce)? I have. :smile:
 
on that little note, who likes milk in their tea? not me:)

My girlfriend likes a little italian vinegarette on her pizza. Also puts a little pepperocini juice in her mac'n'cheese - that one's actually pretty good. I'll go for a little milk in my hot coffee or an ice cube, as long as it's not too hot I'll just take it black most of the time.

I like my coffee cold on most days, but those Danes sure drank some good stuff. Came back to the states and wasn't sure if I was drinking coffee or colored water.

It's going to be a rough week. May have to go fishing this weekend.

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I agree completely!!

But FB got me thinking about Hawaiian coffee. That's some good stuff!!

KP


i got the hook up for coffee in hawaii, if you want the connection let me know and i'll let you know just PM me, best $20 you will EVER spend i promos, i met the guy years ago, then 7 years ago i used his coffee in a resteeraunt i owned, this last X-mas we went there to north shore i wasnt sure but sure enough he is still there. mamzing coffee the guy is hardcore into coffee, and its not expensive
 
I just bought some new tea that has no caffeine, was going to try it, Throat Coat and Breathe Easy. I thought it might help with the pollen in the air. It's brutal up here right now -- scratchy eyes and closed sinuses. My sinuses feel like they have Scotch tape in them.

I never had allergies when I smoked cigarettes. All this came after I quit with my virgin sinus tissues being subjected to all the toxins in the air.

I never felt all this pain and soreness before I hung the bottle up. Wife says I didn't feel anything back when I drank. Johnnyt
 
My girlfriend likes a little italian vinegarette on her pizza. Also puts a little pepperocini juice in her mac'n'cheese - that one's actually pretty good. I'll go for a little milk in my hot coffee or an ice cube, as long as it's not too hot I'll just take it black most of the time.

I like my coffee cold on most days, but those Danes sure drank some good stuff. Came back to the states and wasn't sure if I was drinking coffee or colored water.

It's going to be a rough week. May have to go fishing this weekend.

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i cant stand it, its been so cold and rainy here, yuck!!!! i like it black too and not to hot. the pizza i had today had vinaigrette on it, love it.

i love it here but wow the weather this year is horrible, i have some biz pop up in la so im coming back in a couple days for a couple months
 
More coffee straight ...I say.

7 Reasons Why Coffee Is Good For You By Kris Gunnars/ Authority Nutrition

Posted 02.21.2013

Coffee isn’t just warm and energizing, it may also be extremely good for you.

In recent years and decades, scientists have studied the effects of coffee on various aspects of health and their results have been nothing short of amazing.

Here are 7 reasons why coffee may actually be one of the healthiest beverages on the planet.

1. Coffee Can Make You Smarter
Coffee doesn’t just keep you awake, it may literally make you smarter as well.

The active ingredient in coffee is caffeine, which is a stimulant and the most commonly consumed psychoactive substance in the world.

Caffeine’s primary mechanism in the brain is blocking the effects of an inhibitory neurotransmitter called Adenosine.

By blocking the inhibitory effects of Adenosine, caffeine actually increases neuronal firing in the brain and the release of other neurotransmitters like dopamine and norepinephrine (1, 2).

Many controlled trials have examined the effects of caffeine on the brain, demonstrating that caffeine can improve mood, reaction time, memory, vigilance and general cognitive function (3).

Bottom Line: Caffeine potently blocks an inhibitory neurotransmitter in the brain, leading to a net stimulant effect. Controlled trials show that caffeine improves both mood and brain function.



Espresso: Evan Swigart/Wikimedia Commons

2. Coffee Can Help You Burn Fat and Improves Physical Performance
There’s a good reason why you will find caffeine in most commercial fat burning supplements.

Caffeine, partly due to its stimulant effect on the central nervous system, both raises metabolism and increases the oxidation of fatty acids (4, 5, 6).

Caffeine can also improve athletic performance by several mechanisms, including by mobilizing fatty acids from the fat tissues (7, 8).

In two separate meta-analyses, caffeine was found to increase exercise performance by 11-12% on average (9, 10).

Bottom Line: Caffeine raises the metabolic rate and helps to mobilize fatty acids from the fat tissues. It can also enhance physical performance.

3. Coffee May Drastically Lower Your Risk of Type II Diabetes
Type II diabetes is a lifestyle-related disease that has reached epidemic proportions, having increased 10-fold in a few decades and now afflicting about 300 million people.

This disease is characterized by high blood glucose levels due to insulin resistance or an inability to produce insulin.

In observational studies, coffee has been repeatedly associated with a lower risk of diabetes. The reduction in risk ranges from 23% all the way up to 67% (11, 12, 13, 14).

A massive review article looked at 18 studies with a total of 457.922 participants. Each additional cup of coffee per day lowered the risk of diabetes by 7%. The more coffee people drank, the lower their risk (15).

Bottom Line: Drinking coffee is associated with a drastically reduced risk of type II diabetes. People who drink several cups per day are the least likely to become diabetic.

4. Coffee May Lower Your Risk of Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s
Not only can coffee make you smarter in the short term, it may also protect your brain in old age.

Alzheimer’s disease is the most common neurodegenerative disorder in the world and a leading cause of dementia.

In prospective studies, coffee drinkers have up to a 60% lower risk of Alzheimer’s and dementia (16, 17, 18).

Parkinson’s is the second most common neurodegenerative disorder, characterized by death of dopamine-generating neurons in the brain. Coffee may lower the risk of Parkinson’s by 32-60% (19, 20, 21, 22).

Bottom Line Coffee is associated with a much lower risk of dementia and the neurodegenerative disorders Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s.

5. Coffee May be Extremely Good For Your Liver
The liver is a remarkable organ that carries out hundreds of vital functions in the body.

It is very vulnerable to modern insults such as excess consumption of alcohol and fructose.

Cirrhosis is the end stage of liver damage caused by diseases like alcoholism and hepatitis, where liver tissue has been largely replaced by scar tissue.

Multiple studies have shown that coffee can lower the risk of cirrhosis by as much as 80%, the strongest effect for those who drank 4 or more cups per day (23, 24, 25).

Coffee may also lower the risk of liver cancer by around 40% (26, 27).

Bottom Line: Coffee appears to be protective against certain liver disorders, lowering the risk of liver cancer by 40% and cirrhosis by as much as 80%.

6. Coffee May Decrease Your Risk of Dying
Many people still seem to think that coffee is unhealthy.

This isn’t surprising though, since it is very common for conventional wisdom to be at exact odds with what the actual studies say.

In two very large prospective epidemiological studies, drinking coffee was associated with a lower risk of death by all causes (28).

This effect is particularly profound in type II diabetics, one study showing that coffee drinkers had a 30% lower risk of death during a 20 year period (29).

Bottom Line: Coffee consumption has been associated with a lower risk of death in prospective epidemiological studies, especially in type II diabetics.

7. Coffee is Loaded With Nutrients and Antioxidants
Coffee isn’t just black water.

Many of the nutrients in the coffee beans do make it into the final drink, which actually contains a decent amount of vitamins and minerals.

A cup of coffee contains (30):

6% of the RDA for Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B5).
11% of the RDA for Riboflavin (Vitamin B2).
2% of the RDA for Niacin (B3) and Thiamine (B1).
3% of the RDA for Potassium and Manganese.

May not seem like much, but if you drink several cups of coffee per day then this quickly adds up.

But this isn’t all. Coffee also contains a massive amount of antioxidants.

In fact, coffee is the biggest source of antioxidants in the western diet, outranking both fruits and vegetables combined (31, 32, 33).

Bottom Line: Coffee contains a decent amount of several vitamins and minerals. It is also the biggest source of antioxidants in the modern diet.

Take Home Message
Even though coffee in moderate amounts is good for you, drinking way too much of it can still be harmful.

I’d also like to point out that many of the studies above were epidemiological in nature. Such studies can only show association, they can not prove that coffee caused the effects.

To make sure to preserve the health benefits, don’t put sugar or anything nasty in your coffee! If it tends to affect your sleep, then don’t drink it after 2pm.

At the end of the day, it does seem quite clear that coffee is NOT the villain it was made out to be.

If anything, coffee may literally be the healthiest beverage on the planet.
 
I never felt all this pain and soreness before I hung the bottle up. Wife says I didn't feel anything back when I drank. Johnnyt

perhaps i should start drinking, LOL<-------never gonna happen, alcohol makes me sick, i couldnt drink if i wanted to
 
I don't like milk in my tea but I love thai iced tea. I guess that's sweet cream and whatever else they use... it's overwhelmingly sweet at first but not difficult to acquire the taste.
 
Hey, Roberta, I briefly lived in a place just up the road from Pungo.
Have you ever visited the Association for Research and Enlightenment (Edgar Cayce)? I have. :smile:

I'm in Portsmouth which is only about 20 minutes or so from the beach. I haven't visited it yet but I have always wanted to, things just always seem to come up & I really have no excuse since I've lived here my whole life.
 
I don't like milk in my tea but I love thai iced tea. I guess that's sweet cream and whatever else they use... it's overwhelmingly sweet at first but not difficult to acquire the taste.

me2 i dont know what it is exactly but its wonderful
 
Could happen to any of us.

Hmmm, no. "You can't cheat an honest man." WC Fields

Back on topic: the espresso in northern Italy has been depressingly poor. However, the prosciutto, parmigiano, pasta, and wine have more than made up for that :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
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