Gambling etiquette

randallt6

randallt6

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What's the etiquette here. I agreed to play 2 sets with a guy. We played and I won both sets. Only 20 a set. Anyways after he wants to go double or nothing. I say no and he gets all mad... What's the etiquette here. Am I bad action for saying no to double or nothing.?
 
You're going to get varying answers to this because there are staunch believers that one should never quit winner. But you agreed up front to 2 sets so I don't see a problem, especially if it was because you had to go. I also don't feel it is necessary to double the stakes after two sets. Yeah, maybe if the guy is down $100 to you and wants to bump to $40/set. It sounds like you were in a no win situation with this guy. What I mean is my impression is that however mad he was, it sounds like he would have been even more pissed if you beat him the third set and then pulled up.

The problem with never quitting winner is no one would ever get action because how many people are willing to get into what could be an all night session EVERY time they are asked to play?
 
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If you agreed to 2 sets, that's all you are obligated to play. If not, you shouldn't quit winner.

With that said...after 2 sets you should have a decent gauge on his speed & maybe you let a sucker off...or you escaped a trap?!?! How did you do against him?
 
mosconiac said:
If you agreed to 2 sets, that's all you are obligated to play. If not, you shouldn't quit winner.

With that said...after 2 sets you should have a decent gauge on his speed & maybe you let a sucker off...or you escaped a trap?!?! How did you do against him?
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I play with him once and a while. He plays better than and he was spotting me 2 games to 7.he usually wins but I've improved lately and I beat him like 5-3 then 5-3 again playing 8ball then 9 ball. He wanted to play even but I knew if he hit a gear he would beat me. I might play him even in the future but I didn't feel like playing anymore. I gotta wake up for a tournament tomorrow.
 
randallt6 said:
I play with him once and a while. He plays better than and he was spotting me 2 games to 7.he usually wins but I've improved lately and I beat him like 5-3 then 5-3 again playing 8ball then 9 ball. He wanted to play even but I knew if he hit a gear he would beat me. I might play him even in the future but I didn't feel like playing anymore. I gotta wake up for a tournament tomorrow.
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Grats Randall! It's cool seeing people improve and overcome the odds so to speak.

Keep at it! Good luck!

Edit: I agree...you said two sets and you played two sets. Square deal for both players.
 
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You don't have to double the bet or adjust. But you should have offered to keep playing the same way he lost it.

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OUSooner said:
You don't have to double the bet or adjust. But you should have offered to keep playing the same way he lost it.

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I agree! If You lost it at 20 a set, you are going to have to win it back at 20 a set. :)
 
Best thing to do is to tell him before you start the last set, preferably before the first set, that you intend on going home after the second set.

Expect to never get a spot from him ever again. That said, you really didn't do anything wrong if you played what you agreed to. Buy him a beer the next time you see him.
 
Shaky1 said:
I agree! If You lost it at 20 a set, you are going to have to win it back at 20 a set. :)
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I dont gamble much now but when I did I lived by that rule.. I never change the game , ever ,, and I never play even number sets,, so its known up front someone is leaving a winner,, ,, breaking even is kissing your sister ,



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After dropping 50 on a losing horse at the track, you don't ask them to rerun the race in order to change the outcome do you? That is why it is called gambling and not winning.

You agree to a game, or set of games to play knowing you may not end up on the desired end of it.
 
randallt6 said:
What's the etiquette here. I agreed to play 2 sets with a guy. We played and I won both sets. Only 20 a set. Anyways after he wants to go double or nothing. I say no and he gets all mad... What's the etiquette here. Am I bad action for saying no to double or nothing.?
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No your not...but sometimes you gotta say what the he!!.You might of made a bigger score.Btw stay away from the double up guys (unless its a lock)they wont stop at just doing one time if they lose,they will eventually win one.

Mak'em get it back the same way they lost it.
 
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mattb said:
After dropping 50 on a losing horse at the track, you don't ask them to rerun the race in order to change the outcome do you? That is why it is called gambling and not winning.

You agree to a game, or set of games to play knowing you may not end up on the desired end of it.
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:grin-square: I like this.
 
It's not about ettiquette

It's about making some cash right? So why quit if you are up 2 sets, he's playing badly and he is on tilt?

Let him double up for $40, win that at he's down $80. Should he want to play again, let him go another $40.

Problem is that quitting early denies you the opportunity to win big and sours him on playing you agian , killing your action.

If a guy wants to go oiff for hundreds, I am ready to oblige. If he's your buddy maybe it's different. Sounds like he's an adversary, turn him into a customer.
 
randallt6 said:
What's the etiquette here. I agreed to play 2 sets with a guy. We played and I won both sets. Only 20 a set. Anyways after he wants to go double or nothing. I say no and he gets all mad... What's the etiquette here. Am I bad action for saying no to double or nothing.?
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I agreed to play 2 sets with a guy, you said, and that was the agreement. Over, done, now quit a WINNER!
 
If you both agreed to 2 sets then he has no grounds for an argument. If I had the time I would have played him the final set for 40 and told him win or lose that's it.
 
If he is the one that has been beating you a fair bit then he's starting to pay his taxes on earned money. If you clearly (some people don't know what this actually means) stated that you only had time for 2 sets he cant complain. If you worded it lets play a couple of sets and then quit I could see why he would be upset.

Personally I think he's more upset about losing to you because he usually gets the better of you :wink:
 
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sounds fine to me

As long as you were in clear agreement before the first set that you planned to play two sets and quit for the evening I don't see an issue. I can understand the other player being annoyed if you were to play the two sets and then hang around the pool hall another two hours although he still would have no real beef coming.

About betting, I'm not going to bet all a person has lost on one set unless I have a hell of a lock. What I always did was keep a running tally of how far I was ahead and let the other player up the bet slowly enough I was always playing on his money once I got ahead. Nothing nicer than a free roll!

I do consider all the money won or originally bet in play until the session is over so my winnings aren't mine until the session is over. Every full time gambler I ever met saw things differently however and would rathole their winnings in a heartbeat if they found themselves in a tough battle. Smart gamblers know that the money you are using to keep score will buy just as much as the money that was earned on a forty hour a week job.

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I agree with everybody that said if it was pre-arranged for 2 sets, that should be it. But if nothing was said about playing only 2 sets, you should not quit, and he should have to win it back at the same stakes.

I remember one guy at the pool hall that kept losing at double or nothing until he owed thousands when they started playing for only cheap. Not sure if he ever had it to pay though.
 
True, you held up your end of the deal, but here's my thought on this type of situation. If I feel I have the best of the game (which I probably wouldn't be playing otherwise) then I will continue to play. I have seen many people "go off" for a good score when it started out at $20-$40 per set. In this situation, for $20 a set, I would have kept playing. For $100 set and up....see above.
 
2 sets is 2 sets, I see no problem. Considering that agreement, best thing to do is arrange another game with him(for the next day you can both play).
 
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