Gabe Owen vs Sylver Ochoa Saturday

Smorgass Bored said:
I like Gabe too. I ain't bettin on nobody that can't even spell their own name correctly (Silver).

Duog
( I mean.......SHEESH ! what next ) :)

Give him a break Doug. His mama is a school teacher.
 
ironman said:
The time is Saturday at high Noon. The place is Bananas Billiards on San Pedro and Woodlawn in San Antonio Tx. The # there is 210-226-2627.

I think there a coouple of guys already recording this.

I'm going on recored as liking Gabe to win 2 sets. He is going to have to play though. Plus, the table is a tight and tricky gold crown that rollss about like the Mississippi River.

Hey Ironman, Is that the same room my old friend Frank Rodrigues used to own ?
Is any of his family still involved in it ? Just curious, I loved the guy.
Whats the connection that it bears his nick-name ? I'm sure you know Redbird. He has sent me some neat pic's and videos from the old days. I sure made a lot of good friends in Texas. You probably would have been another but I see you are about a generation too young. Lucky dog!

Dick
 
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SJDinPHX said:
Hey Ironman, Is that the same room my old friend Frank Rodrigues used to own ?
Is any of his family still involved in it ? Just curious, I loved the guy.
Whats the connection that it bears his nick-name ? I'm sure you know Redbird. He has sent me some neat pic's and videos from the old days. I sure made a lot of good friends in Texas. You probably would have been another but I see you are about a generation too young. Lucky dog!

Dick

You got it. Frank {Banana's} had no family to leave the place with so he left it with Ida and Julie who have been there since the big flood. They carry on, but, the place misses Bananas who as you know was a pretty darn goodd 1 pocket player. He passed in about 02.

I know Redbird real well.

Another of your old buddies says to tell you hello. Charlie Brown. He is a good friend and a great guy. He still lives in Henderson, up by Tyler and is doing well.

His wife passed on a couple of years ago and though it was very tough on Charlie, he seems to be doing quite well. He speaks of you quite fondly.

Yep I'm 56 years old and getting older every day, but got out early enough to know quite a few of the elders. I'm sure you would recognize me if you saw me. We played some back in the 70's, in Denver at the old Family Fun Center and it didn't take you long to send me packing.

Best regards.
Butch
 
ironman said:
You got it. Frank {Banana's} had no family to leave the place with so he left it with Ida and Julie who have been there since the big flood. They carry on, but, the place misses Bananas who as you know was a pretty darn goodd 1 pocket player. He passed in about 02.

I know Redbird real well.

Another of your old buddies says to tell you hello. Charlie Brown. He is a good friend and a great guy. He still lives in Henderson, up by Tyler and is doing well.

His wife passed on a couple of years ago and though it was very tough on Charlie, he seems to be doing quite well. He speaks of you quite fondly.

Yep I'm 56 years old and getting older every day, but got out early enough to know quite a few of the elders. I'm sure you would recognize me if you saw me. We played some back in the 70's, in Denver at the old Family Fun Center and it didn't take you long to send me packing.

Best regards.
Butch

Thanks for the update Butch. Yes I knew Dorothy (Charlies wife) had passed. She and my wife were email buddies. She was a sweetheart. It's good to hear Charlie is doing O.K. I'll bet he's still King of the calcutta buyers eh. :wink: Will PM you my Ph.# maybe we can chat sometime.

Thanks again,
Dick
 
SJDinPHX said:
Thanks for the update Butch. Yes I knew Dorothy (Charlies wife) had passed. She and my wife were email buddies. She was a sweetheart. It's good to hear Charlie is doing O.K. I'll bet he's still King of the calcutta buyers eh. :wink: Will PM you my Ph.# maybe we can chat sometime.

Thanks again,
Dick

Sounds great
 
Sorry !

Sorry for temporarily hi-jacking this thread. Back on target now.
What happened to my potential bettors ? Charlie Hustle where are you. :confused:

Dick
 
SJDinPHX said:
We're close Charlie. You overlooked a key word. I said MORE than 6 games for Sylver ( you are to smart for me) ;)
How's this sound. I'll take the $100 to $70 you offered, But I say he won't reach 7 games. If he makes it to 6 (and loses) it's a push. Of course he may just win it outright, in which case I would lose for sure.
Gabe is a notoriusly slow starter. :boring2:

Dick

PS obviously we'd be betting on the first set ONLY. Addl. sets would be subject to renegotiation. PayPal next day is perfect.
Thanks, but no thanks. I like Sylver getting to 6, not 7. Ill def bet with you in the future.


Charlie
 
His name is Sylvestre hence the nickname Sylver. He plays some pretty good basketball too. I talked to him on the way up to San Antonio and I told him I was reading the threads and that Gabe was the favorite. He understood perfectly, then he said He was still going to beat him.
 
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I think that in this case if anyone is able to get any odds on SO then thats the correct bet.
I think he is in action more than Gabe. I wonder if that will have any effect.
 
Update

I am not at Bananas, but I am getting reports!

Gabe is up 3-1 and seemingly in control!

Ray
 
usakr said:
I talked to him on the way up to San Antonio and I told him I was reading the threads and that Gabe was the favorite. He understood perfectly, then he said He was still going to beat him.

So, why would you say that?:confused: :confused: :confused: Did you think there was any chance he would turn his car around and head back to the valley? Not only does Sylver play good enough to win a race to 8 against Gabe every so often, he's also smart enough to know that he's got himself a tough game and will have to play his azz off to win. He doesn't need anyone telling him before his match what everyone thinks about the matchup.
 
I told him that because I know he likes to rise up for the challenge. You misunderstood what I said. He is a very good friend of mine. I taught him how to play onepocket. Well let me clarify that. I taught him the rules and the first game of onepocket he played was with me. He was about 15 yrs old. So believe me I was encouriging him and I would really like to see him be the best onepocket player out there.
 
usakr said:
I told him that because I know he likes to rise up for the challenge. You misunderstood what I said. He is a very good friend of mine. I taught him how to play onepocket. Well let me clarify that. I taught him the rules and the first game of onepocket he played was with me. He was about 15 yrs old. So believe me I was encouriging him and I would really like to see him be the best onepocket player out there.

Sylver has a ton of heart and he's always seemed to be a pretty good kid. I like to hear about him getting in action and winning.
 
senor said:
Sylver has a ton of heart and he's always seemed to be a pretty good kid. I like to hear about him getting in action and winning.

Well, It's over with Gabe winning 8-5. It was a great match and at one point tied at 5-5 when Gabe was left on the end rail and found a dead ball which he hit at warp speed. He didn't get out, but he was in control and that shot won the game for him.

After that Sylver really bore down, but executed a couple of errant shots and that was the difference. Sylver shoot so straight, but Gabe came up with some great old fashioned 1-pocket shots and it proved to be the differenc. Just as Jay suggested, that was the big difference. Sylver though plays so smart for such a young man.

It was a great match on a very tough table.
 
Ironman

This is Joe Santos, the writer, producer, and director of "The Pool Hall Master" movie coming out in September. You're right, it was a very long 8 hour match that showed great talent from both players. This game between Gabe and Sylver will be the second DVD that will accompany the movie DVD. This game will be shown in its entirety and will commentated by both players. This will give the players out there, both new to one pocket and experienced players, just what was going on in their thinking while executing these selected shots. Viewers of this DVD will see the strategies and executions of their selected shots. You can now be the judge as to whether that was the winning strategy or not and if you would have made a different selection.

I really enjoyed the match and I'm sure there will be another.
 
This was a really good match as has already been mentioned. I was not able to record it because the footage is being used by "JoeSaints" as a companion disk to his "The Pool Hall Master" movie. Unfortunate for me but understandable. The match will make for a good video when it comes out though, and it was a closer match than the final score showed. I'm looking forward to hearing the player commentary.
 
Poolplaya9 said:
This was a really good match as has already been mentioned. I was not able to record it because the footage is being used by "JoeSaints" as a companion disk to his "The Pool Hall Master" movie. Unfortunate for me but understandable. The match will make for a good video when it comes out though, and it was a closer match than the final score

You are right, this was closer than the score indicates. The killer for Sylver came when he left Gabe on the end rail with the score 5-5- and dhe found that dead 6 ball. Personally, I didn't think it would go, but Gabe wrped that ball in and ran about 4 other balls. Sylver was in one trap after another following that shot.

Sylver faded a lot of the heat Gabe put on him, but at the end it was just more than he could bear. I was surprised at how few times either got out, but, that tough table came into play quite a bit. Gabe couldn't make a short bank to save his back side and had far more oppritunities than he should have. If he makes a couple of those, it may have been over with more quickly. Sylver recognized he was struggling with them though.
 
JoeSaints said:
Ironman

This is Joe Santos, the writer, producer, and director of "The Pool Hall Master" movie coming out in September. You're right, it was a very long 8 hour match that showed great talent from both players. This game between Gabe and Sylver will be the second DVD that will accompany the movie DVD. This game will be shown in its entirety and will commentated by both players. This will give the players out there, both new to one pocket and experienced players, just what was going on in their thinking while executing these selected shots. Viewers of this DVD will see the strategies and executions of their selected shots. You can now be the judge as to whether that was the winning strategy or not and if you would have made a different selection.

I really enjoyed the match and I'm sure there will be another.

Joe, again, you put on one hell of a party and everyone is getting anxious for the finished product. Keep up the good work.
 
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